Billings Gazette Billings, MT 15 Aug 2007 Darlene (Frank) Vinecke went home to be with the Lord on Tuesday, Aug. 14, 2007, after a courageous battle with ovarian cancer. Darlene was born on Nov. 9, 1937, in Hardin. She was the first of seven children born to Alexander and Helen (Herman) Frank. As a child, she lived in Spokane, Wash., and then Tillamook, Ore., and later settled in California. Darlene married Keith W. Vinecke, Feb. 25, 1956, in Palo Alto, Calif. Darlene returned to Billings with her husband and children in 1973. She and her family also lived in Lolo and in Great Falls, where she worked at the Eagle Mount Retirement Home as a food service supervisor. Darlene previously worked in the San Jose School District lunch program and then later worked in the Billings area school lunch program. She was an active member of the Shiloh United Methodist Church, in which she served as chairperson on the "Worship Environmental Committee." She was also involved in the Outreach Shelter Program, as well as many other church and community functions. Darlene was a gifted artist, and she loved crafting, home decorating and working in her yard. Darlene loved the Lord and started her day meditating in the Word. She cherished her Bible and devotionals. She was loved by many friends and family and she will be greatly missed, but always remembered for her sense of humor and loving spirit. Darlene was preceded in death by her brother, Ruben Frank; her father, Alexander Frank; and by her husband, Keith Vinecke. Survivors include her mother, Helen Frank; brothers, Alex Frank, Ken Frank and David Frank; sisters, Vondalee Frank and Cathy Frank; and her children, Mark Vinecke, James Vinecke and Marjorie (Vinecke) Rudio and husband Roger Rudio. Darlene has seven grandchildren and eight great-grandchildren. Funeral services will be held 10 a.m. Friday, Aug. 17, at Shiloh United Methodist Church, 1810 Shiloh Road. Interment will follow at Sunset Memorial Gardens. Smith's West Chapel is in charge of arrangements.

Billings Gazette Billings, MT 15 Aug 2007 LAUREL - On Aug. 12, 2007, Edward Kindsfater went to be with the Lord in the arms of his family, due to natural causes. Ed was born Dec. 18, 1914, the middle child of Andrew and Margaret (Bott) Kindsfater of Rocky Ford, Colo. The family later moved to Laurel, where he married the love of his life, Martha Kehm, on Dec. 7, 1940. Together, they raised three daughters. Ed went to work on the Northern Pacific Railway in 1944 and retired in 1974 with the Burlington Northern. His retirement days were spent fishing and riding his bike, but most of all, spending time with his grandchildren whom he loved so much. Ed is survived by his wife, Martha of Laurel; his children, Jane Crawford of Portland, Ore., Elaine (Phil) Nichols of Lake Havasu City, Ariz., and Nancy (Jay) Edwards of Laurel; brother Herb (Betty) Kindsfater of Laurel; grandchildren Scott, Quinn, Travis, Jeff, Chad, Ecko, Joseph, Maggie, Britni and Eric; great-grandchildren Carsyn, Dylan, Emmalyn, Rose-Marie; as well as several nieces and a nephew. Mr. Kindsfater was preceded in death by his parents and siblings Marie, Alex, Bill and Peggy. Visitation will be Wednesday, Aug. 15, from 5 to 9 p.m., at the Remington Letcher Memorial Chapel of Laurel, 420 19th Ave. West. Funeral services will be 2 p.m. Thursday, Aug. 16, at the St. Johns Evangelical Lutheran Church, 417 W. Ninth St. Memorials in his name may be made to Big Sky Hospice or St. John's Lutheran Church. Condolences may be shared with the family by visiting www.remingtonletcherfuneralservices.com.

Hello to all: I am trying to help a friend locate information on her husband's ggrandfather. He was born 1823 in Baden Baden, Germany. pledged Allegiance here on 9/22/1856. We do not know the location, nor when he came over from germany. Need some advice on this one, as I'm not sure if he came directly here from Germany or if he came via Russia. He settled in Western Missouri, then on to Kansas. Thanks for any help. Thelma Mills -- http://www.mariental-louis.com/

Billings Gazette Billings, MT 15 Aug 2007 Natalie Kaiser, age 92, went to be with her Lord on Aug. 13, 2007. She was born Dec. 30, 1914, in Portland, Ore., to John II and Elizabeth Brug. Shortly afterward, her family moved to the Sheridan, Wyo., area. She went to school in Ranchester and Clearmont, Wyo. Natalie met Harry Kaiser and they were married Jan. 1, 1939. They lived and farmed in several different places in the Sheridan area until 1966, mostly raising sugar beets. Their children, Ron and Karen, were born in Sheridan. Natalie and Harry moved to Miles City in 1966 and lived there until 1987. In 1987, they moved to Billings. Both of them were very active volunteers all their lives in their church and community activities and they got a lot of enjoyment from that. Natalie and Harry enjoyed dancing and Natalie loved to sew and raise big gardens. She was a lifelong member of the Lutheran church and she took comfort in her Savior. Natalie was preceded in death by her husband, Harry; her parents, John II and Elizabeth Brug; her brother, John Brug III; and her sister, Lillian Pabst. She is survived by her son, Ron Kaiser of Billings; daughter, Karen (Budd) Weamer of Forsyth; her grandchildren, Russ (Michelle) Kaiser of Bozeman and Heidi Johnson of Worden; great-grandchildren, Leah Johnson, Rachael, Matthew and Jessica Kaiser; and her sister, Helen Hasson of Pennsylvania. A funeral service will be held at 2 p.m. on Friday, Aug. 17, at Mount Olive Lutheran Church in Billings, with burial at the Terrace Gardens Cemetery. Visitations may be made at the church prior to the funeral. Memorials are suggested to Mount Olive Lutheran Church or a charity of choice. Smith West Chapel is assisting with arrangements.

Hello, I was wondering, does anyone know or have infomation on Conrad Burbach, Born: 18 Jan 1864 Norka , Russia, and/or his wife Elizabeth Green, Born: Feb. 14, 1864 Norka, Russia? They are my great Grandparents. I don't even know if I am sending this to the right address so everyone can see this on the roots web subscribe list? Could someone help me? Would appreciate a reply. Thanks, Sally, Marieliz@citlink.net

An observation. You will note that the first child of Peter Wittmann and Katherine Beil that was born in Victoria KS is Heinrich. His baptism record states that he was baptized in Herzog/Victoria 24 Oct 1888. This indicates that the family came to the U.S. between 1886 and 1888 I have church marriage records for Herzog only to 1900. Thanks to Frank Windholz who did great genealogical research work in Ellis County, Rosemary Larson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Rupp" <krupp@ruraltel.net> To: <smcginness1@cox.net>; <GER-VOLGA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [GV] Wittman Family Here you go! Name: Peter Wittmann1 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Birth: 5 Nov 1856 Rohleder (Raskaty), Russia1,2 Movement: 1859 Moved to to the colony of Liebental, Russia Death: 3 Apr 19361 Immigration: Went to America.2 Father: Heinrich Wittmann (1824-) Mother: Elisabeth Stressler (1822-1890) Marriage: 15 Jul 1875 Liebental (Lubonirovka), Russia2 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Spouse: Katherine Beil <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Birth: 18541 Death: 25 Jul 19241 Father: Peter Beil (1819-1919) Mother: Elizabeth Storm (1821-1919) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Children <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 1 F: Emerciana Wittman2 Birth: 11 Aug 1875 Liebental (Lubonirovka), Russia2 Death: 25 May 1876 Liebental (Lubonirovka), Russia2 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 2 F: Carolina Wittman2 Birth: 16 Mar 1877 Liebental (Lubonirovka), Russia2 Death: 11 May 1881 Liebental (Lubonirovka), Russia2 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 3 F: Anna Wittman2 Birth: 19 Apr 1880 Liebental (Lubonirovka), Russia2 Immigration: Went to America.2 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 4 M: Johannes Wittman2 Birth: 2 Jul 1882 Liebental (Lubonirovka), Russia2 Immigration: Went to America.2 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 5 F: Elisabeth Wittman2 Birth: 1 Jul 1884 Liebental (Lubonirovka), Russia2 Death: 15 Mar 1886 Liebental (Lubonirovka), Russia2 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 6 M: Peter Michael Wittman1,2 Birth: 24 Oct 1886 Liebental (Lubonirovka), Russia2 Death: 6 Oct 1964 Garden City, Kansas Spouse: Elizabeth Schaffer <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 7 M: Heinrich Wittmann2 Birth: 23 Oct 1889 Victoria, Kansas2 Death: 28 Aug 1969 Garden City, Kansas2 Spouse: Anna Brendl <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 8 M: Johannes Wittmann2 Birth: 19 Oct 18912 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 9 M: Joseph Wittman1 Birth: Jul 18932 Death: 19542 Spouse: Apolonia Schaffer <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 10 F: Mary Wittman1 Birth: Mar 1894 Buena Vista, Colorado2 Death: 22 Jun 1973 Garden City, Kansas2 Spouse: Simon Kessler Spouse: Anton Lauber <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 11 M: Conrad Wittman1 Birth: Oct 18962 Spouse: Violet Davis <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 12 F: Katharina Wittmann2 Birth: Jan 18982 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 13 M: Abraham Wittmann2 Birth: Mar 18992 Spouse: Anna Catharine Pfeifer Sources 1. Frank J. Windholz - 1984, Parishioners of The BVM of the Assumption Church 1895-1936 Marianthal, Kansas. 2. 1874 Liebental, Russia : Register Die Gemeinde Von Liebental, Russia, Pavel M. Leus & Anthony J. Leiker, Anthony J. Leiker, 2000. Liebental, Russia 1874 Village Church Records:Compiled by Pavel Leus <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Last Modified: 11 Aug 2007 Created: 11 Aug 2007 -- Kevin Rupp 2301 Canal Blvd Hays, Ks. 67601 krupp@ruraltel.net www.volgagerman.net volgagerman@ruraltel.net > From: <smcginness1@cox.net> > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 0:54:51 -0500 > To: <GER-VOLGA@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [GV] Wittman Family > > I am trying to find info re: Peter and Catherine (nee Biel) Wittman. I > don't > know what village they came from in Russia. This is what I do know about > them: > > Peter was born in Russia abt. 1853 & died in Leoti, KS on 3 Apr 1936. He > is > buried in an unmarked grave in the Marienthal cemetery. > > Catherine was born in Russia 4 Jul 1855. She died 25 Jul 1924 in Leoti, > KS & > is also buried in an unmarked grave in the Marienthal cemetery. Her > parents > were Jakob Biel and Maria Storm. > > Peter & Catherine came to Victoria, KS on 3 Aug 1876, along with their > daughter, Anna (my great-grandmother). Anna was born 19 Apr 1879 in > Russia. > She married John Schupman (alt. sp. Schuckman) on 24 Sep 1904. She died > 25 > Nov 1947 in LaCrosse, KS. > > Peter & Catherine's other children, from what I have gleaned from U.S. > Federal > Census records, were: > > Peter, b. abt. 1886 > Heinrich, b. 23 Oct 1888 > John, b. abt. 1890 > Joseph, b. 28 Jul 1892 > Maria, b. abt. 1893 > Conrad, b. abt. 1895 > Katherine, b. abt. 1898 > Abraham, b. abt 1899 > > > -- > Have a great day :-) > > Sharon McGinness > smcginness1@cox.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Paula, Did you look through the PDF I just sent you on the Wittmann family? Johann Wittmann born 1835 came to the US on the S.S. Mosel on July 29, 1876. Look though the PDF I sent and I have it marked which children came on that ship. In the book, Migration from the Russian Empire Vol. 1 Jan 1975 - Sept 1882 they list the families of Wittmann. Johannes Mother, Catherine born 1814 also came to the U.S with this family. The book also lists a Peter age 37, wife Catharine age 35 and children Anna age 8, and Joseph age 1. Peter was the brother to Johannes. Hope this helps. Look through the attachment I sent you and if you have any questions please let me know. Kevin -- Kevin Rupp 2301 Canal Blvd Hays, Ks. 67601 krupp@ruraltel.net www.volgagerman.net volgagerman@ruraltel.net www.germansfromrussia.net > From: Paula Nevin <Pnevin@pld.com> > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:23:06 -0500 > To: <Ger-Volga-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [GV] Wittman Family > > I don't know anything about Anna except she was born April 19, 1880. I know > there was a family in Garden City, KS named Paul Schupman and I always knew > we were distantly related through the Wittmans but never really knew how > until now. So I will have to do a little more work on that side of it. My > mom is still very sharp on all these folks even though she is nearly 90 and > I'll visit with her tomorrow and see what I can find out about the Schupman > connection. I can't send the pictures tonight becaue I can't get my scanner > to work but my son will take a look at it tomorrow and I'll try tomorrow > night. > > My thoughts on where Peter Wittman(born 1855 - I'll put his birth year in > to seperate him from all the other Peters) and Catharina Biel are from, > come in part from the 1857 census from Liebenthal Russia which we have > thanks to Kevin, Tony Leiker and Tony's cousin Pavel Leus. Both the Biel > and Wittman families were living there when the census was taken. Katharine > (all spellings from book) was born to Peter Beil and Elisabeth in 1854 in > Graf. Peter was born to Heinrich and Elisabeth in 1855 in Rohleder. Since > Liebenthal was a daughter colony founded about 1857, both families probably > moved there shortly after the children were born. > > According to "Liebental, Russia a Genealogy of the Village" compiled by > Tony Lieker, Katharine Biel and Peter Wittman were married there July 15, > 1875. > > I don't know if they were still living in Liebenthal when they immigrated > or not. My interest is peaked now and I can see I will be pulling out the > old files and doing a little more on this family. > > Kevin, my question on this family - did they really come on the Mosel. If > so are they the ones Rev. Laing referred to. If not when and how did they > come. > > That's enough for tonight. > > Paula > > > > > > At 10:26 PM 8/14/2007 -0500, you wrote: >> Do you know what village in Russia the Wittman's came from? Also, since >> Peter & Catherine Biel Wittman settled in Victoria when they arrived in >> the U.S., were Anna Wittman & John Schupman married in St. Fidelis Church? >> >> Sharon McGinness >> smcginness1@cox.net >> >> >> ---- Kevin Rupp <krupp@ruraltel.net> wrote: >> >> ============= >> HI Paula, >> >> What exactly are you needing on your family, I may have something for you. >> >> Kevin >> >> >> -- >> >> Kevin Rupp >> 2301 Canal Blvd >> Hays, Ks. 67601 >> krupp@ruraltel.net >> www.volgagerman.net >> volgagerman@ruraltel.net >> www.germansfromrussia.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> From: Paula Nevin <Pnevin@pld.com> >>> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:14:44 -0500 >>> To: <smcginness1@cox.net>, <Ger-Volga-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Subject: Re: [GV] Wittman Family >>> >>> Sharon, I'll scan them shortly and try to emailed them to you with a little >>> more information on the rest of the family. >>> Paula >>> >>> >>> At 09:09 AM 8/14/2007 -0500, you wrote: >>>> I am definitely interested in any information you have about Peter & >>>> Catherine Wittman. I would also love to have copies of the pictures you >>>> have of them. If you can scan & email them that would be great, otherwise >>>> if you could have reprints made I would gladly reimburse you for any >>>> expense... >>>> >>>> Sharon McGinness >>>> smcginness1@cox.net >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day :-) >> >> Sharon McGinness >> smcginness1@cox.net >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know anything about Anna except she was born April 19, 1880. I know there was a family in Garden City, KS named Paul Schupman and I always knew we were distantly related through the Wittmans but never really knew how until now. So I will have to do a little more work on that side of it. My mom is still very sharp on all these folks even though she is nearly 90 and I'll visit with her tomorrow and see what I can find out about the Schupman connection. I can't send the pictures tonight becaue I can't get my scanner to work but my son will take a look at it tomorrow and I'll try tomorrow night. My thoughts on where Peter Wittman(born 1855 - I'll put his birth year in to seperate him from all the other Peters) and Catharina Biel are from, come in part from the 1857 census from Liebenthal Russia which we have thanks to Kevin, Tony Leiker and Tony's cousin Pavel Leus. Both the Biel and Wittman families were living there when the census was taken. Katharine (all spellings from book) was born to Peter Beil and Elisabeth in 1854 in Graf. Peter was born to Heinrich and Elisabeth in 1855 in Rohleder. Since Liebenthal was a daughter colony founded about 1857, both families probably moved there shortly after the children were born. According to "Liebental, Russia a Genealogy of the Village" compiled by Tony Lieker, Katharine Biel and Peter Wittman were married there July 15, 1875. I don't know if they were still living in Liebenthal when they immigrated or not. My interest is peaked now and I can see I will be pulling out the old files and doing a little more on this family. Kevin, my question on this family - did they really come on the Mosel. If so are they the ones Rev. Laing referred to. If not when and how did they come. That's enough for tonight. Paula At 10:26 PM 8/14/2007 -0500, you wrote: >Do you know what village in Russia the Wittman's came from? Also, since >Peter & Catherine Biel Wittman settled in Victoria when they arrived in >the U.S., were Anna Wittman & John Schupman married in St. Fidelis Church? > >Sharon McGinness >smcginness1@cox.net > > >---- Kevin Rupp <krupp@ruraltel.net> wrote: > >============= >HI Paula, > >What exactly are you needing on your family, I may have something for you. > >Kevin > > >-- > >Kevin Rupp >2301 Canal Blvd >Hays, Ks. 67601 >krupp@ruraltel.net >www.volgagerman.net >volgagerman@ruraltel.net >www.germansfromrussia.net > > > > > > > > > > From: Paula Nevin <Pnevin@pld.com> > > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:14:44 -0500 > > To: <smcginness1@cox.net>, <Ger-Volga-L@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: Re: [GV] Wittman Family > > > > Sharon, I'll scan them shortly and try to emailed them to you with a little > > more information on the rest of the family. > > Paula > > > > > > At 09:09 AM 8/14/2007 -0500, you wrote: > >> I am definitely interested in any information you have about Peter & > >> Catherine Wittman. I would also love to have copies of the pictures you > >> have of them. If you can scan & email them that would be great, otherwise > >> if you could have reprints made I would gladly reimburse you for any > >> expense... > >> > >> Sharon McGinness > >> smcginness1@cox.net > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > >-- >Have a great day :-) > >Sharon McGinness >smcginness1@cox.net > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They were from Herzog. I can find out if there were married in Victoria, but it will take me a few days. The offices are closed tomorrow. Kevin -- Kevin Rupp 2301 Canal Blvd Hays, Ks. 67601 krupp@ruraltel.net www.volgagerman.net volgagerman@ruraltel.net www.germansfromrussia.net > From: <smcginness1@cox.net> > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:26:19 -0500 > To: Kevin Rupp <krupp@ruraltel.net>, VG List <Ger-Volga-L@rootsweb.com>, Paula > Nevin <Pnevin@pld.com> > Subject: Re: [GV] Wittman Family > > Do you know what village in Russia the Wittman's came from? Also, since Peter > & Catherine Biel Wittman settled in Victoria when they arrived in the U.S., > were Anna Wittman & John Schupman married in St. Fidelis Church? > > Sharon McGinness > smcginness1@cox.net > > > ---- Kevin Rupp <krupp@ruraltel.net> wrote: > > ============= > HI Paula, > > What exactly are you needing on your family, I may have something for you. > > Kevin > > > -- > > Kevin Rupp > 2301 Canal Blvd > Hays, Ks. 67601 > krupp@ruraltel.net > www.volgagerman.net > volgagerman@ruraltel.net > www.germansfromrussia.net > > > > > > > > >> From: Paula Nevin <Pnevin@pld.com> >> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:14:44 -0500 >> To: <smcginness1@cox.net>, <Ger-Volga-L@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [GV] Wittman Family >> >> Sharon, I'll scan them shortly and try to emailed them to you with a little >> more information on the rest of the family. >> Paula >> >> >> At 09:09 AM 8/14/2007 -0500, you wrote: >>> I am definitely interested in any information you have about Peter & >>> Catherine Wittman. I would also love to have copies of the pictures you >>> have of them. If you can scan & email them that would be great, otherwise >>> if you could have reprints made I would gladly reimburse you for any >>> expense... >>> >>> Sharon McGinness >>> smcginness1@cox.net >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > Have a great day :-) > > Sharon McGinness > smcginness1@cox.net >

Do you know what village in Russia the Wittman's came from? Also, since Peter & Catherine Biel Wittman settled in Victoria when they arrived in the U.S., were Anna Wittman & John Schupman married in St. Fidelis Church? Sharon McGinness smcginness1@cox.net ---- Kevin Rupp <krupp@ruraltel.net> wrote: ============= HI Paula, What exactly are you needing on your family, I may have something for you. Kevin -- Kevin Rupp 2301 Canal Blvd Hays, Ks. 67601 krupp@ruraltel.net www.volgagerman.net volgagerman@ruraltel.net www.germansfromrussia.net > From: Paula Nevin <Pnevin@pld.com> > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:14:44 -0500 > To: <smcginness1@cox.net>, <Ger-Volga-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [GV] Wittman Family > > Sharon, I'll scan them shortly and try to emailed them to you with a little > more information on the rest of the family. > Paula > > > At 09:09 AM 8/14/2007 -0500, you wrote: >> I am definitely interested in any information you have about Peter & >> Catherine Wittman. I would also love to have copies of the pictures you >> have of them. If you can scan & email them that would be great, otherwise >> if you could have reprints made I would gladly reimburse you for any >> expense... >> >> Sharon McGinness >> smcginness1@cox.net >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -- Have a great day :-) Sharon McGinness smcginness1@cox.net

HI Paula, What exactly are you needing on your family, I may have something for you. Kevin -- Kevin Rupp 2301 Canal Blvd Hays, Ks. 67601 krupp@ruraltel.net www.volgagerman.net volgagerman@ruraltel.net www.germansfromrussia.net > From: Paula Nevin <Pnevin@pld.com> > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:14:44 -0500 > To: <smcginness1@cox.net>, <Ger-Volga-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [GV] Wittman Family > > Sharon, I'll scan them shortly and try to emailed them to you with a little > more information on the rest of the family. > Paula > > > At 09:09 AM 8/14/2007 -0500, you wrote: >> I am definitely interested in any information you have about Peter & >> Catherine Wittman. I would also love to have copies of the pictures you >> have of them. If you can scan & email them that would be great, otherwise >> if you could have reprints made I would gladly reimburse you for any >> expense... >> >> Sharon McGinness >> smcginness1@cox.net >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Sharon, I'll scan them shortly and try to emailed them to you with a little more information on the rest of the family. Paula At 09:09 AM 8/14/2007 -0500, you wrote: >I am definitely interested in any information you have about Peter & >Catherine Wittman. I would also love to have copies of the pictures you >have of them. If you can scan & email them that would be great, otherwise >if you could have reprints made I would gladly reimburse you for any expense... > >Sharon McGinness >smcginness1@cox.net >

Hi Frank, I haven't really worked much with the Wittman's except as they pertain to my Biel family and I too am confused about the Wittman's on the Mosel. The group of Wittman's that Rev. Laing refers to actually number 13 on the passenger list and I don't believe they are my Wittmans. I say mine came on the Mosel because that information was in Die Herzoger. I still need to make my way through those 1454 souls to see if there isn't another family that can be mine. The group on the passenger list are: Johann age 41 Anna 38 Alexander 11 Anna 14 Johannis 7 Michael 2 Andreas 4 Peter 6/12 Catharina 62 Peter 37 Catharina 35 Anna 8 Joseph 1 I think they are on pages 740 and 742 of Die Herzoger. That would be Johannes Wittman son of Alexander and Katherine (Folwerk) Wittman and his wife Anna Catherine Brungardt. The ages are right for this family. Catharina age 62 is his mother and Peter age 37 and Catharina age 35 are his brother and sister in law. Could that Peter born March 10, 1838 and married to Katharine Nussbaum be yours? Is my thinking sound on this? The names seem to work for my family but not the ages so I'm still looking for mine. Hope I haven't muddied the waters too much. Paula At 03:57 AM 8/14/2007 -0500, frank jacobs wrote: >Hello Paula, > >Maybe you can help me clarify some Wittman questions. >Rev. Francis Laing in his book, German Russian Settlements in Ellis County >, Kansas wrote of the Mosel. 1454 souls took passage on the Mosel. Among >thse listed were "John Wittmann (8), Peter Wittmann (3), Martin Yunker (8) , >Peter Yunker (4), all of Herzog, Russia." >"All of these , excepting Peter Yunker, who remained in Topeka until 1877, >made their home in Herzog, arriving in Victoria August 3, 1876." >If I am reading this correctly, there were 11 Wittmanns on this passage of >the Mosel. > >I have a greatgrandfather, Peter Wittmann who arrived in Victoria in this >migration. Perhaps you can tell me how he fit into this grouping. The four >villages of Rohleder, Herzog, Graf and Marienthal were all within a stone's >throw of each other, so where they lived in Russia was probably quite fluid, >depending on the year. Liebenthal was only a short distance down the Karman >River. And the repeat naming pattern will drive you crazy trying to figure >out whether they are brothers; uncles cousins, sons and etc. Perhaps DNA >is the only real way to answer the question. We do have our Peter Wittman's >Y DNA on file. > >Descendants of Alexander Wittmann > > > >1 Alexander Wittmann d: in Russia > >.. +Katherine Folwerk d: in Russia > >...... 2 Peter Wittmann b: Mar 10, 1838 in Herzog, Russia d: Mar 03, 1918 in >Victoria, Kansas, USA Occupation: Grain miller, owner; Herzog, Russia >Immigration: 1876 SS Mosel Census: 1880 District 88, Ellis Co, Kansas > >.......... +Catherina Nussbaum b: Jul 14, 1845 in Russia d: Jan 22, 1915 in >Victoria, Kansas > >............... 3 Catherine Wittman > >............... 3 Joseph Wittman b: Oct 16, 1874 d: Apr 16, 1889 in Died of >influenza > >............... 3 Barbara Wittman b: Aug 14, 1879 d: Aug 14, 1879 in Infant >death > >............... 3 Maria Wittman b: Sep 08, 1881 d: Aug 20, 1893 in Died of >appendicitis. Is 93 or 98? > >............... 3 Johannes Wittman b: Apr 25, 1883 d: Jan 10, 1902 in >Victoria, Ks died trying to jump a freight train > >............... 3 Margaret Wittman b: Aug 24, 1885 in Victoria, Kansas d: >Dec 11, 1968 in Victoria, Kansas Burial: St. Fidelis Cemetery, Victoria, >Kansas, USA > > THIS WAS MY GRANDMOTHER > >................... +Andrew Klaus b: Sep 08, 1882 in Munjor, Kansas, USA d: >Jul 20, 1966 in Victoria, Kansas, USA m: Apr 26, 1904 in St. Fidelis Church, >Victoria, Kansas, USA Burial: St. Fidelis Cemetery, Victoria, Kansas, USA > >............... 3 Anna Maria Wittman b: Sep 06, 1866 d: Sep 14, 1899 > >................... +Alexander (Sr.) Geist b: Oct 1865 in Obermunjor, Russia >d: May 21, 1918 in Hyacinth, Kansas tornado victim m: Nov 08, 1886 Burial: >May 21, 1918 St John's Cemetery, Hyacinth, KS > >............... 3 Wittman b: Dec 1876 d: Feb 28, 1878 > >............... 3 John Wittman b: 1882 d: Sep 11, 1889 > >............... 3 [1] Agnes Wittmann b: Aug 13, 1877 d: Aug 22, 1940 > >................... +Bollig > >............... *2nd Husband of [1] Agnes Wittmann: > >................... +Martin Quint b: Mar 23, 1865 d: Oct 16, 1922 m: Apr 15, >1901 > >...... 2 Johannes Wittman b: Dec 08, 1835 in Russia d: Apr 08, 1914 >Immigration: Jul 29, 1876 New York New York S S Mosel Census: 1880 District >88, Ellis Co, Kansas > >.......... +Anna Catherine Brungardt b: Feb 1838 in Russia d: Feb 16, 1884 >m: in Russia Immigration: Jul 29, 1876 New York New York S S Mosel > >............... 3 Alexander Wittman b: Jun 15, 1864 in Herzog Russia d: Mar >15, 1943 in Park Kansas Immigration: Jul 29, 1876 New York New York S S >Mosel > >................... +Elizabeth Kreutzer b: Dec 08, 1869 in Russia d: Jul 31, >1960 in Park Kansas m: Jan 15, 1890 Immigration: Jul 29, 1876 New York New >York S S Mosel > >............... 3 Michael M Wittman b: May 17, 1874 in Russia d: Nov 10, >1957 in Walker Kansas Immigration: Jul 29, 1876 New York New York S S Mosel > >................... +Margaret Braun b: Jun 04, 1876 in Herzog Russia d: Apr >17, 1913 in Walker Kansas m: Oct 09, 1894 in Herzog Kansas Immigration: Apr >17, 1888 Baltimore Maryland S S America > >............... 3 Franz J Wittman b: Oct 26, 1883 in Herzog Kansas d: Jan >24, 1952 in Topeka Kansas Burial: Jan 28, 1952 Mt Calvary Cemetery, Topeka, >KS > >................... +Katharina Scheck b: Oct 21, 1883 in Herzog Kansas d: >Apr 23, 1963 in Topeka Kansas m: Nov 24, 1903 in Herzog Kansas > >............... 3 Anna Katherina Wittman b: Jun 10, 1862 > >............... 3 Johannes Wittman b: 1867 d: Apr 26, 1884 > >............... 3 Andreas Wittman b: 1871 > >............... 3 Peter Wittman b: Jun 15, 1878 > >............... 3 Barbara Wittman b: Nov 1880 > >............... 3 Victor Wittman > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paula Nevin" <Pnevin@pld.com> >To: <GER-VOLGA-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 10:22 PM >Subject: Re: [GV] Wittman Family > > > > Sharon, > > Catharina Biel was born in Graf (Krutoyaroka), Russia to Peter and > > Elisabetha (Storm) Biel. > > > > On July 15, 1875 she married Peter Witman in Liebenthal (Lubonirovka), > > Russia. He was the son of Heinrich Johannes and Elisabeth (Stressler) > > Wittman. > > > > They came to America on the SS Mosel in 1876 and settled in Herzog > > (Victoria). They also lived in Colorado for a time. Between 1900 and 1910 > > they moved to Marienthal, Wichita Co., KS where Catharina's brother Jacob > > Biel and his wife Anna Maria Kreutzer were living. > > > > I have two pictures of Catharina, one when she was a young woman with her > > parents and the other of her and Pete in Marienthal sitting in chairs > > beside their adobe home probably shortly before her death.. > > > > I have a little more information if you are interested. Peter and > > Elisabetha (Storm) Biel were my GG Grandparents. I'm descended from their > > son, Jacob Biel. They had other children that also came to America. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Paula Nevin > > Holcomb, KS > > > > > > > > > > At 12:54 AM 8/11/2007 -0500, you wrote: > >>I am trying to find info re: Peter and Catherine (nee Biel) Wittman. I > >>don't know what village they came from in Russia. This is what I do know > >>about them: > >> > >>Peter was born in Russia abt. 1853 & died in Leoti, KS on 3 Apr 1936. He > >>is buried in an unmarked grave in the Marienthal cemetery. > >> > >>Catherine was born in Russia 4 Jul 1855. She died 25 Jul 1924 in Leoti, > >>KS & is also buried in an unmarked grave in the Marienthal cemetery. Her > >>parents were Jakob Biel and Maria Storm. > >> > >>Peter & Catherine came to Victoria, KS on 3 Aug 1876, along with their > >>daughter, Anna (my great-grandmother). Anna was born 19 Apr 1879 in > >>Russia. She married John Schupman (alt. sp. Schuckman) on 24 Sep > >>1904. She died 25 Nov 1947 in LaCrosse, KS. > >> > >>Peter & Catherine's other children, from what I have gleaned from U.S. > >>Federal Census records, were: > >> > >>Peter, b. abt. 1886 > >>Heinrich, b. 23 Oct 1888 > >>John, b. abt. 1890 > >>Joseph, b. 28 Jul 1892 > >>Maria, b. abt. 1893 > >>Conrad, b. abt. 1895 > >>Katherine, b. abt. 1898 > >>Abraham, b. abt 1899 > >> > >> > >>-- > >>Have a great day :-) > >> > >>Sharon McGinness > >>smcginness1@cox.net > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Scottsbluff Star Hearld Scottsbluff, NE 14 Aug 2007 Rita L. Kraus, 62 of Scottsbluff, died Friday, Aug. 10, 2007, at Regional West Medical Center. Graveside services will be held at 2 p.m., Wednesday, Aug. 15, at Sunset Memorial Park in Scottsbluff with Pastor Ken Boston officiating. Cremation was held at Sunset Memorial Park Crematory. A memorial has been established to the American Diabetes Association. Tributes of sympathy may be left at www.dugankramer.com. Rita was born Oct. 16, 1944, in Scottsbluff to William and Martha Louise (Smith) Nelson. She received her education in Harrisburg graduating in 1962. She attended Hiram Scott Junior College. Rita married Ronald LeRoy Kraus Aug. 19, 1966, in Bayard. She currently was an insurance agent with Combined Insurance Co. Survivors include her son and daughter-in-law, Byron and Sarah Kraus of Waco, Neb.; daughter, Terry Kraus of Terrytown; father and stepmother, William and Zula "Key" Nelson of Gering; and sister, Joyce Nelson of Gering. Her mother, sister, Joan and husband Ronald preceded her in death.

Hello Paula, Maybe you can help me clarify some Wittman questions. Rev. Francis Laing in his book, German Russian Settlements in Ellis County , Kansas wrote of the Mosel. 1454 souls took passage on the Mosel. Among thse listed were "John Wittmann (8), Peter Wittmann (3), Martin Yunker (8) , Peter Yunker (4), all of Herzog, Russia." "All of these , excepting Peter Yunker, who remained in Topeka until 1877, made their home in Herzog, arriving in Victoria August 3, 1876." If I am reading this correctly, there were 11 Wittmanns on this passage of the Mosel. I have a greatgrandfather, Peter Wittmann who arrived in Victoria in this migration. Perhaps you can tell me how he fit into this grouping. The four villages of Rohleder, Herzog, Graf and Marienthal were all within a stone's throw of each other, so where they lived in Russia was probably quite fluid, depending on the year. Liebenthal was only a short distance down the Karman River. And the repeat naming pattern will drive you crazy trying to figure out whether they are brothers; uncles cousins, sons and etc. Perhaps DNA is the only real way to answer the question. We do have our Peter Wittman's Y DNA on file. Descendants of Alexander Wittmann 1 Alexander Wittmann d: in Russia .. +Katherine Folwerk d: in Russia ...... 2 Peter Wittmann b: Mar 10, 1838 in Herzog, Russia d: Mar 03, 1918 in Victoria, Kansas, USA Occupation: Grain miller, owner; Herzog, Russia Immigration: 1876 SS Mosel Census: 1880 District 88, Ellis Co, Kansas .......... +Catherina Nussbaum b: Jul 14, 1845 in Russia d: Jan 22, 1915 in Victoria, Kansas ............... 3 Catherine Wittman ............... 3 Joseph Wittman b: Oct 16, 1874 d: Apr 16, 1889 in Died of influenza ............... 3 Barbara Wittman b: Aug 14, 1879 d: Aug 14, 1879 in Infant death ............... 3 Maria Wittman b: Sep 08, 1881 d: Aug 20, 1893 in Died of appendicitis. Is 93 or 98? ............... 3 Johannes Wittman b: Apr 25, 1883 d: Jan 10, 1902 in Victoria, Ks died trying to jump a freight train ............... 3 Margaret Wittman b: Aug 24, 1885 in Victoria, Kansas d: Dec 11, 1968 in Victoria, Kansas Burial: St. Fidelis Cemetery, Victoria, Kansas, USA THIS WAS MY GRANDMOTHER ................... +Andrew Klaus b: Sep 08, 1882 in Munjor, Kansas, USA d: Jul 20, 1966 in Victoria, Kansas, USA m: Apr 26, 1904 in St. Fidelis Church, Victoria, Kansas, USA Burial: St. Fidelis Cemetery, Victoria, Kansas, USA ............... 3 Anna Maria Wittman b: Sep 06, 1866 d: Sep 14, 1899 ................... +Alexander (Sr.) Geist b: Oct 1865 in Obermunjor, Russia d: May 21, 1918 in Hyacinth, Kansas tornado victim m: Nov 08, 1886 Burial: May 21, 1918 St John's Cemetery, Hyacinth, KS ............... 3 Wittman b: Dec 1876 d: Feb 28, 1878 ............... 3 John Wittman b: 1882 d: Sep 11, 1889 ............... 3 [1] Agnes Wittmann b: Aug 13, 1877 d: Aug 22, 1940 ................... +Bollig ............... *2nd Husband of [1] Agnes Wittmann: ................... +Martin Quint b: Mar 23, 1865 d: Oct 16, 1922 m: Apr 15, 1901 ...... 2 Johannes Wittman b: Dec 08, 1835 in Russia d: Apr 08, 1914 Immigration: Jul 29, 1876 New York New York S S Mosel Census: 1880 District 88, Ellis Co, Kansas .......... +Anna Catherine Brungardt b: Feb 1838 in Russia d: Feb 16, 1884 m: in Russia Immigration: Jul 29, 1876 New York New York S S Mosel ............... 3 Alexander Wittman b: Jun 15, 1864 in Herzog Russia d: Mar 15, 1943 in Park Kansas Immigration: Jul 29, 1876 New York New York S S Mosel ................... +Elizabeth Kreutzer b: Dec 08, 1869 in Russia d: Jul 31, 1960 in Park Kansas m: Jan 15, 1890 Immigration: Jul 29, 1876 New York New York S S Mosel ............... 3 Michael M Wittman b: May 17, 1874 in Russia d: Nov 10, 1957 in Walker Kansas Immigration: Jul 29, 1876 New York New York S S Mosel ................... +Margaret Braun b: Jun 04, 1876 in Herzog Russia d: Apr 17, 1913 in Walker Kansas m: Oct 09, 1894 in Herzog Kansas Immigration: Apr 17, 1888 Baltimore Maryland S S America ............... 3 Franz J Wittman b: Oct 26, 1883 in Herzog Kansas d: Jan 24, 1952 in Topeka Kansas Burial: Jan 28, 1952 Mt Calvary Cemetery, Topeka, KS ................... +Katharina Scheck b: Oct 21, 1883 in Herzog Kansas d: Apr 23, 1963 in Topeka Kansas m: Nov 24, 1903 in Herzog Kansas ............... 3 Anna Katherina Wittman b: Jun 10, 1862 ............... 3 Johannes Wittman b: 1867 d: Apr 26, 1884 ............... 3 Andreas Wittman b: 1871 ............... 3 Peter Wittman b: Jun 15, 1878 ............... 3 Barbara Wittman b: Nov 1880 ............... 3 Victor Wittman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Nevin" <Pnevin@pld.com> To: <GER-VOLGA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [GV] Wittman Family > Sharon, > Catharina Biel was born in Graf (Krutoyaroka), Russia to Peter and > Elisabetha (Storm) Biel. > > On July 15, 1875 she married Peter Witman in Liebenthal (Lubonirovka), > Russia. He was the son of Heinrich Johannes and Elisabeth (Stressler) > Wittman. > > They came to America on the SS Mosel in 1876 and settled in Herzog > (Victoria). They also lived in Colorado for a time. Between 1900 and 1910 > they moved to Marienthal, Wichita Co., KS where Catharina's brother Jacob > Biel and his wife Anna Maria Kreutzer were living. > > I have two pictures of Catharina, one when she was a young woman with her > parents and the other of her and Pete in Marienthal sitting in chairs > beside their adobe home probably shortly before her death.. > > I have a little more information if you are interested. Peter and > Elisabetha (Storm) Biel were my GG Grandparents. I'm descended from their > son, Jacob Biel. They had other children that also came to America. > > Best wishes, > > Paula Nevin > Holcomb, KS > > > > > At 12:54 AM 8/11/2007 -0500, you wrote: >>I am trying to find info re: Peter and Catherine (nee Biel) Wittman. I >>don't know what village they came from in Russia. This is what I do know >>about them: >> >>Peter was born in Russia abt. 1853 & died in Leoti, KS on 3 Apr 1936. He >>is buried in an unmarked grave in the Marienthal cemetery. >> >>Catherine was born in Russia 4 Jul 1855. She died 25 Jul 1924 in Leoti, >>KS & is also buried in an unmarked grave in the Marienthal cemetery. Her >>parents were Jakob Biel and Maria Storm. >> >>Peter & Catherine came to Victoria, KS on 3 Aug 1876, along with their >>daughter, Anna (my great-grandmother). Anna was born 19 Apr 1879 in >>Russia. She married John Schupman (alt. sp. Schuckman) on 24 Sep >>1904. She died 25 Nov 1947 in LaCrosse, KS. >> >>Peter & Catherine's other children, from what I have gleaned from U.S. >>Federal Census records, were: >> >>Peter, b. abt. 1886 >>Heinrich, b. 23 Oct 1888 >>John, b. abt. 1890 >>Joseph, b. 28 Jul 1892 >>Maria, b. abt. 1893 >>Conrad, b. abt. 1895 >>Katherine, b. abt. 1898 >>Abraham, b. abt 1899 >> >> >>-- >>Have a great day :-) >> >>Sharon McGinness >>smcginness1@cox.net >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Sharon, Catharina Biel was born in Graf (Krutoyaroka), Russia to Peter and Elisabetha (Storm) Biel. On July 15, 1875 she married Peter Witman in Liebenthal (Lubonirovka), Russia. He was the son of Heinrich Johannes and Elisabeth (Stressler) Wittman. They came to America on the SS Mosel in 1876 and settled in Herzog (Victoria). They also lived in Colorado for a time. Between 1900 and 1910 they moved to Marienthal, Wichita Co., KS where Catharina's brother Jacob Biel and his wife Anna Maria Kreutzer were living. I have two pictures of Catharina, one when she was a young woman with her parents and the other of her and Pete in Marienthal sitting in chairs beside their adobe home probably shortly before her death.. I have a little more information if you are interested. Peter and Elisabetha (Storm) Biel were my GG Grandparents. I'm descended from their son, Jacob Biel. They had other children that also came to America. Best wishes, Paula Nevin Holcomb, KS At 12:54 AM 8/11/2007 -0500, you wrote: >I am trying to find info re: Peter and Catherine (nee Biel) Wittman. I >don't know what village they came from in Russia. This is what I do know >about them: > >Peter was born in Russia abt. 1853 & died in Leoti, KS on 3 Apr 1936. He >is buried in an unmarked grave in the Marienthal cemetery. > >Catherine was born in Russia 4 Jul 1855. She died 25 Jul 1924 in Leoti, >KS & is also buried in an unmarked grave in the Marienthal cemetery. Her >parents were Jakob Biel and Maria Storm. > >Peter & Catherine came to Victoria, KS on 3 Aug 1876, along with their >daughter, Anna (my great-grandmother). Anna was born 19 Apr 1879 in >Russia. She married John Schupman (alt. sp. Schuckman) on 24 Sep >1904. She died 25 Nov 1947 in LaCrosse, KS. > >Peter & Catherine's other children, from what I have gleaned from U.S. >Federal Census records, were: > >Peter, b. abt. 1886 >Heinrich, b. 23 Oct 1888 >John, b. abt. 1890 >Joseph, b. 28 Jul 1892 >Maria, b. abt. 1893 >Conrad, b. abt. 1895 >Katherine, b. abt. 1898 >Abraham, b. abt 1899 > > >-- >Have a great day :-) > >Sharon McGinness >smcginness1@cox.net > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sharon, Catharina Biel was born in Graf (Krutoyaroka), Russia to Peter and Elisabetha (Storm) Biel. On July 15, 1875 she married Peter Witman in Liebenthal (Lubonirovka), Russia. He was the son of Heinrich Johannes and Elisabeth (Stressler) Wittman. They came to America on the SS Mosel in 1876 and settled in Herzog (Victoria). They also lived in Colorado for a time. Between 1900 and 1910 they moved to Marienthal, Wichita Co., KS where Catharina's brother Jacob Biel and his wife Anna Maria Kreutzer were living. I have two pictures of Catharina, one when she was a young woman with her parents and the other of her and Pete in Marienthal sitting in chairs beside their adobe home probably shortly before her death.. I have a little more information if you are interested. Peter and Elisabetha (Storm) Biel were my GG Grandparents. I'm descended from their son, Jacob Biel. They had other children that also came to America. Best wishes, Paula Nevin Holcomb, KS At 12:54 AM 8/11/2007 -0500, smcginness1@cox.net wrote: >I am trying to find info re: Peter and Catherine (nee Biel) Wittman. I >don't know what village they came from in Russia. This is what I do know >about them: > >Peter was born in Russia abt. 1853 & died in Leoti, KS on 3 Apr 1936. He >is buried in an unmarked grave in the Marienthal cemetery. > >Catherine was born in Russia 4 Jul 1855. She died 25 Jul 1924 in Leoti, >KS & is also buried in an unmarked grave in the Marienthal cemetery. Her >parents were Jakob Biel and Maria Storm. > >Peter & Catherine came to Victoria, KS on 3 Aug 1876, along with their >daughter, Anna (my great-grandmother). Anna was born 19 Apr 1879 in >Russia. She married John Schupman (alt. sp. Schuckman) on 24 Sep >1904. She died 25 Nov 1947 in LaCrosse, KS. > >Peter & Catherine's other children, from what I have gleaned from U.S. >Federal Census records, were: > >Peter, b. abt. 1886 >Heinrich, b. 23 Oct 1888 >John, b. abt. 1890 >Joseph, b. 28 Jul 1892 >Maria, b. abt. 1893 >Conrad, b. abt. 1895 >Katherine, b. abt. 1898 >Abraham, b. abt 1899 > > >-- >Have a great day :-) > >Sharon McGinness >smcginness1@cox.net > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sharon, Catharina Biel was born in Graf (Krutoyaroka), Russia to Peter and Elisabetha (Storm) Biel. On July 15, 1875 she married Peter Witman in Liebenthal (Lubonirovka), Russia. He was the son of Heinrich Johannes and Elisabeth (Stressler) Wittman. They came to America on the SS Mosel in 1876 and settled in Herzog (Victoria). They also lived in Colorado for a time. Between 1900 and 1910 they moved to Marienthal, Wichita Co., KS where Catharina's brother Jacob Biel and his wife Anna Maria Kreutzer were living. I have two pictures of Catharina, one when she was a young woman with her parents and the other of her and Pete in Marienthal sitting in chairs beside their adobe home probably shortly before her death.. I have a little more information if you are interested. Peter and Elisabetha (Storm) Biel were my GG Grandparents. I'm descended from their son, Jacob Biel. They had other children that also came to America. Best wishes, Paula Nevin Holcomb, KS At 12:54 AM 8/11/2007 -0500, smcginness1@cox.net wrote: >I am trying to find info re: Peter and Catherine (nee Biel) Wittman. I >don't know what village they came from in Russia. This is what I do know >about them: > >Peter was born in Russia abt. 1853 & died in Leoti, KS on 3 Apr 1936. He >is buried in an unmarked grave in the Marienthal cemetery. > >Catherine was born in Russia 4 Jul 1855. She died 25 Jul 1924 in Leoti, >KS & is also buried in an unmarked grave in the Marienthal cemetery. Her >parents were Jakob Biel and Maria Storm. > >Peter & Catherine came to Victoria, KS on 3 Aug 1876, along with their >daughter, Anna (my great-grandmother). Anna was born 19 Apr 1879 in >Russia. She married John Schupman (alt. sp. Schuckman) on 24 Sep >1904. She died 25 Nov 1947 in LaCrosse, KS. > >Peter & Catherine's other children, from what I have gleaned from U.S. >Federal Census records, were: > >Peter, b. abt. 1886 >Heinrich, b. 23 Oct 1888 >John, b. abt. 1890 >Joseph, b. 28 Jul 1892 >Maria, b. abt. 1893 >Conrad, b. abt. 1895 >Katherine, b. abt. 1898 >Abraham, b. abt 1899 > > >-- >Have a great day :-) > >Sharon McGinness >smcginness1@cox.net > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message