The GR's were not the first to try winter wheat production in Kansas. Note that the article listed below comes with extensive documentation of the sources of the information. You will note the last reference listed at the end of this email where an extensive study has been made of Mennonite sources and nothing has been found documenting the Mennonite introduction of the winter wheat. They note that there are probably letters in the hands of Mennonite families in Kansas that could add information to this study. ======================================================== Kansas: THE FIRST STEPS IN WINTER WHEAT PRODUCTION, 1855-1870 http://www.skyways.org/orgs/fordco/malin/02.html INTRODUCTION OF HARD RED WINTER WHEAT http://www.skyways.org/orgs/fordco/malin/12.html One story attributed the introduction of hard winter wheat to a colony of French settlers in Marion county prior to 1873. [2] Thus far in connection with this study no contemporary confirmation of this allegation has been encountered. About the same time a hard spring wheat was being raised in Marion county, but no record of a name has been found. [3] The name Crimean was applied to a soft spring wheat imported from Russia and grown in Marion county in 1873. [4] Another type of wheat, called Odessa, was distributed by the United States Department of Agriculture as early as 1865 and one or more strains of this name and general description were found in Kansas as early as 1874 and were planted either as a spring or a winter wheat. [5] In Dickinson county a strain of wheat was introduced by M. Dowling in the late seventies under the name of Bulgarian. [6] A number of Russian wheats were the subjects of experimentation at the Kansas State Agricultural College, the first mentions occurring in 1881 and 1882, The generally accepted story of hard winter wheat attributes the introduction to Mennonite, settlers from Southern Russia in the mid-seventies. The first four of these cases need not be considered further in this connection, but the latter three require careful examination. The extensive Mennonite immigration to the United States and Canada during the seventies came primarily from Southern Russia, but some came from Germany. Thus references are found to Russian sheep, Russian oats, Russian threshers, Russian ovens, and the Mennonites shipped the first flax from Marion county. [19] The strangest aspect of the whole situation is, however, the absence of any reference to Russian wheat during the first years of this migration. According to recent Mennonite historians it was this colony of twenty-four families, of whom Wiebe was one, that is credited with the introduction of Turkey hard winter wheat, each family of whom had brought about a peck of it, planting it in the fall of 1814 and harvesting it in 1875. Such a story of exclusive credit is possible, but scarcely seems to meet the first test of historical criticism, that of reasonableness. It would seem that, if the Wiebe group brought a remarkable new wheat, and no other Mennonites did, he did not realize its significance, not yet being blessed with sufficient wisdom of hindsight. In view of the extensiveness of the migration, it would seem more probable that many families brought wheat with them from Russia. Furthermore, it is probable that more than one variety or strain of Russian wheat was included in the impedimenta of these German Mennonites in their transit to America. There is a story that Turkey wheat was relatively new to the Mennonites and was raised only by those of the Molotschna district, having been introduced by Bernard Warkcntin, Senior, about 1860. If the Mennonites were not the first or the only ones to introduce the hard winter wheat, at any rate, they grew it extensively. At the same time, however, the fact should be recognized that there is no reason to assume that without the Mennonites there would be no hard winter wheat in the Middle Great Plains region. ================================================= 25. R. G. Gaeddert, a member of the staff of the Kansas State Historical society, is making an intensive study from Mennonite sources of their relation to the problem [of when winter wheat was introduced by the Mennonites]. The present author is of the opinion that there must be a substantial volume of contemporary correspondence in the hands of Mennonite families that should clarify the role of that sect in the introductions made by them. Furthermore, only careful studies of the agricultural history of Southeastern Europe during the nineteenth century will give a satisfactory answer to the problems of the distribution of the different varieties of wheats at particular dates pertinent to the several introductions of wheats into the United States.
Hello, fellow GV's: In a recent email, Esther McKinley quoted from a letter, in part, "... Daddy's youngest brother, David, was a deaf-mute ... ". This really hit home for me since my father and all his siblings were congenital deaf-mutes. (Medical science in those days could not come up with an explanation.) They are the sons of Jacob Zeiler, b. 11 Sep 1873, in Saratov. His Gr.Gr.father was Andreas Zeiler who migrated from Marklieker, Germany to Frank Russia in 1766. Jacob's deaf-mute sons were Elmer Zeiler, b. 26 Mar 1903 Walter Heinrich Zeiler, b . 24 Aug 1906 Fredrich Zeiler, b. 12 Nov 1907 Arthur Zeiler, b. 24 May 1911 I am one of three children of Walter H. Zeiler, all of whom have normal hearing as does our only Zeiler cousin. I have 5 children, 12 grandchildren and an 8 month old great-granddaughter -- all of whom have perfectly normal hearing. I have 5 Zeiler nieces and nephews all of whom have normal hearing. My larger question to all the GV's from Frank is this -- are there other cases of children being born deaf-mute? Walter J. Zeiler, Dearborn, MI Esther McKinley <heartlandks@hotmail.com> wrote: I have been looking thru some old letters from my Aunt Clara Louise [Altergott] Caldwell; she passed away this year and I miss her dearly. Here is a letter she wrote October 7, 1995: Dear Esther (and all), As I promised in my last note to you, I will try to give you some insight into what it was like when ---- Daddy's family came to Nebraska when he was just about seven years old. [Note this was 1904] They later came to Colorado, to "Morgan County". Don't know how he and Mom [Amelia Wagner] met, but they were married in Nebraska on September 16, 1916, and lived in the Fort Morgan Area. Amelia, their first-born lived only a day, and then on _____ ___, 1918, Esther (your mother) was born. Two years later, on _____ ____, 1920, Dorothy was born. Daddy's youngest brother, David, was a deaf-mute, and the Sugar Factory helped the family move to Michigan for medical care for Uncle David. At two year intervals, Ruth Amelia Margaret, Alexander David, and I [Clara Louise] were born in Michigan. (I always tease that after Mom and Daddy saw me they said "if they are going to look like her we aren't going to have any more!" Any way, I was the last sibling in the family. Daddy worked in the Steel Mills and in a glass factory in Michigan. Somewhere along the line he began having "lung problems", and was not able to continue a regular every day job. So, he contracted to work for other farmers in the beet fields. This was work that the entire family could be involved with, so we all worked. I guess my biggest, most vivid recollection of that period, was getting up VERY EARLY in the morning, eating a big breakfast, and piling in the family car to head out to work. Mom would pack a big lunch which always included oatmeal-raisin cookies -- and oh were they good!! We did the blocking and thinning, and then in the fall we would be out in the fields doing the blocking and thinning. (I still love lightening, rain, and snow showers because it would mean that we didn't have to go to the beet fields, and didn't have to get up in the middle of the night!) Daddy made sure that we went to school (a one room school house) whenever it wasn't beet working time. I really did enjoy the little one room schools we attended. As Esther and Dorothy grew older, they would work at other jobs in between beets i.e. canning factories, taking care of elderly sick folks, baby sitting, etc. Daddy usually helped the farmer in the fields, so we always seemed to have plenty to eat. He learned harness repair, and shoe cobbling where he could make a little more money. This was about the time high heeled shoes came to be, and daddy was well known for being able to put new heel taps on the high wood heels without breaking them. Women would come for miles around to have him fix their shoes. He also bred German Shepherd dogs for sale, so this helped with money!! During our Michigan interval, Esther and I were always very close. She would "clobber" Alex when he and Ruth would pick on me and wouldn't let me play with them. So, she was my favorite pal. I could always look to her for help and support. At one time she had a job as a nurse for an elderly man, and she "lived away from home". I missed her so badly, but when she came home she had all kinds of stories to share with us -- especially me. One late summer, she and Dorothy were hired by a farmer to cut the tops off from onions. I begged to go too because I wanted to buy a pencil box for school. The farmer paid 3 cents a crate for them, and we worked from early morning until dusk. Dorothy and Esther did very well, and I earned a total of 9 cents -- not quite enough for my pencil box, but the farmer paid me a quarter so I could get one!! One of the things we did in those days was to curl each other's hair! We had kerosene lamps and a curling iron that you would heat in the globe!! There were many burned fingers and ears as we tried to get "prettied-up"! Esther came home from work one time with some lipstick, rouge, and face powder!! She put it on only once, and Daddy sent her to the kitchen to wash it off and threatened her with a beating if she put it on again!! He was very strict, and poor Esther, being the oldest, had to incur his wrath for all of the "new things" we all wanted to experiment with!! We all played out-door games together, but in the house, and in quiet times, Esther and I were almost always together. Ruth and Alex were buddies, and they just didn't want to mess around with me because I was too young! Esther did a lot of "nursing care" during this time. She had a real knack for taking care of the sick, and I guess the wages were adequate. Better than could be made working in the canning factories, etc. So, that is how her interest in nursing came about. I think (but don't know for sure, that both Esther and Dorothy completed the 8th grade in the rural schools, but neither of them went on to Saginaw for high school. There just wasn't enough money for them to live in the "city" and go to school. Mom sewed and embroidered, and crocheted in the evenings all the time. She ad Daddy would go to town and buy yard goods -- enough of the same bolt to make dresses for herself, and all four of us girls!! Bet we were something to see parading down the streets! She also made Daddy's and Alex's shirts, but they had "store bought" trousers!! We all wore cotton slips and bloomers, which were the product of Mom's Singer and her talents. She never bought a pattern of any kind. Hand-me-downs were the order of the day, and we did get good use of any clothing that we had. As the runt of the herd, I even got to wear out all of Alex's outgrown clothes, and OH did I hate those darn BVD's!! Esther, Dorothy and Ruth were all confirmed in the Lutheran Church in Saginaw, and they were very proud of it. We always did go to church, and Grandpa Altergott [David Altergott] was always encouraging us to learn the Bible. In about 1930, when I was just 4, we moved into Saginaw because Daddy's health was declining, and we could no longer work beets. He did work part time in a cobbler shop, and Mom took a job as a housekeeper-cook for a rich family there. Esther worked in the nursing field, and I can't remember what the other girls did. "Little Esther" is this the ind of information you want? Will write more later, if it is. Love always, Clara If anyone has information on the Altergott family who immigrated from Schwed, Russia 1904; David & Alice [Frick] Altergott, Heinrick, Julia, and Dorothy or the George & Anna M. [Soolmeier] Wagner family who immigrated from Frank, Russia please contact me. Thanks, Esther McKinley "God bless you and keep you safe for those who love you." EEM _________________________________________________________________ See what youre getting into before you go there http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_preview_0507 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>From Answers.com - Sugar Industry History in the US One reason that the beet sugar industry was established so slowly in the United States is the large amount of hand labor required in growing beets; because of where beets grew, their growers could not rely on enslaved labor. In the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, the cultivation of sugar beets spread throughout the central and western states from the Great Lakes to California, and in both cane and beet processing, large expensive central mills came to dominate the manufacture of sugar. Four small beet sugar factories were constructed between 1838 and 1856, but all failed. The first successful one was established by E. H. Dyer at Alvarado, California (twentytwo miles east of San Francisco), in 1870 and operated through 1967. The next successful plants were established in Watsonville, California (1888); Grand Island, Nebraska (1890); and Lehi, Utah (1891). By 1910 more beet than cane sugar was produced in the continental United States. In 1920 the output exceeded one million tons, and in 1972 it was about 3.5 million tons, which was more than one-fourth of the sugar consumed in the United States. In the 1970s, some sixty plants were producing beet sugar in eighteen states, with more than one-third of the total factory capacity located in California and Colorado. During the 1930s, studies began on the mechanization of growing and harvesting beets. Since World War II, mechanical devices have replaced much of the handcutting of cane, as machines for planting, cultivating, and harvesting beets-all requiring specialized technological changes-were developed by the beginning of World War II, and their adoption was hastened by shortages of hand labor during the war and by postwar prosperity.
So, the "Schwartzbeeren" you guys have been talking about is not the "Blackberry" that I could buy in any American grocery store, but those little round black berries that grow on the nightshade plant? We had Nightshade growing in our Northern Illinois yard when I was a kid. I always wondered why people said it was poisonous because I ate a lot of the berries when I was a kid with no ill effects. We must have had the non-poisonous variety you have been talking about. We didn't make them into jam, though, as we did with all of the other bush and tree fruits that we grew. They were a weed as far as my father (the child of GV immigrants) was concerned! -----Original Message----- >From: frank jacobs <fjacobs@cox.net> >Sent: Aug 11, 2007 11:21 PM >To: Thelma Mills <thelma.mills@gmail.com>, List <Ger-Volga-L@rootsweb.com> >Cc: ger-volga@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GV] Question on GV crops > >I've always been interested in the ways culture, customs and traditions >disseminate among various >peoples. The Swartzberren , the European black nightshade , as contrasted >with the toxic American nightshade, >was populated all over Ellis County , Kansas between the various VG >colonies. I spent a summer in high school >working for the City of Hays Public works dept, among other things watering >and fertilizing the pubic park trees. >There was alway a prolific crop of swartzberren and volunteer tomatos where >ever the city tended the trees. > >I had a theory where they originated, but just speculation. Perhaps >somebody has a more specific source. > >I sent some Ellis County seeds to a lady on the list in California, whose >family came from Nebraska and originally >from the Paulskoje VG village. She knew the plant well. What caught my >interest was that my Obermonjou >Klaus family was forced to winter over in her ancestoral village when >they first arrived in Russia. > Kuhlberg noted, They arrived at the Volga on Aug 17, 1766, and were >temporarily, until spring >1768, settled in Paulskaja colony. I am not making any claim of >introduction to Kansas of the swartzberren, >only noting that two seperate colonists whose ancestors crossed paths over >200 years ago in Russia picked up > the cultivation of this partricular crop. They had little or no contact >later, and were in different states, with > different religous associations yet had the common cultivation. >Speculation is that they were exposed to the > crop in Russia, either at a common location or in the general region. > >Frank Jacobs > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Thelma Mills" <thelma.mills@gmail.com> >To: "Marven C Weitzel" <marvenw@juno.com> >Cc: <ger-volga@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 9:29 AM >Subject: Re: [GV] Question on GV crops > > >> Hello - on this same subject - where did swatchberra come from? Did our >> people bring them from Russia? I have been trying to find some to eat with >> knebble because I am so hungry for them, but when asking on the radio Swap >> Shop, I never received an answer from anyone. I think the season is just >> about over now. Thelma Mills >> >> >> >> http://www.mariental-louis.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Billings Gazette Billings, MT 12 Aug 2007 HARLOWTON - Larry Schock, husband, father and friend, passed away comfortably in the Lord's arms Aug. 8, 2007, after battling cancer. Larry was born Dec. 20, 1947, in Kulm, N.D. His family moved to Glendive when he was three years old. He spent his years growing up there, always talking about what a wonderful childhood he had. Larry's mother, Edna, had a huge garden, and he loved all the wonderful German food she used to cook. His father, Enoch, used to butcher and make the best sausage. Larry started working at the Jordan Hotel in Glendive when he was 16 and pursued the hotel and motel business. Larry met his love and soul mate, Linda Kinton, in high school. They were married in 1968, having two sons, Todd and Troy, whom he adored. Over the years Larry and Linda managed and owned several motels around Montana, Idaho, and Texas. They loved working together. However, Larry always felt the business in Harlowton was special and stayed there for over 20 years. Larry loved to go fishing (especially at Sutherland) and have coffee with friends. He always said he was a lucky man to have everything he had. Larry was looking forward to retiring, spending the winters at their home in Mesquite, Nev., barbecuing and sitting on the patio drinking coffee and coming to Montana in the summers to see the grandchildren, can pickles with his brother and go fishing with family and friends. Larry loved life. We cannot express enough how much we will miss him - his smile, jokes and loving voice. Larry was so thankful and grateful for all his family and friends that spent time and prayed for him while fighting the cancer. It meant everything to him. Larry is survived by his wife Linda; two sons Todd (Stacy) of Harlowton, Troy of Billings; grandchildren Jessica, Bridger, Shara and Taylor; two brothers LeMar (Marlene) of Glendive, Dennis (Dorothy) of Billings and numerous nieces, nephews and cousins. He is preceded in death by his parents, Enoch and Edna (Buerkle) Schock. A memorial service will be held at 1 p.m. Aug. 18, at the Faith Chapel Church in Harlowton. Perkins Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements.
Greeley Tribune Greeley, Colorado 08-12-2007 Theodore Heiser Nov. 29, 1917-Aug. 11, 2007 Age: 89 Residence: Greeley Tribute: Theodore "Ted" Heiser was born in Orchard to Fred and Katherine (Ebel) Heiser. He attended school until it was necessary for him to work on the ranch. In 1947, he married Alverna "Vern" Hoff in Greeley. Mr. Heiser worked on the ranch in Orchard until 1976, when he and his wife moved to Greeley. He served the United States proudly during World War II with an infantry unit specializing in communications. Mr. Heiser was a rancher nearly all of his life. He was involved in farming for a while but quickly went back to ranching. His hobbies included playing checkers, fishing, traveling and he loved reading and watching Westerns. During the time that his daughter lived in California, he and his wife loved to go deep-sea fishing. Mr. Heiser died Saturday at Life Care Center of Greeley. Survivors: His wife of 60 years, Vern of Greeley; a daughter Sheri Guyette and husband Dean of Greeley; two grandchildren, Kelsey and Brady Guyette, both of Greeley; and a brother Arthur Heiser. Preceded in death by: His son Gary Heiser in 1984, his parents and brothers Bill and Paul Heiser. Services: 2:30 p.m. Tuesday at the Allnutt Funeral Service Macy Chapel. Interment: Linn Grove Cemetery, Greeley. Visitation: 1:30 p.m. to time of services Tuesday. Notes: Memorial gifts may be made to Hospice and Palliative Care of Northern Colorado in care of Allnutt, 702 13th St., Greeley, CO 80631. To read an online obituary, sign the family guestbook and send condolences, go to www.allnutt.com <http://www.allnutt.com>.
Hello Clara, I found your note about your family, who lived in Saginaw MI fascinating as I was born and raised in that town. My entire family-on all sides- emigrated to this area. I attended and was confirmed also at a Lutheran school in Saginaw. I do not recognize the name of Altergott though. My surnames are: Schneider (Reifschneider) Pope (Popp) List Thon Lafever Leese Cindy --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
Hello, I found the latest info posted regarding the sugar beet farming in Sugar City CO fascinating as I have 2 families from that area, the Schneider's (Reifschneider) and the Pope's (Popp). I have a question, I have documentation stating they lived in the village of Pobochnaya prior to coming to the US, however when I looked at the surname lists it states they were at different villages. What does this mean? Thank you! Cindy --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
I've always been interested in the ways culture, customs and traditions disseminate among various peoples. The Swartzberren , the European black nightshade , as contrasted with the toxic American nightshade, was populated all over Ellis County , Kansas between the various VG colonies. I spent a summer in high school working for the City of Hays Public works dept, among other things watering and fertilizing the pubic park trees. There was alway a prolific crop of swartzberren and volunteer tomatos where ever the city tended the trees. I had a theory where they originated, but just speculation. Perhaps somebody has a more specific source. I sent some Ellis County seeds to a lady on the list in California, whose family came from Nebraska and originally from the Paulskoje VG village. She knew the plant well. What caught my interest was that my Obermonjou Klaus family was forced to winter over in her ancestoral village when they first arrived in Russia. Kuhlberg noted, They arrived at the Volga on Aug 17, 1766, and were temporarily, until spring 1768, settled in Paulskaja colony. I am not making any claim of introduction to Kansas of the swartzberren, only noting that two seperate colonists whose ancestors crossed paths over 200 years ago in Russia picked up the cultivation of this partricular crop. They had little or no contact later, and were in different states, with different religous associations yet had the common cultivation. Speculation is that they were exposed to the crop in Russia, either at a common location or in the general region. Frank Jacobs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thelma Mills" <thelma.mills@gmail.com> To: "Marven C Weitzel" <marvenw@juno.com> Cc: <ger-volga@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [GV] Question on GV crops > Hello - on this same subject - where did swatchberra come from? Did our > people bring them from Russia? I have been trying to find some to eat with > knebble because I am so hungry for them, but when asking on the radio Swap > Shop, I never received an answer from anyone. I think the season is just > about over now. Thelma Mills > > > > http://www.mariental-louis.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
That is alson an excellent cookbook from Sam Brungardt. -- Kevin Rupp 2301 Canal Blvd Hays, Ks. 67601 krupp@ruraltel.net www.volgagerman.net volgagerman@ruraltel.net > From: "Reeves-Marquardt, Dona" <dr03@txstate.edu> > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:46:13 -0500 > To: Anna Bartkowski <amb0457@cox.net>, Lauren Brantner <lrbrantner@yahoo.com>, > <ger-volga@rootsweb.com> > Conversation: [GV] Cookbooks > Subject: Re: [GV] Cookbooks > > One of the best is _Sei unser Gast_ put out by the Minneapolis chapter of > AHSGR. I have found none finer. > > Dona > > ________________________________ > > From: ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Anna Bartkowski > Sent: Sat 8/11/2007 6:19 PM > To: 'Lauren Brantner'; ger-volga@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GV] Cookbooks > > > > The North Dakota site lists cookbooks and cookbook reviews in addition to > recipes. The site features color photos of cookbook cover. Here's the > link. > > http://www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/grhc/order/cookbooks/cookbooklist.html > > Of course, my favorite is > Value Meals on the Volga: Sharing our Heritage with New Generations, > because it details my family's GR recipes. My maternal grandparents were > Lutherans from the village of Reinwald. My paternal grandparents were > Catholics from Mariental. Thanks to Allison Thompson of the Sheboygan Press > for her review. > > Anna Dalhaimer Bartkowski > > -----Original Message----- > From: ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Lauren Brantner > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 3:01 PM > To: ger-volga@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GV] Cookbooks > > There is a cookbook Kuche Kochen published by AHSGR that remains today a > best seller in our Chapter book sales. I believe it was compiled in the > 1970's by a lot of cooks who are no longer with us. Check at AHSGR and > you'll find it and at least one other recently published. I also recommend > the North Star Chapter cookbook Sie Unser Gast Sam commented on in his note > earlier. It is also a good seller in our Chapter. I have always wished that > I could find some of the other cookbooks - I know some were published in > Kansas, Nebraska and other locations, but I never had an opportunity to > purchase one. Those on the list who know of others that are still on sale, > please let us know what they are and where to get them. Some church > cookbooks are good - but they are rarely just GR recipes. > > Lauren Brantner > > > --------------------------------- > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, > when. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
One of the best is _Sei unser Gast_ put out by the Minneapolis chapter of AHSGR. I have found none finer. Dona ________________________________ From: ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Anna Bartkowski Sent: Sat 8/11/2007 6:19 PM To: 'Lauren Brantner'; ger-volga@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GV] Cookbooks The North Dakota site lists cookbooks and cookbook reviews in addition to recipes. The site features color photos of cookbook cover. Here's the link. http://www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/grhc/order/cookbooks/cookbooklist.html Of course, my favorite is Value Meals on the Volga: Sharing our Heritage with New Generations, because it details my family's GR recipes. My maternal grandparents were Lutherans from the village of Reinwald. My paternal grandparents were Catholics from Mariental. Thanks to Allison Thompson of the Sheboygan Press for her review. Anna Dalhaimer Bartkowski -----Original Message----- From: ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lauren Brantner Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 3:01 PM To: ger-volga@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GV] Cookbooks There is a cookbook Kuche Kochen published by AHSGR that remains today a best seller in our Chapter book sales. I believe it was compiled in the 1970's by a lot of cooks who are no longer with us. Check at AHSGR and you'll find it and at least one other recently published. I also recommend the North Star Chapter cookbook Sie Unser Gast Sam commented on in his note earlier. It is also a good seller in our Chapter. I have always wished that I could find some of the other cookbooks - I know some were published in Kansas, Nebraska and other locations, but I never had an opportunity to purchase one. Those on the list who know of others that are still on sale, please let us know what they are and where to get them. Some church cookbooks are good - but they are rarely just GR recipes. Lauren Brantner --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Our Sunflwoer Chapter had a cookbook for sale that the local Volga German Centennial Association had compiled for the 100th anniversary. The book was called "Das Essen Unere Leute" The book sold for $20.00 if any one is interested let me know. Shipping would run about $3.00. Kevin -- Kevin Rupp 2301 Canal Blvd Hays, Ks. 67601 krupp@ruraltel.net www.volgagerman.net volgagerman@ruraltel.net > From: Lauren Brantner <lrbrantner@yahoo.com> > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:01:18 -0700 (PDT) > To: <ger-volga@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [GV] Cookbooks > > There is a cookbook Kuche Kochen published by AHSGR that remains today a best > seller in our Chapter book sales. I believe it was compiled in the 1970's by a > lot of cooks who are no longer with us. Check at AHSGR and you'll find it and > at least one other recently published. I also recommend the North Star > Chapter cookbook Sie Unser Gast Sam commented on in his note earlier. It is > also a good seller in our Chapter. I have always wished that I could find > some of the other cookbooks - I know some were published in Kansas, Nebraska > and other locations, but I never had an opportunity to purchase one. Those on > the list who know of others that are still on sale, please let us know what > they are and where to get them. Some church cookbooks are good - but they are > rarely just GR recipes. > > Lauren Brantner > > > --------------------------------- > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, > when. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
If you know the title of the GR cookbooks, you can always search one of the consortiums of used book dealers: Alibris: http://www.alibris.com/ Abebooks: http://www.abebooks.com/ Bookfinder http://www.bookfinder.com Amazon.com http://www.amazon.com Yes, Amazon.com has a lot of used book dealers that sell through their web site. For example they have used copies of Kuche Kochen for as little as $9.98 Gary Martens On 11 Aug 2007 at 15:01, Lauren Brantner wrote: > There is a cookbook Kuche Kochen published by AHSGR that remains today a best seller in our Chapter book sales. I believe it was compiled in the 1970's by a lot of cooks who are no longer with us. Check at AHSGR and you'll find it and at least one other recently published. I also recommend the North Star Chapter cookbook Sie Unser Gast Sam commented on in his note earlier. It is also a good seller in our Chapter. I have always wished that I could find some of the other cookbooks - I know some were published in Kansas, Nebraska and other locations, but I never had an opportunity to purchase one. Those on the list who know of others that are still on sale, please let us know what they are and where to get them. Some church cookbooks are good - but they are rarely just GR recipes. > > Lauren Brantner > > > --------------------------------- > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you, Sherry. I heard from Sam, and will get in touch with him later for some seed. Thelma Mills On 8/11/07, Skc33052@aol.com <Skc33052@aol.com> wrote: > > Thelma, > Sam Brungardt (sam739is@hotmail.com)sent me some of the seeds a couple of > years ago. He included a paper about them. > My Dad always talked about picking them for his Mother and the goodies she > made with them so I was very excited to grow them and make my Dad a pie. > The email address is about two years old so I hope it is good. > Sherry Christie > Delta, CO > > > ************************************** > Get a sneak peek of the > all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://www.mariental-louis.com/
Hello Mary - I am in Kansas on vacation, and will be heading back to Arizona next month. I was just wanting some here around Salina and Abilene, Kansas, so that I could fix me some (I am so hungry for them, and can't seem to hit the area where my brother lives at the right time when they can be picked.) He lives in Goodland, KS. I just want some now to eat - but I would maybe try to grow them in Casa Grande in the winter - I wonder if they would grow there. I would probably have to replant them every winter. Does anyone in Arizona grow these? I will keep you e-mail address and see if I can get some seeds when I get home. Thnaks, Thelm Mills On 8/11/07, Megrasmick@aol.com <Megrasmick@aol.com> wrote: > > I have a yard full of these blackberries! I can give [plants. Mine are in > full bloom now. > Mary > Colorado > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://www.mariental-louis.com/
The North Dakota site lists cookbooks and cookbook reviews in addition to recipes. The site features color photos of cookbook cover. Here's the link. http://www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/grhc/order/cookbooks/cookbooklist.html Of course, my favorite is Value Meals on the Volga: Sharing our Heritage with New Generations, because it details my family's GR recipes. My maternal grandparents were Lutherans from the village of Reinwald. My paternal grandparents were Catholics from Mariental. Thanks to Allison Thompson of the Sheboygan Press for her review. Anna Dalhaimer Bartkowski -----Original Message----- From: ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ger-volga-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lauren Brantner Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 3:01 PM To: ger-volga@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GV] Cookbooks There is a cookbook Kuche Kochen published by AHSGR that remains today a best seller in our Chapter book sales. I believe it was compiled in the 1970's by a lot of cooks who are no longer with us. Check at AHSGR and you'll find it and at least one other recently published. I also recommend the North Star Chapter cookbook Sie Unser Gast Sam commented on in his note earlier. It is also a good seller in our Chapter. I have always wished that I could find some of the other cookbooks - I know some were published in Kansas, Nebraska and other locations, but I never had an opportunity to purchase one. Those on the list who know of others that are still on sale, please let us know what they are and where to get them. Some church cookbooks are good - but they are rarely just GR recipes. Lauren Brantner --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have been looking thru some old letters from my Aunt Clara Louise [Altergott] Caldwell; she passed away this year and I miss her dearly. Here is a letter she wrote October 7, 1995: Dear Esther (and all), As I promised in my last note to you, I will try to give you some insight into what it was like when ---- Daddy's family came to Nebraska when he was just about seven years old. [Note this was 1904] They later came to Colorado, to "Morgan County". Don't know how he and Mom [Amelia Wagner] met, but they were married in Nebraska on September 16, 1916, and lived in the Fort Morgan Area. Amelia, their first-born lived only a day, and then on _____ ___, 1918, Esther (your mother) was born. Two years later, on _____ ____, 1920, Dorothy was born. Daddy's youngest brother, David, was a deaf-mute, and the Sugar Factory helped the family move to Michigan for medical care for Uncle David. At two year intervals, Ruth Amelia Margaret, Alexander David, and I [Clara Louise] were born in Michigan. (I always tease that after Mom and Daddy saw me they said "if they are going to look like her we aren't going to have any more!" Any way, I was the last sibling in the family. Daddy worked in the Steel Mills and in a glass factory in Michigan. Somewhere along the line he began having "lung problems", and was not able to continue a regular every day job. So, he contracted to work for other farmers in the beet fields. This was work that the entire family could be involved with, so we all worked. I guess my biggest, most vivid recollection of that period, was getting up VERY EARLY in the morning, eating a big breakfast, and piling in the family car to head out to work. Mom would pack a big lunch which always included oatmeal-raisin cookies -- and oh were they good!! We did the blocking and thinning, and then in the fall we would be out in the fields doing the blocking and thinning. (I still love lightening, rain, and snow showers because it would mean that we didn't have to go to the beet fields, and didn't have to get up in the middle of the night!) Daddy made sure that we went to school (a one room school house) whenever it wasn't beet working time. I really did enjoy the little one room schools we attended. As Esther and Dorothy grew older, they would work at other jobs in between beets i.e. canning factories, taking care of elderly sick folks, baby sitting, etc. Daddy usually helped the farmer in the fields, so we always seemed to have plenty to eat. He learned harness repair, and shoe cobbling where he could make a little more money. This was about the time high heeled shoes came to be, and daddy was well known for being able to put new heel taps on the high wood heels without breaking them. Women would come for miles around to have him fix their shoes. He also bred German Shepherd dogs for sale, so this helped with money!! During our Michigan interval, Esther and I were always very close. She would "clobber" Alex when he and Ruth would pick on me and wouldn't let me play with them. So, she was my favorite pal. I could always look to her for help and support. At one time she had a job as a nurse for an elderly man, and she "lived away from home". I missed her so badly, but when she came home she had all kinds of stories to share with us -- especially me. One late summer, she and Dorothy were hired by a farmer to cut the tops off from onions. I begged to go too because I wanted to buy a pencil box for school. The farmer paid 3 cents a crate for them, and we worked from early morning until dusk. Dorothy and Esther did very well, and I earned a total of 9 cents -- not quite enough for my pencil box, but the farmer paid me a quarter so I could get one!! One of the things we did in those days was to curl each other's hair! We had kerosene lamps and a curling iron that you would heat in the globe!! There were many burned fingers and ears as we tried to get "prettied-up"! Esther came home from work one time with some lipstick, rouge, and face powder!! She put it on only once, and Daddy sent her to the kitchen to wash it off and threatened her with a beating if she put it on again!! He was very strict, and poor Esther, being the oldest, had to incur his wrath for all of the "new things" we all wanted to experiment with!! We all played out-door games together, but in the house, and in quiet times, Esther and I were almost always together. Ruth and Alex were buddies, and they just didn't want to mess around with me because I was too young! Esther did a lot of "nursing care" during this time. She had a real knack for taking care of the sick, and I guess the wages were adequate. Better than could be made working in the canning factories, etc. So, that is how her interest in nursing came about. I think (but don't know for sure, that both Esther and Dorothy completed the 8th grade in the rural schools, but neither of them went on to Saginaw for high school. There just wasn't enough money for them to live in the "city" and go to school. Mom sewed and embroidered, and crocheted in the evenings all the time. She ad Daddy would go to town and buy yard goods -- enough of the same bolt to make dresses for herself, and all four of us girls!! Bet we were something to see parading down the streets! She also made Daddy's and Alex's shirts, but they had "store bought" trousers!! We all wore cotton slips and bloomers, which were the product of Mom's Singer and her talents. She never bought a pattern of any kind. Hand-me-downs were the order of the day, and we did get good use of any clothing that we had. As the runt of the herd, I even got to wear out all of Alex's outgrown clothes, and OH did I hate those darn BVD's!! Esther, Dorothy and Ruth were all confirmed in the Lutheran Church in Saginaw, and they were very proud of it. We always did go to church, and Grandpa Altergott [David Altergott] was always encouraging us to learn the Bible. In about 1930, when I was just 4, we moved into Saginaw because Daddy's health was declining, and we could no longer work beets. He did work part time in a cobbler shop, and Mom took a job as a housekeeper-cook for a rich family there. Esther worked in the nursing field, and I can't remember what the other girls did. "Little Esther" is this the ind of information you want? Will write more later, if it is. Love always, Clara If anyone has information on the Altergott family who immigrated from Schwed, Russia 1904; David & Alice [Frick] Altergott, Heinrick, Julia, and Dorothy or the George & Anna M. [Soolmeier] Wagner family who immigrated from Frank, Russia please contact me. Thanks, Esther McKinley "God bless you and keep you safe for those who love you." 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I've been reading the posts about sugar beet farming with interest. Those who are interested in learning more about the kind of hardships endured by the GR immigrants in the beet fields of Kansas, Colorado, Wyoming and Montana should read the book Second Hoeing by Hope Williams Sykes (ISBN 0-8032-9129-9). It is available through AHSGR. It is a novel about the trials of a GR family on a sugar beet farm in Colorado. According to the back cover "Hope Williams Sykes (1901-73) devoted the greater part of her writing career to the portrayal of German-Russian immigrants. ------" I sent this book to my aunt to read a couple of years ago. After reading it, her comment was "Oh that brought back so many memories-----". She didn't go into detail and I don't think they were very good memories. My grandparents (Conrad Lofing/Lofink - Norka and Elizabeth Busch - Dietel) worked on sugar beet farms first in the Garden City Kansas, Sugar City Colorado area and then in Park City Montana. My father and uncles quite school after the eighth grade because they had to work sugar beet harvest which could run into early November in Montana depending on the weather. Larry Lofing
In "Members of Holy Cross Parish - A genealogy of the Parishioners of Pfeifer, Kansas 1876 - 1993", Michael Jacobs' nickname is listed as "Oddels Michel". Is this German for "the other Michael"? -- Have a great day :-) Sharon McGinness smcginness1@cox.net ---- frank jacobs <fjacobs@cox.net> wrote: ============= As Michael Jacob was trying to bring his family to Topeka, Ks in 1878, at Bremen his ship was diverted without prior notice to Argentina, without the knowledge or agreement of captive passengers. After eight years and assisting in the founding of San Francisco (Pfeifer), Entre Rios, Argentina, Michael and his family worked their way back toward kinsmen in Pfeifer, Kansas, where they were known as "the other Michael Jacobs family". After several years of largely unsuccessful struggle as a farmer, Michael set out some 180 miles on foot, to find assistance from relatives in St Mary, Kansas. There they worked for 11 cents per hour for the railroad. (Today, most cash registers in stores have a small container to collect unwanted pennies left over after tax, available for the next customer who wanted them for the odd sales tax on their purchases. What trivial trinkets struggled for with much pain in bygone eras!) I have the obituary of Michael's brother Joseph Jacobs and a property plat map of Joseph's farm which I found at the Kansas Historical Society. I also have pictures of their village and cemetery in Argentina, if you want me to mail them to you. I talk to Michael's grandson , Raymond and Eva Jacobs in Denver. They are getting quite old. Frank Jacobs ----- Original Message ----- From: <smcginness1@cox.net> To: <GER-VOLGA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: [GV] Surnames Heim & Schmidt, Village of Pfeifer > My great-grandmother was Magdalena (Heim) Jacob; her parents were Simon > Heim and Klara Schmidt. All I know about them is that they lived in > Pfeifer, Russia. Can anyone help me out here? > -- > Have a great day :-) > > Sharon McGinness > smcginness1@cox.net
There is a cookbook Kuche Kochen published by AHSGR that remains today a best seller in our Chapter book sales. I believe it was compiled in the 1970's by a lot of cooks who are no longer with us. Check at AHSGR and you'll find it and at least one other recently published. I also recommend the North Star Chapter cookbook Sie Unser Gast Sam commented on in his note earlier. It is also a good seller in our Chapter. I have always wished that I could find some of the other cookbooks - I know some were published in Kansas, Nebraska and other locations, but I never had an opportunity to purchase one. Those on the list who know of others that are still on sale, please let us know what they are and where to get them. Some church cookbooks are good - but they are rarely just GR recipes. Lauren Brantner --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.