A long time ago, when Catherine was Great, she sent out a call and opeaned the gate. Us Germans came in & started the fields. We worked long & hard, but we never did starve.Then the sun went down, and Stalin came around! We were shot,starved,& scattered around,sorrow & pain were all that was around. Auslanders to our Fatherland,and outcasts to our Motherland ! We are now all at rest,wishing our desendants the best, and have but just one small request : " LIVE YOUR LIVES AS YOU MUST, BUT DON'T FORGET US ! --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.

In a message dated 8/24/2007 1:04:37 AM Mountain Daylight Time, ger-volga-request@rootsweb.com writes: On Aug 21, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Angela Rice wrote: > I am new to the list and looking for anyone with connections to the > surname > Trebelhorn, Tribelhorn, Tripplehorn, Trubelhorn or any other similar > spellings. I have compiled quite a bit of information that I am now > trying > to assemble into some sort of order! My primary focus has been the > village > of Beideck, but I have links to other villages as well. Any help > would be > greatly appreciated! > Angela While researching my grandfather (no relation that I know of) in Globeville (Denver) Colorado I noted numerous Trebelhorns (various spellings) were recorded in the old church records of the two Lutheran churches in Globeville. I also ran across a rather comical article in the Denver newspaper cir 1910 regarding a wedding reception brawl at the Globeville home of Jacob Triblehorn. Let me know if interested in article. Rosemarie Snyder ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Dugan Kramer Funeral Home Scottsbluff, Nebraska 08-25-2007 Helen Lucille Loose 03/09/1930 - 8/22/2007 Helen L. Loose, 77, of Scottsbluff, died Wednesday, August 22, 2007 at the Mitchell Care Center. A graveside service will be held 2:00 p.m. Monday, August 27, 2007 at Fairview Cemetery in Scottsbluff with Pastor Garry Schick officiating. Helen was born March 9, 1930 in Bayard, Ne to Henry and Katy (Bauer) Keller. She graduated from Minatare High School and married Walter Loose in September of 1948. She loved to work word and jigsaw puzzles. Survivors include her sons: Garry (Gay) of Mitchell and Larry of Scottsbluff; brothers: Gordon (Joanne) Keller and Don (Marsha) Keller of Scottsbluff; 2 grandchildren and 4 great grandchildren. She was preceded in death by her husband, daughter Cathy Kincaid and a grandson. Memorial to Helen L. Loose Memorial Fund in care of the family. *********************************************************************** Elaine McDowell http://www.ancestrylocator.com A site set up to help find your ancestors by using the forum or gallery. Come join in, and it is a free site.

For those interested in getting a copy of a complete church book (birth, death, marriage), Volgograd now indicates that they have different rules and they will copy a whole book at $2 per page. For people interested in ordering records for a surname from Volgograd, please look at the bottom of this page: http://www.dobrinka.org/archives/Volgograd_archives_research.pdf There is information that has been added to the bottom of the page which tells you how to formulate an order for Mila. Gary Martens

Sharon; I do not know about Hays but I have in my personal library two complete sets of each. If you do not find what you need in Hay let me know. Ron Ron & Lynn Greenwald 5882 Seldovia Road Fort Collins CO. 80524 (970) 484-9771 or Cell (970) 217-6091 E-mail RonFarmcr3@msn.com<mailto:RonFarmcr3@msn.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: smcginness1@cox.net<mailto:smcginness1@cox.net> To: GER-VOLGA@rootsweb.com<mailto:GER-VOLGA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:24 PM Subject: [GV] Accessing AHSGR Periodicals Can anyone tell me if the Hays chapter of AHSGR has back-issues of the Work Paper, Journal, & Clues (and, if so, how & where to access them), or if these periodicals can be found at the Hays Public Library? -- Have a great day :-) Sharon McGinness smcginness1@cox.net<mailto:smcginness1@cox.net> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey List, Does anyone know if the 1834 Semenovka Census lists is available? I think AHSGR may have a heads of family list, but I'm looking for the full census. I would like a copy. Thanks! Kevin Rupp -- Kevin Rupp 2301 Canal Blvd Hays, Ks. 67601 krupp@ruraltel.net www.volgagerman.net volgagerman@ruraltel.net www.germansfromrussia.net

Greeley Tribune Greeley, Colorado 08-25-2006 Jack Bohlender Aug. 30, 1927 Age: 79 Residence: Northglenn, formerly of Platteville Jack Norman Bohlender was born in Platteville to Jacob and Gaynell (Birkle) Bohlender. His wife, Patty, is deceased. Mr. Bohlender died Aug. 18 in Northglenn. Survivors: A son, Jerry Bohlender and wife Georgie; two daughters, Judy Bohlender and Jill DeRose and husband Joe; a brother, Glenn Bohlender and wife June; a sister, Jean Brown and husband Bob; and four grandchildren. Services: As requested, no services will be conducted. *********************************************************************** Elaine McDowell http://www.ancestrylocator.com A site set up to help find your ancestors by using the forum or gallery. Come join in, and it is a free site.

Hi, all, You might check with a Teacher's Supply Store. I know that they can laminate some of the large charts I've needed for work and they were considerably less expensive than Kinko's. They might be able to do some color copy work too. Karen Albright Eureka, CA (Harras, Helmuth)

HI Sharon, The Hays Public Library and the FHSU Library should both have copies. Kevin Rupp Sunflower Chapter -- Kevin Rupp 2301 Canal Blvd Hays, Ks. 67601 krupp@ruraltel.net www.volgagerman.net volgagerman@ruraltel.net www.germansfromrussia.net > From: <smcginness1@cox.net> > Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:24:04 -0500 > To: <GER-VOLGA@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [GV] Accessing AHSGR Periodicals > > Can anyone tell me if the Hays chapter of AHSGR has back-issues of the Work > Paper, Journal, & Clues (and, if so, how & where to access them), or if these > periodicals can be found at the Hays Public Library? > -- > Have a great day :-) > > Sharon McGinness > smcginness1@cox.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me if the Hays chapter of AHSGR has back-issues of the Work Paper, Journal, & Clues (and, if so, how & where to access them), or if these periodicals can be found at the Hays Public Library? -- Have a great day :-) Sharon McGinness smcginness1@cox.net

I want to reiterate what I have said about getting charts done at the Volgograd Archives. First, when inquiring about ordering a chart, are you ordering for a surname from a village where there are fairly complete records. The only villages I see at Volgograd where that is true are Dobrinka, Kraft, and Beideck. If there are records for a village at another archive, Volgograd personnel will not go to the other archive to get records. Also, Mila has no control over how long it might take to get a chart completed at Volgograd. The time listed is the length of time it has taken in the past. All she can do is place the order and wait for completion. Gary Martens

I had someone with a name in Russian email me 3 photos, to the email address on my Dobrinka web site. The message only said "Dobrinka today". The photos are here, on the bottom of the page: http://dobrinka.org/today.html I've never been to Dobrinka so I have no clue whether these are authentic, or not. Is the lake on the Volga behind the dam this wide at Dobrinka? I don't see the church that Ed Hoak talked about in this trip report there from May 2001. Comments please, from anyone that has been to Dobrinka, or to villages in the southern part of what used to be Saratov Province. Gary Martens Dobrinka VC

I have received some additional information on what records are at the Volgograd Archives. You can get to the table of information by going here and looking at the Volgograd Archives section: http://www.dobrinka.org/archives/ Or just to that page here: http://www.dobrinka.org/archives/Volgograd_archives_revised.pdf Note that the list is not in order by German village name. There is also what appear to be Black Sea area villages on the list, since I don't see these village names in Richard Sallet's list of village names, but I do see the names in the master village name as being from the Black Sea area. If anyone recognizes names and knows of alternate German names or Russian names that aren't shown, let me know. Gary Martens

Gary, thanks for posting that link to Wholly Genes. Their prices are SUBSTANTIALLY less expensive than generating the color chart yourself in, for example, PAF companion and taking it to Kinkos and having color copies made of an oversized format. Does anybody have any other solutions for duplicating large charts in color? My PAF companion generated chart for my mom's ancestors is 2 feet wide by 20 feet long. It can be copied in black and white on the large format machines at Kinkos at a reasonable price, but the price for color copies is crazy. > >For those of you that are dead set on having a chart, here's a way of doing >it. Buy all the records that you can for a surname and enter the information >into your database. Then have Wholly Genes generate a chart for you: > >http://www.whollygenes.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=WG&S >creen=GOTCHARTS > >They taken input from The Master Genealogist, Family Tree Maker, Legacy >and PAF. The prices are: 3' x 3' chart $19.95, 3' x 10' chart $29.95, and 3' >x 25' $69.95. > >If you use some other program, I can convert your database into an >acceptable format for Wholly Genes. > >Gary Martens >Dobrinka & Schilling Villages VC > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tim and Rosi, I made an inquiry as to the lyrics of a song my Father sings, "Heit Net Hom, Heit Net Hom," and you said I could find it in your book, "Thunder on The Steppe," and we did purchase the book. It is a wonderful book and I was so excited to find my Dad's songs. Yes plural, songs. He sings the song "She is not pretty", I don't have it in front of me, it is being passed around, so I can not spell it in German. This song he could remember except for the last line so this was a bonus for us. Thank you for writing the book and the pictures were great as well. I love the GV list! Sherry Christie Delta, CO ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I was just wondering--is anyone in this group going on the TMG Genealogy cruise this Oct-Nov? Kenny Stugart

For the person that was interested in Stephan village, the following records are available: births: 1836-1850, 1901-1902 deaths: 1836-1859, 1904 marriages: 1836-1864, 1894-1895, 1905 Gary Martens

Some more information on surname charts. For those of you that absolutely want a surname chart, here are the problems. If you wanted to have a surname chart made at Volgograd, it depends on what records are available for the village or villages at Volgograd. This is part of the reason that it takes Pleve and his researchers so long to generate a chart. Records for a given village could possibly be in 3 places, or they have big gaps, or no records. Apparently they are still finding records mixed in with other village records. I'm sure that daughter colonies are even more of a problem, because most of the villages created after about 1853 have no census, and may have no other lists of any kind about people. Then what about church records? Do they even exist, or are the records mixed in the parish church for that area? The resarchers try to start out with a chart that includes the 1775/1798, 1818, 1834, 1850 and 1857/1858 census. If that information isn't available, then they have no basis for the chart. Some families moved from one village to another in the early 1800's, so they need census records for multiple villages. Take a village like Galka, census records are apparently at Saratov and Volgograd. I know this because I ordered census records (from Pleve) for a surname from Galka back in 2000. I received the census for 1850 and 1857 almost immediately, so they are at Saratov. I received the census for 1834 and 1816 about 5 weeks later, so I figure they are at Volgograd. Volgograd only has church records for Galka, after 1860 to about 1900, with gaps. Take Dreispitz, which was founded in 1766. There were people that moved from Dobrinka, and possibly other villages, to Dreispitz in the early 1800's. Even if there are census records available, there is no information available from 1858 to about 1900. What's church records are available are Births: 1901-1902; Deaths: 1903, 1904; Marriages: 1894, 1895, 1905. Apparently even the large village of Frank has records at Saratov and Volgograd. Volgograd is 100 miles from Saratov, so it's an archive where researchers that live in Saratov go to every month or so. Engels is just across the river and easier to get to. So that's the dilemma which extends to many villages. For those of you that are dead set on having a chart, here's a way of doing it. Buy all the records that you can for a surname and enter the information into your database. Then have Wholly Genes generate a chart for you: http://www.whollygenes.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=WG&S creen=GOTCHARTS They taken input from The Master Genealogist, Family Tree Maker, Legacy and PAF. The prices are: 3' x 3' chart $19.95, 3' x 10' chart $29.95, and 3' x 25' $69.95. If you use some other program, I can convert your database into an acceptable format for Wholly Genes. Gary Martens Dobrinka & Schilling Villages VC

Scottsbluff Star Hearld Scottsbluff, NE 24 Aug 2007 MINATARE - Thomas C. Meier, 71, of Minatare, died Sunday, Aug. 19, 2007 at Regional West Medical Center. His funeral services will be held at 10 a.m., Saturday, Aug. 25, in the Salem Congregational Church Chapel in Scottsbluff, with Pastor Dale H. Brown officiating. Interment will follow at the Fairview Cemetery in Scottsbluff. Memorials in his name may be made to the Salem Congregational Church or to the Panhandle Humane Society. Friends who wish may call at the Jolliffe Funeral Home Thursday from Noon to 7 p.m., Friday from 9 a.m. to 7 p.m. and Saturday at the church prior to the funeral service. Condolences may be left at www.jolliffefuneralhome.com and will be forwarded to the family. Thomas Carl Meier was born June 8, 1936, in Minatare to Carl O. and Freda (Seckinger) Meier. He grew up and attended Minatare area schools and graduated from Minatare High School with the class of 1956. He married Margie Martin May 17, 1959, in Rapid City, S.D. He farmed north of Minatare for over forty years and during that time won the High Ten Beet Grower Award from Great Western Sugar Company many times. After retiring from farming, Tom worked as a federal crop insurance adjustor for ten years and then adjusted for private insurance companies before ill health forced his retirement in early 2007. Tom was an avid collector of vintage tractors which he enjoyed restoring and taking to tractor pulls in the area, an activity in which he had won numerous awards and trophies. He was a lifelong member of Salem Congregational Church, was a member of the Elks Lodge, the Eagles Lodge, the Farm and Ranch Museum and was a member of both the Platte Valley Tractor Pullers and the National Antique Tractor Pullers Association. Survivors include his wife, Margie of Minatare; daughters, Brenda Meier (Bob) Brown of Copperas Cove, Texas, and Terri Meier (Scott Taylor) of Denver; sisters, Jerrilyn (Wendell) Werner of Green Valley, Ariz. and Carol Meier Bridge of Minatare; grandchildren, Brandy Brown and Brent Brown, both of Copperas Cove, Texas and Phillip Meier-Taylor of Arvada, Colo., and numerous nieces and nephews. His parents preceded him in death.

German Dill Pickles............... 6 quarts cold water 1 cup salt 1 cup vinegar Add dill, black peppers and garlic. Put in crock with cucumbers, cover and let sit for 5 or 6 days. Take out earlier if you like them not so sour. Be sure all of them are kept under the brine for the whole period of time. Open Jar Dills..................... 6 cups cold water 1/2 cup white vinegar 4 scant Tbls pickling salt 1 tsp alum Add to each jar -- dill and a small stick of celery, garlic and a pinch of dried red pepper if you like them hot. Dissolve salt and alum in vinegar, then the water. Pour in jar and sit in the sun one day, then one day on the counter top and then refrigerate. They are ready to eat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis L. Sewald" <dennis@sewald.name> To: <ger-volga@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:18 PM Subject: [GV] Pickle Receipe > Anyone have a good old VG pickle recipe? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dennis Sewald > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GER-VOLGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message