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David: I don't have specifics that verify this, but my best guess is that Kindsvaters in Kana would have come from the group in Wiesenmueller. While they were not "original settlers" in Wiesenmueller, there were a number of Kindsvater families that did settle there (see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jeruslannachrichten/WMap.htm). Sergej Kindsvater is the king of Kindsvater info, however, so go with whatever he's uncovered as better than what I might surmise. Happy hunting!! ..............Brent............... Brent Mai -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gary Martens Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:48 PM To: GER-VOLGA Subject: Re: [GV] Kindsvater of Dietel David: Looking back at your original message about the Kindsvater family, and how they may have been in the village of Kana, I looked at the villages surrounding Kana to see if your ancestors got there by marriage. The villages near Kana in Samara Province are Morgentau, Blumenfeld, Gnadentau, Friedenberg and Wiesenmiller. You can look at the list of villages were the original settlers came from that settled these daughter colonies here: http://cvgs.cu-portland.edu/gazetteer.cfm The village founded with people from Dietel was Gnadentau, but the census showing the original people shows one family from Dietel, surname Grauberger. In research on the villages that I'm the village research coordinator for, I've found that people often didn't move to a daughter colony for up to 5 years or more after the village was founded. Note that most of the people founding Morgentau, Blumfeld, Gnadentau, Friedenberg and Wiesenmiller came from Galka, Shcherbakovka, Kraft, Stephan, Schwab, Holstein, Driespitz, Mueller and several other villages. Kana was founded by people from Shcherbakovka, Schwab, Dreispitz, Holstein, Dobrinka, and Moor. Kautz and Kratzske were in the Frank District in Saratov Province, within 5-10 kilometers of Dietel, the original village were Kindsvater people settled, and most likely ended up in those villages because a Kindsvater man from Dietel married a women from those villages, and stayed there with her family. Note that no people from these villages founded the villages around Kana, although they could have moved there later. A list of original settlers of Kana is here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jeruslannachrichten/KOrigSettlers.htm Michael Frank, the VC for Kautz should be able to give you more information on the Kindsvater people in that village. Prof. Brent Mai, VC for Kratzke has a website for that village here: http://www.berschauer.com/Genealogy/index2.html The Kindsvater surname shows up in the 1834 census of Kratzke, and Brent Mai may be able to give you some additional information on the families connection to Dietel. There was no Kindsvater in the 1798 census of the village. Gary Martens Dobrinka, Galka, Neu-Weimar & Schilling villages VC On 2/8/2011 8:17 PM, Jerry and Fran Goertzen wrote: > I'm having a problem downloading your GEDCOM, I often do. Could you just send the names, dtes and places of those born in Russia? > A death certificate for your grandfather should give his birth date and place and his parent's names. > That would be in Hidalgo, TX archives or wherever he died. Try www.co.hidalgo.Tx.us > The State archives may have in their records. The death records go back to 1903. Naturalization papers for your grandfather might also help. > The passenger lists I checked had many Kindsvater of various spellings but most were headed for Kansas, Oklahoma or Nebraska. > I checked the 1798 Dietel census and there were five Kindsvater families all sons of Hartman Kindsvater. The family heads were Daniel (b 1748), Werner (b.1761), Peter (b.1771), Philipp (b 1772), and Georg (b. 1775). > Your Daniel (1852) should show up in the Dietel 1857 census but there was no Daniel anywhere near that age. I did find in 1857 there were Kindsvater families in Kautz and Kratzske, two neighboring villages of Dietel. I don't have those census records they are available from Prof Brent Mai< [email protected] > There is also a Kindsvater Family Chart for Dietel (by Igor Pleve) available from AHSGR Headquarters in Lincoln, Neb< www.ahsgr.org> . > It is possible that your Kindsvater moved to Kana after the 1857 census. In that case, they would show up in Kautz or Kratske in 1857. > Once you get back to Germany, you can go to Prof Brent Mai German Volga Studies website< http://cvgs.cu-portland.edu> and go to Sergej Kindsvater Family Tree. He has researched German parish records and found the Kindsvater back to the 1500s. > First lets see if we can connect your people back to Russia through US records on file. Happy hunting Jerry Goertzen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello i'm Arthur from Brazil,How are you doing ? i'm descendant of Volga Germans, i would like to know information of the ancestors of this families ''Schmidt'' of Johannes Schmidt(1819) from Graf,Saratov Russia, he married with Katharina,and Albert Khusok(born in Poland) married with Katharina Denning(1869), and about the parents of Katharina Denning (Peter Denning and Katharina ''Heiss?'' from Saratov).I Want know if possible about the parents of Johannes Oppholz(1864) and of his wife Anna Maria Schäffer(1857),more precisely about the Michael Schäffer and Barbara, every of SaratovThank youArthur Leite Binder

Lutz, Eileen Mae, July 6, 1922- Feb. 3, 2011 Scottsbluff Star Herald Scottsbluff, NE 9 Feb 2011 MITCHELL - Eileen Mae Lutz, 88, formerly of Morrill, died Thursday, Feb. 3, 2011, at Heritage Estates in Gering. Funeral services will be held at 2 p.m. Monday, Feb. 7, at the Jones Mortuary Chapel with Pastor L.D. Alderson officiating. Burial will follow at the Forest Lawn Cemetery near Morrill. Visitation will be an hour before the service on Monday. Memorials may be made to either the Morrill Church of Christ or the Morrill Rescue Unit. Online condolences may be made by visiting www.jones-mortuary.com. Jones Mortuary is assisting the family with arrangements. Eileen was born July 6, 1922, in Clay County Nebraska to Axel E. and Ina Mae (Smith) Peterson. She was baptized into the Christian Church in April of 1934 in Clay Center. She graduated Clay Center High School in 1939. Eileen and Kenneth Hageman Lutz were united in marriage June 9, 1945 in Mankato, Kansas. Eileen enjoyed knitting, crocheting and making tea towels, all of which she shared with family and friends. She was a devoted wife, mother and grandmother, especially spoiling her grandchildren. Eileen was a member of the Morrill Church of Christ. Survivors include her son and daughter-in-law, Steven and Sandra Lutz of Morrill, grandson, Christopher Lutz and granddaughter Megan Lutz. Preceding her in death were her parents, husband Kenneth on Nov. 8, 2002, an infant daughter JoAnn and brother Howard Peterson.

Keller, Elmer L., April 15, 1924- Feb. 4, 2011 Scottsbluff Star Herald Scottsbluff, NE 9 Feb 2011 Elmer L. Keller, 86, of Gering, died Friday, Feb. 4, 2011, at Regional West Medical Center in Scottsbluff. His funeral service will be held at 10 a.m., Wednesday, Feb. 9, at Salem Congregational Church in Scottsbluff with Pastor Dale H. Brown officiating. Interment will follow at West Lawn Cemetery in Gering. Friends may call from 9 a.m. to 8 p.m., Tuesday, at Gering Memorial Chapel in Gering. Memorials have been established to Prairie Haven Hospice and Salem Congregational Church. Tributes of sympathy may be left at www.geringchapel.com Elmer was born April 15, 1924, in the Southeast Gering Valley to Pete and Marie (Schmidt) Keller. His family lived near Minatare when he began school. He graduated from the 8th grade at Gering Valley School. Elmer married Gladys I. Kaufman in 1948, at Salem Congregational Church in Scottsbluff. They farmed in the Gering Valley until 1956, then Mitchell Valley and Bayard Valley until 1957. They then moved two miles east and two miles south of Gering where they farmed until retirement in the fall of 1984. In January of 1985 they moved into Gering. He was a member of Salem Congregational Church where he served as a Deacon for 16 years. Elmer was a lifetime member of the Elks Lodge No. 1367. Elmer enjoyed fast pitch softball and was an avid bowler for the Elks Lodge for many years. He enjoyed fishing, golf and attending his grandchildren's sporting events. Survivors include his wife, Gladys Keller; daughter, Linda (Dan) Shrader of Oklahoma City, Okla.; son, Larry (Beverly) Keller of Sharon Springs, Kan.; grandchildren, Dwayne (Elizabeth) Shrader and Mike (Jeanne) Shrader all of Keller, Texas, Chris (Jennifer) Shrader of Oklahoma City, Okla., Erik (Tara) Keller of Wichita, Kan. and Brett Keller of Sharon Springs, Kan.; great-grandchildren, Sydney, Madison, Hope, Ephriam, Carson, and Cameron; sister, Gladys (Dick) Nelson of Hilton Head, S.C.; brothers, Gerald (Ruby) Keller of Gering and Ed (Pat) Keller of Bayard; sisters-in-law, Helen Keller and Diana Keller both of Gering; and numerous nieces and nephews. Elmer was preceded in death by his parents; great-granddaughter, Zoey; brothers, Reuben, Leo, and Melvin Keller; and nephew, Thomas Keller.

David: Looking back at your original message about the Kindsvater family, and how they may have been in the village of Kana, I looked at the villages surrounding Kana to see if your ancestors got there by marriage. The villages near Kana in Samara Province are Morgentau, Blumenfeld, Gnadentau, Friedenberg and Wiesenmiller. You can look at the list of villages were the original settlers came from that settled these daughter colonies here: http://cvgs.cu-portland.edu/gazetteer.cfm The village founded with people from Dietel was Gnadentau, but the census showing the original people shows one family from Dietel, surname Grauberger. In research on the villages that I'm the village research coordinator for, I've found that people often didn't move to a daughter colony for up to 5 years or more after the village was founded. Note that most of the people founding Morgentau, Blumfeld, Gnadentau, Friedenberg and Wiesenmiller came from Galka, Shcherbakovka, Kraft, Stephan, Schwab, Holstein, Driespitz, Mueller and several other villages. Kana was founded by people from Shcherbakovka, Schwab, Dreispitz, Holstein, Dobrinka, and Moor. Kautz and Kratzske were in the Frank District in Saratov Province, within 5-10 kilometers of Dietel, the original village were Kindsvater people settled, and most likely ended up in those villages because a Kindsvater man from Dietel married a women from those villages, and stayed there with her family. Note that no people from these villages founded the villages around Kana, although they could have moved there later. A list of original settlers of Kana is here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jeruslannachrichten/KOrigSettlers.htm Michael Frank, the VC for Kautz should be able to give you more information on the Kindsvater people in that village. Prof. Brent Mai, VC for Kratzke has a website for that village here: http://www.berschauer.com/Genealogy/index2.html The Kindsvater surname shows up in the 1834 census of Kratzke, and Brent Mai may be able to give you some additional information on the families connection to Dietel. There was no Kindsvater in the 1798 census of the village. Gary Martens Dobrinka, Galka, Neu-Weimar & Schilling villages VC On 2/8/2011 8:17 PM, Jerry and Fran Goertzen wrote: > I'm having a problem downloading your GEDCOM, I often do. Could you just send the names, dtes and places of those born in Russia? > A death certificate for your grandfather should give his birth date and place and his parent's names. > That would be in Hidalgo, TX archives or wherever he died. Try www.co.hidalgo.Tx.us > The State archives may have in their records. The death records go back to 1903. Naturalization papers for your grandfather might also help. > The passenger lists I checked had many Kindsvater of various spellings but most were headed for Kansas, Oklahoma or Nebraska. > I checked the 1798 Dietel census and there were five Kindsvater families all sons of Hartman Kindsvater. The family heads were Daniel (b 1748), Werner (b.1761), Peter (b.1771), Philipp (b 1772), and Georg (b. 1775). > Your Daniel (1852) should show up in the Dietel 1857 census but there was no Daniel anywhere near that age. I did find in 1857 there were Kindsvater families in Kautz and Kratzske, two neighboring villages of Dietel. I don't have those census records they are available from Prof Brent Mai< [email protected] > There is also a Kindsvater Family Chart for Dietel (by Igor Pleve) available from AHSGR Headquarters in Lincoln, Neb< www.ahsgr.org> . > It is possible that your Kindsvater moved to Kana after the 1857 census. In that case, they would show up in Kautz or Kratske in 1857. > Once you get back to Germany, you can go to Prof Brent Mai German Volga Studies website< http://cvgs.cu-portland.edu> and go to Sergej Kindsvater Family Tree. He has researched German parish records and found the Kindsvater back to the 1500s. > First lets see if we can connect your people back to Russia through US records on file. Happy hunting Jerry Goertzen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm having a problem downloading your GEDCOM, I often do. Could you just send the names, dtes and places of those born in Russia? A death certificate for your grandfather should give his birth date and place and his parent's names. That would be in Hidalgo, TX archives or wherever he died. Try www.co.hidalgo.Tx.us The State archives may have in their records. The death records go back to 1903. Naturalization papers for your grandfather might also help. The passenger lists I checked had many Kindsvater of various spellings but most were headed for Kansas, Oklahoma or Nebraska. I checked the 1798 Dietel census and there were five Kindsvater families all sons of Hartman Kindsvater. The family heads were Daniel (b 1748), Werner (b.1761), Peter (b.1771), Philipp (b 1772), and Georg (b. 1775). Your Daniel (1852) should show up in the Dietel 1857 census but there was no Daniel anywhere near that age. I did find in 1857 there were Kindsvater families in Kautz and Kratzske, two neighboring villages of Dietel. I don't have those census records they are available from Prof Brent Mai < [email protected] There is also a Kindsvater Family Chart for Dietel (by Igor Pleve) available from AHSGR Headquarters in Lincoln, Neb < www.ahsgr.org > . It is possible that your Kindsvater moved to Kana after the 1857 census. In that case, they would show up in Kautz or Kratske in 1857. Once you get back to Germany, you can go to Prof Brent Mai German Volga Studies website < http://cvgs.cu-portland.edu > and go to Sergej Kindsvater Family Tree. He has researched German parish records and found the Kindsvater back to the 1500s. First lets see if we can connect your people back to Russia through US records on file. Happy hunting Jerry Goertzen

I finally had time to check the Bavarian Parish Guides. The information is from Bavaria, book IV, Oberpfalz, Vol 17 as mentioned earlier. The village Roding is in the Parish of Maxhütte of Kreis Burlengenfeld. As I suspected, there is no microfilm of number listed. The book could still be of help though, since it gives a history and timeline for the area as well as German sources of information. It lists State archives for the different areas, genealogy groups and other sources for help in Germany. Jerry Goertzen

Reichert, Jeff, Feb. 15, 1963- Feb. 1, 2011 Scottsbluff Star Herald Scottsbluff, NE 4 Feb 2011 TORRINGTON, Wyo. - Jeff Reichert, 47, passed away Tuesday, Feb. 1, 2011, after a valiant battle with a rare form of cancer. Memorial services celebrating his life will be held at 10 a.m. Saturday, Feb. 5, at the First United Wyoming Presbyterian Church in Torrington with Pastor Steven Seng officiating. Memorials can be made to the Mayo Clinic or Regional West Physicians Clinic/Chemo; gifts will be designated for cancer research and support. There will be no visitation as cremation has taken place. Online condolences may be made by visiting www.jolliffefuneralhome.com. Jolliffe Funeral Home is assisting the family with arrangements. Jeff was born Feb. 15, 1963, to Harold and Virginia (Schleining) Reichert in Torrington. He worked the family farm at his parent's side, exploring every dimension of the operation and the land. Jeff was adventurous and had an insatiable curiosity to know the "how and why" of everything. There wasn't a topic upon which he couldn't converse, and he loved to share his stories. He was happiest when he was with his family and sharing experiences with them. Those who knew and loved Jeff will remember him for his strength of body and spirit, friendliness and generosity, infectious sense of humor and bright smile, and passion for life. Jeff is survived by his cherished wife, Debi (Kuntz), son, Austin, and daughter, Taylor, all of Torrington; mother, Virginia of Torrington; and sister, Kim of Laramie, Wyo. Preceding him in death was his father, Harold, and grandparents Henry Reichert, Christina (Steben) Reichert, and George and Pauline Schleining, all of Torrington, and Wilma (Eisenbarth) Uschak of Denver.

Hello Jerry, Here is the majority of my information. Thank you so much for taking an interest in helping me piecing the names together. I am excited to find my ancestors as well as living relations. Susan Hubenthal                          FAMILY TREE                                         (From family records)   Grandfather: Christian   (or Christoph) Wiederspahn   Born 12/18/1853 Colony Walter Grandmother : Anna Elizabeth Walters    Born 8/15/1852 Colony Walter Children: Catherine Margerita    10/16/1879 Colony Walter (my Grandmother)              Anna Elizabeth    2/6/1884 Colony Walter              Christian    4/6/1886   Colony Bethany              Alexander    3/7/1888 Colony Bethany (probably in Russian military)              Paulina    10/15/1890 Marriage: Catherine Margerita married Jacob Hofferber 9/1898 in Colony Bethany Grandfather: Jacob Hofferber    Born 7/6/1879 ? Colony Bethany Died 7/15/1923 or                           4/8/1923 (his sister married a Lesser?)                                                     Grandmother: Catherine Margarita Wiederspahn    Born 10/16/1879 Died 11/15/1968 Children:   All born Colony Bethany              Conrad (Died at 1yr of age.)              Rheinhold (Ray)   Born 9/26/1901   Died 11/10/1986 married Lydia Lesser              Johanna    Born 12/25/1903   Died 6/2/1999 (married John Kukes Ellensburg, Wa)                                                                                                      Jacob   Jake)    (Born   9/10/1905 or 12/9/1905 (married Amelia Berg Wapato, Wa.                                     After her death he married Marie Ecalbarger Carrier, Wapato , Wa .)                                   Emma    (Died at age 2 yr. 1907)              Conrad   (Coonie) Born 8/24/1910 (married Sylvia Kent, Wa.)   Emigrated to Quebec , Canada 1913 SS Assonia via Southampton to St. Albans Crossing then on to Alberta              Benjamin    Born 1914 in Calgary , Canada Died 2/2/1976 (married Amelia Bury?) Emigrated to Sweet Grass Montana 1915 Children: All born in Billings Montana               Emma    Born 3/5/1916 married Herb Mattox, Ca. (both deceased)               Emile (changed to Amil)    Born 4/5/1918 (married Vivian)               Martha    Born 8/26/1921 (my Mother) (Married Arthur Stenson, Seattle , Wa .) Moved to Toppenish , Wa . 1922 (Farmers)   After the death of my Grandfather, my Grandmother married John Whitman, who died 6/1927, then she married Jacob Koch in 1929.   My Aunts & Uncles who were born in Bethanien (from an old Nat’l Geographic map) which was near Priozerskoye , Russia ( Ukraine ). Their father (Christian Wiederspahn) had a wine route beginning in the city of Astrakhan & extending through Armavir, Krasnodar , & Tbilisi .        Prior to 1912, the Pastor of their Lutheran Church in Russia warned of an impending war & urged all who could, to immigrate to America . In 1912 the family, now composed of five children & a sixth   on the way (Benjamin) they found themselves on a large charter ship (SS Assonia or Ausonia) enroute to Canada. After eleven days of stormy seas & sea sickness, the family debarked & resumed by train a trip to Calgary .      In a remote wilderness of the interior of Canada , all but one car & the engine of the   overloaded train jumped the track killing & injuring some of the passengers. The family was badly shaken, they lay by the track all night while the engine sought help ahead.      On April 12, 1912 , they finally reached Calgary & were met by a dear aunt & uncle who had just lost their four children within one week to diphtheria. They began their new life facing the challenges of a very different language & customs.      My Grandfather, Jacob Hofferber, found menial work & studied English at night to improve his situation while the children attended church school. Mornings were devoted to religious subjects with English & other subjects taught   in the afternoon. Because of the many silent letters in the English language, it was difficult to master.      After two years in Canada , the two families decided to move to Billings , Mt. & again farmed. Then in 1922, the families decided to move further to eastern Washington settling in Toppenish, Wapato, Yakima , Ahtanum.   NOTES: 1.          I have the Death Certificate for   my Uncle Jacob Hofferber with a different death date of 4/8/1923 , only states that he was born in Russia ,   but it has his Father listed as Conrad Hoffarber & Mother listed as Lydia Zimmer. It was signed by Johana Kukes. It doesn’t’ t quite gel with the family tree info. I have sent for my Uncle Ray’s death certificate, it should arrive shortly. 2.          My Grandparents do show up on the St. Albans Crossing list, it looks like a Lesser, age 66, may have traveled with them to Canada .      3.          I recently located a Granddaughter of my Uncle Jake in Tacoma , Wa . We will try to meet in person soon. 4.          Mabel Kiessling found a ships manifest for the Cunard steam ship SS Ascania which left Southampton , England on the 12 of June, 1913 with the name spelled Hoffaerber. 5.          Grandma had a big picture of “Alexander”, her brother in a Russian uniform. I remember she used to cry when she looked at it saying, “Poor Uncle Alexander.” She did get some mail from sibling(s) written on odd paper (according to my Mom, Martha) & she would cry. Grandma never spoke much about the ‘old country’, we all know why, now, after all these years. 6.          I find many Wiederspahn & Hofferber names spelled many ways that either came from or moved to the Caucasus area. 7.          Louise Potter’s book referencing Hofferber, is not entirely correct as you can see above. The correct information comes from my Mom, Martha, who is the last surviving sibling. 8.            I found a note on one of my many papers that a Kindsfather may have been my Mother’s Godparent. 9.          Grandma always told us she came from Beshtaugorsky.                                         (From family records)   Grandfather: Christian   (or Christoph) Wiederspahn   Born 12/18/1853 Colony Walter Grandmother : Anna Elizabeth Walters    Born 8/15/1852 Colony Walter Children: Catherine Margerita    10/16/1879 Colony Walter (my Grandmother)              Anna Elizabeth    2/6/1884 Colony Walter              Christian    4/6/1886   Colony Bethany              Alexander    3/7/1888 Colony Bethany (probably in Russian military)              Paulina    10/15/1890 Marriage: Catherine Margerita married Jacob Hofferber 9/1898 in Colony Bethany Grandfather: Jacob Hofferber    Born 7/6/1879 ? Colony Bethany Died 7/15/1923 or                           4/8/1923 (his sister married a Lesser?)                                                     Grandmother: Catherine Margarita Wiederspahn    Born 10/16/1879 Died 11/15/1968 Children:   All born Colony Bethany              Conrad (Died at 1yr of age.)              Rheinhold (Ray)   Born 9/26/1901   Died 11/10/1986 married Lydia Lesser              Johanna    Born 12/25/1903   Died 6/2/1999 (married John Kukes Ellensburg, Wa)                                                                                                      Jacob   Jake)    (Born   9/10/1905 or 12/9/1905 (married Amelia Berg Wapato, Wa.                                     After her death he married Marie Ecalbarger Carrier, Wapato , Wa .)                                   Emma    (Died at age 2 yr. 1907)              Conrad   (Coonie) Born 8/24/1910 (married Sylvia Kent, Wa.)   Emigrated to Quebec , Canada 1913 SS Assonia via Southampton to St. Albans Crossing then on to Alberta              Benjamin    Born 1914 in Calgary , Canada Died 2/2/1976 (married Amelia Bury?) Emigrated to Sweet Grass Montana 1915 Children: All born in Billings Montana               Emma    Born 3/5/1916 married Herb Mattox, Ca. (both deceased)               Emile (changed to Amil)    Born 4/5/1918 (married Vivian)               Martha    Born 8/26/1921 (my Mother) (Married Arthur Stenson, Seattle , Wa .) Moved to Toppenish , Wa . 1922 (Farmers)   After the death of my Grandfather, my Grandmother married John Whitman, who died 6/1927, then she married Jacob Koch in 1929.   My Aunts & Uncles who were born in Bethanien (from an old Nat’l Geographic map) which was near Priozerskoye , Russia ( Ukraine ). Their father (Christian Wiederspahn) had a wine route beginning in the city of Astrakhan & extending through Armavir, Krasnodar , & Tbilisi .        Prior to 1912, the Pastor of their Lutheran Church in Russia warned of an impending war & urged all who could, to immigrate to America . In 1912 the family, now composed of five children & a sixth   on the way (Benjamin) they found themselves on a large charter ship (SS Assonia or Ausonia) enroute to Canada. After eleven days of stormy seas & sea sickness, the family debarked & resumed by train a trip to Calgary .      In a remote wilderness of the interior of Canada , all but one car & the engine of the   overloaded train jumped the track killing & injuring some of the passengers. The family was badly shaken, they lay by the track all night while the engine sought help ahead.      On April 12, 1912 , they finally reached Calgary & were met by a dear aunt & uncle who had just lost their four children within one week to diphtheria. They began their new life facing the challenges of a very different language & customs.      My Grandfather, Jacob Hofferber, found menial work & studied English at night to improve his situation while the children attended church school. Mornings were devoted to religious subjects with English & other subjects taught   in the afternoon. Because of the many silent letters in the English language, it was difficult to master.      After two years in Canada , the two families decided to move to Billings , Mt. & again farmed. Then in 1922, the families decided to move further to eastern Washington settling in Toppenish, Wapato, Yakima , Ahtanum.   NOTES: 1.          I have the Death Certificate for   my Uncle Jacob Hofferber with a different death date of 4/8/1923 , only states that he was born in Russia ,   but it has his Father listed as Conrad Hoffarber & Mother listed as Lydia Zimmer. It was signed by Johana Kukes. It doesn’t’ t quite gel with the family tree info. I have sent for my Uncle Ray’s death certificate, it should arrive shortly. 2.          My Grandparents do show up on the St. Albans Crossing list, it looks like a Lesser, age 66, may have traveled with them to Canada .      3.          I recently located a Granddaughter of my Uncle Jake in Tacoma , Wa . We will try to meet in person soon. 4.          Mabel Kiessling found a ships manifest for the Cunard steam ship SS Ascania which left Southampton , England on the 12 of June, 1913 with the name spelled Hoffaerber. 5.          Grandma had a big picture of “Alexander”, her brother in a Russian uniform. I remember she used to cry when she looked at it saying, “Poor Uncle Alexander.” She did get some mail from sibling(s) written on odd paper (according to my Mom, Martha) & she would cry. Grandma never spoke much about the ‘old country’, we all know why, now, after all these years. 6.          I find many Wiederspahn & Hofferber names spelled many ways that either came from or moved to the Caucasus area. 7.          Louise Potter’s book referencing Hofferber, is not entirely correct as you can see above. The correct information comes from my Mom, Martha, who is the last surviving sibling. 8.            I found a note on one of my many papers that a Kindsfather may have been my Mother’s Godparent. 9.          Grandma always told us she came from Beshtaugorsky.

Hello Jerry, Here is the information I have so far on my relatives, any help wil be most appreciated. It's pretty long, but perhaps it will also ring a bell for someone else on the list. Thanks you, for taking an interest in my plight to locate old as well as new relatives. Susan Hubenthal

I am assuming that Johann Jacob Gillig born 12 Oct 1840 is the son of Heinrich Philipp Gillig because Johann Jacob, age 9, is listed in the 1850 census of Grimm as a grandchild of an unnamed son. Heinrich Philipp is listed in the 1834 census of Grimm as a son of Johann Peter Gillig born c1782 in Grimm but he is not found in the 1850 census. Johann Peter had three sons; the other two are still living in the 1850/57 census with their families. It is logical to assume that Heinrich Philipp died before 1850. Perhaps someone else has another theory. Johann Jacob Gillig is my second cousin 3x removed, so I am interested in this family. Dona On 2/3/2011 8:26 PM, Darnell Dingle wrote: > Johan Jacob Gillig born 12 Oct 1840 in Russia; mar (2) Margaret Eliza Linker b 16 Feb 1853 in Russia; mar 25 Dec 1875 in Russia. Immigrated to US in 1886 or 1887 with five of their children. May have lived in Chicago for a time before moving to Kansas. They lived in either Grime or Friedenfeld allegedly near Saratov. > Any ideas about discovering their parents and where the family originally came from in Germany? > Darnell Dingle >

Johan Jacob Gillig born 12 Oct 1840 in Russia; mar (2) Margaret Eliza Linker b 16 Feb 1853 in Russia; mar 25 Dec 1875 in Russia. Immigrated to US in 1886 or 1887 with five of their children. May have lived in Chicago for a time before moving to Kansas. They lived in either Grime or Friedenfeld allegedly near Saratov. Any ideas about discovering their parents and where the family originally came from in Germany? Darnell Dingle -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1416 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hallo List:   Anyone have the following family in their database?   Heinrich/Henry Jacoby/Jacobi, born ca. 1866 Doenhof/Neu-Doenhof, died May 2, 1926 in Chicago, IL. He married Charlotte (possibly Groh) ca. 1895 in Neu-Doenhof.   children: Jacob, ca. 1900 Neu-Doenhof Maria, ca. 1904 Michigan Mollie, ca 1908 Chicago Lottie, ca. 1911 Chicago Henry, ca 1914 Chicago Philipp, ca 1916 Chicago Katie, ca 1918 Chicago   Charlotte Jacoby and son Jacob entered the US at St. Albans, VT in Nov. 1902 after arriving at the port of St. John. They were going to her husband Henry in Chicago.   I cannot find Henry's entry to the US, nor can I find the family in the 1930 Census.   Henry may have been born in Doenhof and moved to Neu-Doenhof as a youngster or he may even have been born in Neu-Doenhof.   I have no clue where Charlotte (possibly Groh) was born.   Hugh Lichtenwald, from the farm in Monetta, SC    

Kay Boynton, I just attended a genealogy expo in Mesa, AZ and went to a DNA workshop conducted by Genetree.com and Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation (SMGF.org). Genetree.com is located in Salt Lake City, UT. You might call them at 1-866-740-6362 and ask if they can collect DNA from a hair sample. Judy Gareis Arizona ----- Original Message ----- From: Kay Boynton<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:02 PM Subject: [GV] DNA contacts I am in search of reputable Geneology-based laboratories, who could trace my ancestors from a hair sample My only sibling (a brother) died in 2005, but I kept one of his hats and removed the inside band. I have a sample of mine also and I could do a saliva swab. That wouold link us together. Has anyone had such experience with this for DNA search? Kay Boynton [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kay Boynton asked: I am in search of reputable Geneology-based laboratories, who could trace my ancestors from a?hair sample My only sibling (a brother) died in 2005, but I kept one of his hats and removed the inside band. I have a sample of mine also and I could do a saliva swab. That wouold link us together. Has anyone had such experience with this for DNA search? Kay Boynton [email protected] My comments: Many Volga German researchers, including myself, have used Family Tree DNA for DNA research.  However, their testing method involves cheek swabs from living people.  I don't know whether they are equipped to do a similar test using a hair sample.  You could call or email them to find out: http://www.familytreedna.com If Family Tree DNA can't help you with the hair sample, I'm sure there is another testing service that could help you.  If you don't receive a recommendation from someone else, I would do a Google search for "DNA testing hair sample" or something similar.  My impression is that this kind of testing is common in paternity cases.  Paternity testing services would be another potential source. David F. Schmidt Village Coordinator for Boaro, Cäsarsfeld & Stahl am Karaman Walnut Creek, CA 94598, USA Email: [email protected]

Pamela: In beginning your research, the first place to go is to AHSGR's German Origins Project:  http://ahsgr.org/FindAncestors/german_origins.htm   which will help identify which village(s) people with these surnames first lived. The next thing you should do is contact the village coordinator (VC) for the villages where these people lived, to see if they can be of help.  The list of VC's is here:  http://ahsgr.org/Villages/village_coordinators.htm When there are multiple villages, one of the best sources for determining where the people came from is the passenger lists when these people immigrated to this country.  Another source is death certificates for the people who immigrated to this country. A complication in determining which village a person was born at is the creation of daughter colonies in the Volga region, between about 1847 and the early 1860's.  There are now translated census records for many daughter colonies indicating who the original settlers were in these daughter colonies.  An additional complication is that people born after about 1860 continued to say that they were from an original colony, when in fact they were born at and lived in a daughter colony.  Gary Martens Dobrinka, Galka, Neu-Weimar & Schilling villages VC ----- Original Message ---- From: Pamela Duggan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 9:25:11 AM Subject: [GV] Vollmer, Russia Hi there, just wondering if you would have any information regarding the  Stang, Weinkauf or Gartner families from this region in Russia.  I have researched on Angela Gartner's website already, I was just wondering if anyone had any further information. Thanks Pamela Duggan (nee Stang) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am in search of reputable Geneology-based laboratories, who could trace my ancestors from a hair sample My only sibling (a brother) died in 2005, but I kept one of his hats and removed the inside band. I have a sample of mine also and I could do a saliva swab. That wouold link us together. Has anyone had such experience with this for DNA search? Kay Boynton [email protected]

Hi there, just wondering if you would have any information regarding the Stang, Weinkauf or Gartner families from this region in Russia. I have researched on Angela Gartner's website already, I was just wondering if anyone had any further information. Thanks Pamela Duggan (nee Stang)

Green, Anna, Oct. 2, 1919- Jan. 25, 2011 Scottsbluff Star Herald Scottsbluff, NE 1 Feb 2011 GLENDALE, Ariz. - Anna Green, 91, formerly of Gering, died Jan. 25, 2011. Her funeral service will be held at 2 p.m. Wednesday, Feb. 2, at the Jolliffe Funeral Home Chapel with Pastor Scott Clark officiating. Private burial will take place at a later time at Fairview Cemetery. Visitation will be held on Wednesday, Feb. 2, from 10 a.m. until service time. Memorials may be made in care of the family to be designated at a later date. Online condolences may be made at www.jolliffefuenralhome.com Jolliffe Funeral Home is assisting the family with arrangements. Anna was born Oct. 2, 1919, in Winnipeg, Canada to Pete and Kathren (Hindrek) Dillman. She and Alex Green were united in marriage May 14, 1939, in Gering. Survivors include her daughter, Marlene (Mel) Ferguson of Peoria, Ariz.; sisters, Leah Dittenber of Scottsbluff and Esther Bauer of Gering; three grandchildren and three great-grandchildren as well as numerous nieces and nephews. Preceding her in death were her parents, husband Alex in 1984, daughter Barbara as well as three brothers and three sisters.