Serghey Small born Sept 29, 1889 Russia (Smolensk ?) Orthodox Died June 26, 1952 Schenectady New York Wife Sophie Raslowski Alternative spelling for Serghey (Sergjnsq, Serzjusq, Serzing or Sergei ?) Trying to locate the brother of Serghey Small, name unknown. Thank you
The book Geschichte der deutschen Kolonien an der Wolga., by Gerhard Bonwetsch is online here: http://books.google.com/books?id=tAbVAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=%22Geschichte+der+deutschen+Kolonien+an+der+wolga%22&source=bl&ots=DkwVv7oSod&sig=sGu7uSETnIWH31stKQXgaFSmw54&hl=en&ei=FcBqTefTFcT68Abq7L2SBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Or go to Google and search on "Geschichte der deutschen Kolonien an der Wolga", in quotes like that, and it will be the first result listed. After you go to the book, click on PDF in the upper right hand corner to save a copy. Gary Martens On 2/27/2011 5:25 AM, William Pickelhaupt wrote: > Neil and Vicki, > The Bonwetsch book is available online as a Google book. If you can > not find it or download it, let me know and I will email the file to > you - it is just less than 5 MB. > Bill Pickelhaupt > > --- On *Sun, 2/27/11, Gary Martens /<[email protected]>/* wrote: > > > From: Gary Martens <[email protected]> > Subject: [GV] Fwd: Re: Emigration to Russia and then Emigration to > the U.S. or elsewhere > To: "GER-VOLGA" <[email protected]> > Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 2:03 AM > > One additional book: > > The Volga Germans - in Russia and the Americas. from 1763 to the > Present, Fred C. Koch, Copyright 1977, The Pennsylvania State > University > Press > > From Koch's book: > > From St. Petersburg, through which all the immigrants had to pass, > the > contingents were rafted up the 45-mile Neva to Lake Ladoga and > thence to > the mouth of the Volkov river. They then coursed southward up this > 130-mile stream into Lake Ilmen. From here most of the parties > portaged > 200 miles or more to the navigable headwaters of the Volga, down > which > they then floated and sailed more than 1100 meandering miles to their > distant destination: Saratov. > > According to Gerhard Bonwetsch (ref 1), none arrived there before the > river froze over, so the pioneers to to spend five - to siz-month > winters housed with natives in Russian villages along the river. > There > were alternate routes, but eventually most of them connected > somewhere > with the Volga. Generally a contingent was en route an entire > year from > the time of enrollment in Germany. > > Ref 1: Bonwetsch, Gerhard, Geschichte der deutschen Kolonien an der > Wolga. Stuttgart: Verlag von J/ Engelhorns Nachf., 1919 > > =========================================================== > > There are certainly going to be books on the history of Germany that > will give a much better picture of the conditions in Germany prior to > immigration. I would hope that Tanya and others who have > knowledge of > the conditions of the peasants in what is now Germany can give > more of a > history, or point to sources available to us in the US, which > detail the > conditions in Germany prior to 1763, prompting people to leave for > Russia. > > Gary Martens > > > On 2/26/2011 9:50 PM, NEIL AND VICKI NUSZ wrote: > > I have a series of questions that have so far been unanswered > that I would > > like to pose to everyone. > > > > I know it took approximately 1 year on average to travel from > the German > > states to their respective assigned villages in Russia. In my > families case > > they left Luebeck in late August 1766 and arrived in Kronstadt, > then to > > Oranienbaum on Sep 13, 1766, wintered there, left in the Spring > of 1767, > > traveled by wagon and maybe boat to Saratov, then finally > arrived in Messer, > > Russia on Sep 14, 1767. All known dates. > > BUT! My questions. > > 1. In my families case, they gathered in Isenburg(I believe the > > Castle Isenburg in the current village of Beudingen) and > enlisted with a > > recruiter from Russia? who? and what records are available, > either Russian > > or German? I still do not know my ancestral village, however, I > have a > > family member in Germany researching. > > 2. How did they travel from Isenburg, to Luebeck? Wagon, > carraige, walk, > > riverboat? > > 3. How long did it take? When did they leave Isenburg? > > 4. Did they have permission from some authority? Who granted the > > authorization? Was there an application? Church approval? Any > records? > > Debts to be paid? Sale of any land owned? > > > > On Leaving Russia, in my case to the U.S. - > > I know when the left Bremerhaven and when they arrived at New > York - April > > 18, 1887. > > My Questions. > > 1. How did they get from Dobrinka to Bremerhaven in Germany? > When did they > > leave? How long did the journey take? . > > Did they use a train from Saratov or go by wagon and or a > riverboat. > > Was it basically the same route as when thery arrived 120 years > earlier? > > 2. Now that they are in New York, how did they get to Kansas > (my families > > case) Train? Any records available? > > 3. How long did this trip take? > > > > If possible, please help me with sources for this information. > Any specific > > books other than Pleve or Kuhlburg Lists, which I already have. > Any help > > would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Neil D. Nusz(s) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > [email protected] > <http://us.mc573.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > <http://us.mc573.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > >
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Schaneman, LeRoy, July 30, 1925- Feb. 25, 2011 Scottsbluff Star Herald Scottsbluff , NE 27 Feb 2011 LeRoy Schaneman, 85, of Gering, died Friday, Feb. 25, 2011, at Regional West Medical Center in Scottsbluff. His funeral service will be held at 10 a.m., Wednesday, March 2, at Central Church of Christ in Gering with Pastor Lyle Heinbauch officiating. Interment will follow at West Lawn Cemetery in Gering with military honors provided by Nebraska Army National Guard. Friends may visit from 9 a.m. to 8 p.m., Tuesday, at Gering Memorial Chapel in Gering. A memorial has been established to the Diabetes Association . Tributes of sympathy may be left at www.geringchapel.com LeRoy was born July 30, 1925, at Minatare, to George and Marie (Dahlinger) Schoeneman. He received his education at country schools including Victory Hill and Longfellow Schools. He being the oldest was then needed to work on the farm to help support the family. He served in the United States Army during World War II, from March 8, 1944 to May 31, 1946. LeRoy was one day out of Scotland when World War II ended and he many times would tease that when Hitler saw LeRoy coming he gave up and committed suicide. He visited a concentration camp and thought what kind of world I live in. One of his jobs was to confiscate guns out of homes in Germany. LeRoy married Mona Mae Louis in 1947 and had two children, Michael and Tamara. He married Mary Jo Wilson May 6, 1962, at Central Church of Christ by Pastor Howard Roseberry. They had two children Michelle and Kevin. He was a member of Central Church of Christ and VFW. Survivors include his wife Mary Jo Schaneman; children, Michael (Domaris) Schaneman, Tamara (Darrell) Taylor, Michelle (Timothy) Perkins, and Kevin (Kari) Schaneman; grandchildren, Tara, Cristine, James, Jennifer, Nikkole, Joshua, Cory, Alyssa, Heather, and Dustin; great-grandchildren, Mallorie, Riley, Brock, and Savannah; brothers and sisters, Florence Kasza, Don (Eunice) Schoeneman, Robert Schoeneman, Lorraine Conrad, Richard (Pepé) Schaneman, Martha (Rev. Arthur) Siegfried, Frances Johnson, and Barbara (Jerry) Tallman; aunts, Martha Dolberg, Ruth Jones and Frieda Goss; and many cousins. LeRoy was preceded in death by his parents, and numerous aunts and uncles.
One additional book: The Volga Germans - in Russia and the Americas. from 1763 to the Present, Fred C. Koch, Copyright 1977, The Pennsylvania State University Press From Koch's book: From St. Petersburg, through which all the immigrants had to pass, the contingents were rafted up the 45-mile Neva to Lake Ladoga and thence to the mouth of the Volkov river. They then coursed southward up this 130-mile stream into Lake Ilmen. From here most of the parties portaged 200 miles or more to the navigable headwaters of the Volga, down which they then floated and sailed more than 1100 meandering miles to their distant destination: Saratov. According to Gerhard Bonwetsch (ref 1), none arrived there before the river froze over, so the pioneers to to spend five - to siz-month winters housed with natives in Russian villages along the river. There were alternate routes, but eventually most of them connected somewhere with the Volga. Generally a contingent was en route an entire year from the time of enrollment in Germany. Ref 1: Bonwetsch, Gerhard, Geschichte der deutschen Kolonien an der Wolga. Stuttgart: Verlag von J/ Engelhorns Nachf., 1919 =========================================================== There are certainly going to be books on the history of Germany that will give a much better picture of the conditions in Germany prior to immigration. I would hope that Tanya and others who have knowledge of the conditions of the peasants in what is now Germany can give more of a history, or point to sources available to us in the US, which detail the conditions in Germany prior to 1763, prompting people to leave for Russia. Gary Martens On 2/26/2011 9:50 PM, NEIL AND VICKI NUSZ wrote: > I have a series of questions that have so far been unanswered that I would > like to pose to everyone. > > I know it took approximately 1 year on average to travel from the German > states to their respective assigned villages in Russia. In my families case > they left Luebeck in late August 1766 and arrived in Kronstadt, then to > Oranienbaum on Sep 13, 1766, wintered there, left in the Spring of 1767, > traveled by wagon and maybe boat to Saratov, then finally arrived in Messer, > Russia on Sep 14, 1767. All known dates. > BUT! My questions. > 1. In my families case, they gathered in Isenburg(I believe the > Castle Isenburg in the current village of Beudingen) and enlisted with a > recruiter from Russia? who? and what records are available, either Russian > or German? I still do not know my ancestral village, however, I have a > family member in Germany researching. > 2. How did they travel from Isenburg, to Luebeck? Wagon, carraige, walk, > riverboat? > 3. How long did it take? When did they leave Isenburg? > 4. Did they have permission from some authority? Who granted the > authorization? Was there an application? Church approval? Any records? > Debts to be paid? Sale of any land owned? > > On Leaving Russia, in my case to the U.S. - > I know when the left Bremerhaven and when they arrived at New York - April > 18, 1887. > My Questions. > 1. How did they get from Dobrinka to Bremerhaven in Germany? When did they > leave? How long did the journey take? . > Did they use a train from Saratov or go by wagon and or a riverboat. > Was it basically the same route as when thery arrived 120 years earlier? > 2. Now that they are in New York, how did they get to Kansas (my families > case) Train? Any records available? > 3. How long did this trip take? > > If possible, please help me with sources for this information. Any specific > books other than Pleve or Kuhlburg Lists, which I already have. Any help > would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Neil D. Nusz(s) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Neil and Vicki, The Bonwetsch book is available online as a Google book. If you can not find it or download it, let me know and I will email the file to you - it is just less than 5 MB. Bill Pickelhaupt --- On Sun, 2/27/11, Gary Martens <[email protected]> wrote: From: Gary Martens <[email protected]> Subject: [GV] Fwd: Re: Emigration to Russia and then Emigration to the U.S. or elsewhere To: "GER-VOLGA" <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 2:03 AM One additional book: The Volga Germans - in Russia and the Americas. from 1763 to the Present, Fred C. Koch, Copyright 1977, The Pennsylvania State University Press >From Koch's book: >From St. Petersburg, through which all the immigrants had to pass, the contingents were rafted up the 45-mile Neva to Lake Ladoga and thence to the mouth of the Volkov river. They then coursed southward up this 130-mile stream into Lake Ilmen. From here most of the parties portaged 200 miles or more to the navigable headwaters of the Volga, down which they then floated and sailed more than 1100 meandering miles to their distant destination: Saratov. According to Gerhard Bonwetsch (ref 1), none arrived there before the river froze over, so the pioneers to to spend five - to siz-month winters housed with natives in Russian villages along the river. There were alternate routes, but eventually most of them connected somewhere with the Volga. Generally a contingent was en route an entire year from the time of enrollment in Germany. Ref 1: Bonwetsch, Gerhard, Geschichte der deutschen Kolonien an der Wolga. Stuttgart: Verlag von J/ Engelhorns Nachf., 1919 =========================================================== There are certainly going to be books on the history of Germany that will give a much better picture of the conditions in Germany prior to immigration. I would hope that Tanya and others who have knowledge of the conditions of the peasants in what is now Germany can give more of a history, or point to sources available to us in the US, which detail the conditions in Germany prior to 1763, prompting people to leave for Russia. Gary Martens On 2/26/2011 9:50 PM, NEIL AND VICKI NUSZ wrote: > I have a series of questions that have so far been unanswered that I would > like to pose to everyone. > > I know it took approximately 1 year on average to travel from the German > states to their respective assigned villages in Russia. In my families case > they left Luebeck in late August 1766 and arrived in Kronstadt, then to > Oranienbaum on Sep 13, 1766, wintered there, left in the Spring of 1767, > traveled by wagon and maybe boat to Saratov, then finally arrived in Messer, > Russia on Sep 14, 1767. All known dates. > BUT! My questions. > 1. In my families case, they gathered in Isenburg(I believe the > Castle Isenburg in the current village of Beudingen) and enlisted with a > recruiter from Russia? who? and what records are available, either Russian > or German? I still do not know my ancestral village, however, I have a > family member in Germany researching. > 2. How did they travel from Isenburg, to Luebeck? Wagon, carraige, walk, > riverboat? > 3. How long did it take? When did they leave Isenburg? > 4. Did they have permission from some authority? Who granted the > authorization? Was there an application? Church approval? Any records? > Debts to be paid? Sale of any land owned? > > On Leaving Russia, in my case to the U.S. - > I know when the left Bremerhaven and when they arrived at New York - April > 18, 1887. > My Questions. > 1. How did they get from Dobrinka to Bremerhaven in Germany? When did they > leave? How long did the journey take? . > Did they use a train from Saratov or go by wagon and or a riverboat. > Was it basically the same route as when thery arrived 120 years earlier? > 2. Now that they are in New York, how did they get to Kansas (my families > case) Train? Any records available? > 3. How long did this trip take? > > If possible, please help me with sources for this information. Any specific > books other than Pleve or Kuhlburg Lists, which I already have. Any help > would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Neil D. Nusz(s) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Books; From Catherine to Khrushchev - The Story of Russia's Germans, by Adam Giesinger, American Historical Society of Germans from Russia, copyright 1974 by Adam Giesinger, Winnipeg, Manitoba From Privileged to Dispossessed - The Volga Germans, 1860 - 1917, James W. Long, Copyright 1968, University of Nebraska Press The Czar's Germans - With Particular Reference to the Volga Germans, Hattie Plum Williams, Copyright 1975, published under the auspices of the American Historical Society of Germans from Russia The German Colonies on the Lower Volga - Their Origin and Early Development, by Gottlieb Beratz, completed by Gottlieb Beratz in 1914, American Historical Society of Germans from Russia Germans and German-Russians in Nebraska, by Janet Warkentin Rife, 1980, Center for Great Plains Studies, University of Nebraska - Lincoln. The Open Wound - The Genocide of German Ethnic Minorities in Russia and the Soviet Union 1915-1949 - And Beyond, Samuel D. Sinner, Copyright 2000, Germans from Russia Heritage Collection Gary Martens On 2/26/2011 9:50 PM, NEIL AND VICKI NUSZ wrote: > I have a series of questions that have so far been unanswered that I would > like to pose to everyone. > > I know it took approximately 1 year on average to travel from the German > states to their respective assigned villages in Russia. In my families case > they left Luebeck in late August 1766 and arrived in Kronstadt, then to > Oranienbaum on Sep 13, 1766, wintered there, left in the Spring of 1767, > traveled by wagon and maybe boat to Saratov, then finally arrived in Messer, > Russia on Sep 14, 1767. All known dates. > BUT! My questions. > 1. In my families case, they gathered in Isenburg(I believe the > Castle Isenburg in the current village of Beudingen) and enlisted with a > recruiter from Russia? who? and what records are available, either Russian > or German? I still do not know my ancestral village, however, I have a > family member in Germany researching. > 2. How did they travel from Isenburg, to Luebeck? Wagon, carraige, walk, > riverboat? > 3. How long did it take? When did they leave Isenburg? > 4. Did they have permission from some authority? Who granted the > authorization? Was there an application? Church approval? Any records? > Debts to be paid? Sale of any land owned? > > On Leaving Russia, in my case to the U.S. - > I know when the left Bremerhaven and when they arrived at New York - April > 18, 1887. > My Questions. > 1. How did they get from Dobrinka to Bremerhaven in Germany? When did they > leave? How long did the journey take? . > Did they use a train from Saratov or go by wagon and or a riverboat. > Was it basically the same route as when thery arrived 120 years earlier? > 2. Now that they are in New York, how did they get to Kansas (my families > case) Train? Any records available? > 3. How long did this trip take? > > If possible, please help me with sources for this information. Any specific > books other than Pleve or Kuhlburg Lists, which I already have. Any help > would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Neil D. Nusz(s) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I have a series of questions that have so far been unanswered that I would like to pose to everyone. I know it took approximately 1 year on average to travel from the German states to their respective assigned villages in Russia. In my families case they left Luebeck in late August 1766 and arrived in Kronstadt, then to Oranienbaum on Sep 13, 1766, wintered there, left in the Spring of 1767, traveled by wagon and maybe boat to Saratov, then finally arrived in Messer, Russia on Sep 14, 1767. All known dates. BUT! My questions. 1. In my families case, they gathered in Isenburg(I believe the Castle Isenburg in the current village of Beudingen) and enlisted with a recruiter from Russia? who? and what records are available, either Russian or German? I still do not know my ancestral village, however, I have a family member in Germany researching. 2. How did they travel from Isenburg, to Luebeck? Wagon, carraige, walk, riverboat? 3. How long did it take? When did they leave Isenburg? 4. Did they have permission from some authority? Who granted the authorization? Was there an application? Church approval? Any records? Debts to be paid? Sale of any land owned? On Leaving Russia, in my case to the U.S. - I know when the left Bremerhaven and when they arrived at New York - April 18, 1887. My Questions. 1. How did they get from Dobrinka to Bremerhaven in Germany? When did they leave? How long did the journey take? . Did they use a train from Saratov or go by wagon and or a riverboat. Was it basically the same route as when thery arrived 120 years earlier? 2. Now that they are in New York, how did they get to Kansas (my families case) Train? Any records available? 3. How long did this trip take? If possible, please help me with sources for this information. Any specific books other than Pleve or Kuhlburg Lists, which I already have. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Neil D. Nusz(s)
Judy&Peter, The name Grasnncha is most probably correctly spelled as Gryasnukha or Grasnukha, as suggested by Gary Martens. The 'ch' in German corresponds to 'kh' in English. The little difference often causes some confusion, when people spell out some place names containing the Russian word 'khutor' as 'chutor'. Chutor is the German spelling of 'khutor' which typically refers to a small farm in Southern Russia. Regards, Tanja Schell --- On Sat, 2/26/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 52 To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 3:00 AM Today's Topics: 1. Grasnncha, Russia (Pete & Judy Kaland) 2. Re: Grasnncha, Russia (Gary Martens) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:27:29 -0600 From: "Pete & Judy Kaland" <[email protected]> Subject: [GV] Grasnncha, Russia To: "GER-VOLGA" <[email protected]>, "GERMANRUSSIANS" <[email protected]>, "GER-GENEALOGY" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I found a Weber relative of ours that Grasnncha, Russia, was given as the birthplace. They should have been born in Schulz, Russia. Does anyone recognize or know where this place is? Judy Kaland ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:44:06 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Martens <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GV] Grasnncha, Russia To: Pete & Judy Kaland <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Other names for the village of Schulz were:? Lugovaya Grasnukha, Lugovaya Gryaznukha, Lugovskoye, Lugowaja Gr?snucha, Schultz, Schulz Gary Martens From: Pete & Judy Kaland <[email protected]> To: GER-VOLGA <[email protected]>; GERMANRUSSIANS <[email protected]>; GER-GENEALOGY <[email protected]> Cc: Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: [GV] Grasnncha, Russia I found a Weber relative of ours that Grasnncha, Russia, was given as the birthplace.? They should have been born in Schulz, Russia.? Does anyone recognize or know where this place is? Judy Kaland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the GER-VOLGA list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the GER-VOLGA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 6, Issue 52 ****************************************
Other names for the village of Schulz were: Lugovaya Grasnukha, Lugovaya Gryaznukha, Lugovskoye, Lugowaja Gräsnucha, Schultz, Schulz Gary Martens From: Pete & Judy Kaland <[email protected]> To: GER-VOLGA <[email protected]>; GERMANRUSSIANS <[email protected]>; GER-GENEALOGY <[email protected]> Cc: Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: [GV] Grasnncha, Russia I found a Weber relative of ours that Grasnncha, Russia, was given as the birthplace. They should have been born in Schulz, Russia. Does anyone recognize or know where this place is? Judy Kaland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I found a Weber relative of ours that Grasnncha, Russia, was given as the birthplace. They should have been born in Schulz, Russia. Does anyone recognize or know where this place is? Judy Kaland
Kuhlman, David, Dec. 13, 1918- Feb. 21, 2011 Scottsbluff Star Herald Scottsbluff, NE 24 Feb 2011 KIMBALL - David Kuhlman, 92, died peacefully at his home Monday, Feb. 21, 2011. Funeral Services will be held at 10 a.m. Friday, Feb. 25, at St. John's Lutheran Church with Pastor Kenneth Mars officiating and Brent Kuhlman, STM assisting. Burial will be held at Kimball Cemetery. Friends may call at the Cantrell Funeral Home Thursday, Feb. 24, from 1 to 6 p.m. Memorials have been established in David's honor to St. John's Lutheran Church. The services have been entrusted to the Cantrell Funeral Home. David was born Dec. 13, 1918, in Scottsbluff, to Fred and Anna (Weber) Kuhlman. He grew up and attended school in Scottsbluff. He married Helen Weinmaster on Dec. 22, 1940, at Torrington, Wyo. They then moved to Kimball, where David farmed for 28 years. In 1946 he had the highest beet average yield production at the Kimball Station. He then went to work for the City of Kimball at the power plant as an operator until his retirement in 1992. David helped build the St. John's Lutheran Church and when times were lean with farming he worked in the potato cellars through the winters. He enjoyed spending time outdoors and was always busy doing something. David especially enjoyed spending time with his family and friends. Survivors include his wife of 70 years, Helen; children, Arnold (Dixie) Kuhlman of Cheyenne, Wyo., Robert (Anita) Kuhlman of Casper, Wyo., Bev (Charlie) Goins of Skiatook, Okla. and Steven Kuhlman of Colorado Springs, Colo.; eight grandchildren and nine great-grandchildren; brother, Jacob Kuhlman and sister, Mary Spencer. Preceding him in death were his parents; granddaughter, Summer Dawn Kuhlman; brothers, Henry and Fred and sisters, Esther, Kate Schwindt and Anna Martin.
Dear Colleagues and Fellow G-R Researchers: Just wanted you to know about a new publication that has hit bookstores and newsstands in Germany and other parts of Europe and abroad. It is a special issue of the well-known German news magazine, DER SPIEGEL. The entire issue is devoted to articles and maps and pictures dealing with "DIE DEUTSCHEN IM OSTEN" (The Germans in the East). There is a historical map on pages 16-17 that clearly shows areas of former ethnic German settlement in Russia, Ukraine, Poland, and other countries in "the East." Of special interest is a beautifully-illustrated article about the Germans in Russia on pages 54-59. A few of the photos are ones I have not seen published previously. There is also a portrait gallery (pp. 138-139) that profiles several well-known German citizens who have ethnic roots "in the East." These include Bessarabian German Horst Koehler, Nobel Prize winner Reinhard Selten, and the famous movie actor Armin Mueller-Stahl. This entire issue runs 146 pages and sells for 7.50 Euro. Copies may be obtained by contacting major bookstores in the U.S. and Canada (for special orders). Or for more information, write to the e-mail address of DER SPIEGEL (based in Hamburg, Germany): [email protected] This special issue undoubtedly will help educate many German citizens about the history and sufferings of ethnic Germans from Russia and other lands. As many of you know, these "resettlers" are now living in many parts of Germany and facing no small amount of prejudice and misunderstanding. I am deeply indebted to my dear friends in Germany, Wolfgang and Suzanne, who recently sent me a copy of this publication. Best Wishes, Tim Dr. Timothy J. Kloberdanz Professor Emeritus North Dakota State University (Fargo)
Dear Fellow Volga-Germans, Ive searched diligently, yet unsuccessfully, to locate my Great-great-grandfather. Could any of you please assist me in my quest of finding him and his son (my Great-uncle)? I dont even know my Great-great-grandfathers given name or precisely where he was from in Russia. However, I do know the following about 2 of his children: 1. John Geist b.2 Jan 1881 in Kamenka, Saratov, Russia. a. John was married to Barbara Beier in Kamenka, Saratov, Russia. b. John died 26 June 1948 in Topeka, KS. 2. Margaret Ivanovo Geist b. 20 June 1887 a. Margaret married Anton Gottfried Heit. b. Margaret died in Kinsley, KS 2 March 1969. Moreover, Im searching for an UNKNOWN Brother Geist of the aforementioned Geists. All that is known of him, is that after the Geist Family escaped from Hildman, Saratov, Russia under cover of darkness in December 1920 their journey to the USA stalled-out in Germany for 1½ years. It was during this time frame (1921-22) that the UNKNOWN brother departed for South America. Any assistance that you could provide in helping me trace my Great-great-grandfather, and Great-uncle, would be greatly appreciated. Blessings, Joseph M. Geist Overland Park, KS
Sheila; You won't find your family in the Kuhlberg Book since they only listed colonists arriving from Lübeck to Oranienbaum starting in May of 1766, during the heaviest migration. It usually took a year for processing and travel to reach the Volga villages from Orienbaum. Both of your families arrived in June of 1766, so they left Germany in 1765 and may have gone by a different route. This was common for the colonist that signed with the French recruiters. In your case, both families went to Mariental in the Volga. The Pleve series, "Einwanderung in das Wolgagebiet", volume 3, has Mariental which was established by recruiters LeRoy and Pictet. It shows Nicolaus Asselborn (born 1716) (#38) was a Katholic farmer from Merzig, Kurtrier, his second wife Maria Magdalena (born 1736) and their daughter Katharina (b.1765). Also shown are two sons from his first wife, Bartolomäus (1749) and Johannes (b 1752). They arrived in Mariental on 14 Jun 1766. A third son of his first wife was already married and traveling in the same group. Family member #75 has Peter Asselborn (b. 1743) and his wife Susanna (b 1744). The origin, occupation, religion and day of arrival is the same as his father Nicolaus. "Linenberger" is a phonetic misspelling of the name "Lüneberg". In Mariental #24, we have Georg Lüneberg (b.1715). He was a Katholic farmer from Willebadessen. His wife was Anna Margaretha (b.1725) and sons Kaspar Joseph (b1751) and Johann Georg (b1765) were listed. They arrived in Mariental on 16 June 1766. In 1798, the name was still spelled Lüneberg. The first record of the name Linenberger was in the Daughter Colony of Liebental, south of Louis. The Linenbergers and Asselborns were among the first settlers of Liebental 1857/1861. That village may have your connecting families to Mariental. Contact Darrell Brungardt or Kevin Rupp for that information. If you are interested in the village of your ancestors, I found them. Merzig is south east of Luxemburg and northeast of Metz. In the German Map Guides, Merzig shows up in the Kingdom of Prussia-Province of Rhineland III, Volume 13 of the series. Merzig was in the Kreis Merzig and it had its own Catholic church parish and an LDS-FHC microfilm number 469164. If you want to purchase Volume 13 of the German Map Guides by Kevan Hansen, it is available from < www.familyrootspublishing.com >. I found Willebadessen also. It is southeast of Paderborn, northwest of Kassel and North of Warburg. I haven't had time to check the Map Guides to see which volume would have Willebadessen. I hope this helps in your research. Jerry Goertzen
Hello Everyone; Here is a letter which I received recently. Best Wishes, Horst Gutsche January 14, 2011 Dear Pastor Gutsche, Thank-you for your letter of December 12, 2010. Thanks be to God - things are going well in our congregation. The Lord has aided us in winning a victory in a four-year battle against some local people. We were able to save our church building from sale to merchants who had the intention of building a 22 story building here. One tried to get our congregation to move from the building. Certainly we have people who would like to emigrate since there is much unrighteousness and unemployment is growing. Our organist Antonina asked me to ask you what was necessary for immigration to Canada and if there would be a guarantee that she would have work and a residence in Canada. She is raising a 12 year old son on her own and for this reason it is important to find out more about the things that have to do with emigration. And we ask you very kindly to report to us about everything what she and other church attenders here who would like to emigrate to Canada can be expected to encounter. I am sending you a photo of our church orchestra; Antonia is the second to the right next to her son. We send warm greetings to you and your congregation. May all of you remain in the care of God. Warmly connected to you; Pastor W. Emmerich and the congregation in Yalta. P.S. Please find enclosed my text of the song about Yalta; the melody is from Santa Lucia. By the words: I've come back home" I mean the coming of Our Lord. Sincerely Yours. 1. Wonderful Black Sea, azure seascape, wind fondles white sails on the sea's nape. Refrain: Waves kiss our salted land, amazing Yalta, amazing Yalta, amazing Yalta. 2. Shapely Ai Petri, Rocks of Gurzuf, meet the lovely sun, with a happy smile. Refrain: 3. Cool spring refreshes, with crystal water, a fairytale castle, flies as the seagull. Refrain: 4. I've come back home, to a native harbour, overcoming blizzards, and breaking storms. Refrain: In German: - the text was written by Walter Emmerich - The Song is called: Herrliches Jalta 1. Schwarzmeer-Wellen, Spielen mit der Sonne, Wind kost die Segel, mit grosser Wonne. Refrain: Herrliches Jalta, heilige Erde, kuessen die Wellen in der Morgenroethe. 2. Schlanker Ai-Petri, die Felsen von Gursuf, gruessen den Morgen, mit froehlichem Laecheln. Refrain: 3. Ein Maerchenschloss hebt, sich stolz gen Himmel, der Brunnen erfrischet, die trockenen Kehlen. Refrain: 4. Ich bin zurueck, im Heimathafen, durch Wind und Sturm, nun angelandet. Refrain:
Mary: I refer you to the book "The Open Wound - The Genocide of German Ethnic Minorities in Russia and the Soviet Union, 1915-1949" by Dr. Samuel Sinner, published by North Dakota State University, 2000. In that book you find sections titled: World War I - The Internal Foe, 1915-1917 Expropriation Legislation, 1915-1917 Extermination under Cloak of Deportation, 1915-1916 The Age of the Great Massacres Atrocities in the Volga Region Scope and Extent of the Massacres, 1918-1925 Enforced Starvation, 1920-1925 The Russian Germans and the Famine of 1920-1925 Tsarist and Communist Treatment of German Ethnic Groups ... and more, and more Sorry, but when governments like the Communist that took over Russia in 1917 starve, murder, exterminate and excile people, they don't keep records that are now open to the public. Gary Martens Dobrinka, Galka, Neu-Weimar & Schilling villages VC On 2/21/2011 8:38 PM, MARY JANE BOLTON wrote: > > > My family is from Walter, Russia. My grandfather Johannes Klippert b:1889 left Walter with my grandmother and 2 sons in 1912. He left behind 2 sisters at the time Magdalena b:1895 and Elizabeth b:1891. In the 1970's the red cross sent my uncle a letter which I have never seen that said one of them had died in Siberia. > > My question: are they any lists that I can look at or resources to seach for this information?? > > Thank you in advance, > Mary B. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
My family is from Walter, Russia. My grandfather Johannes Klippert b:1889 left Walter with my grandmother and 2 sons in 1912. He left behind 2 sisters at the time Magdalena b:1895 and Elizabeth b:1891. In the 1970's the red cross sent my uncle a letter which I have never seen that said one of them had died in Siberia. My question: are they any lists that I can look at or resources to seach for this information?? Thank you in advance, Mary B.
Mary Jane, Do you have any idea if they married and what their married name was? On the Memorial website, there are many Klipperts from the village of Walter (sometimes spelled Valter by my Google Translator). I don't find a Magdalena Klippert, but there is an Elizabeth Klippert Yegorovna born, however, in 1902. Bill Pickelhaupt --- On Mon, 2/21/11, MARY JANE BOLTON <[email protected]> wrote: From: MARY JANE BOLTON <[email protected]> Subject: [GV] FW: seeking information To: [email protected] Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 6:38 PM My family is from Walter, Russia. My grandfather Johannes Klippert b:1889 left Walter with my grandmother and 2 sons in 1912. He left behind 2 sisters at the time Magdalena b:1895 and Elizabeth b:1891. In the 1970's the red cross sent my uncle a letter which I have never seen that said one of them had died in Siberia. My question: are they any lists that I can look at or resources to seach for this information?? Thank you in advance, Mary B. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I purchased the Kuhlberg ship records and I did not find Asselborns or Linenburgers. Can someone tell me if there are other ship records resources available? Thanks Sheila Kreutzer Derevage