Contact me for further information. ..............Brent............ Brent Mai, University Librarian Director, Center for Volga German Studies http://cvgs.cu-portland.edu Concordia University Portland, Oregon 1857 Graf Surnames (with maiden names) Aselborn Bach Bader Bardes Becker Beil Berg Bless Boes Bolg Bollig Brandt Breit Brungardt Buchholz Dack Dahlheimer Dechant Donau Doppler Dörfler Döringer Dreiling Eberle Felger Flehr Fratz Geier Gerber Gesnitz Getner Glocker Götz Graf Haas Hardinger Hartmann Heckel Heile Hein Hepp Hergert Herrhauser Herrman Hoffman Hoffstetter Jost Kenner Kinderknecht Kirchgessner Klein Klephan Knoll Kohl Kohlmann Krämer Kreitzer Krieger Kuhn Lauber Lederhos Leidecker Mai Meier Meis Mohr Muti Naab Niedermeier Niederquell Niernberger Orlov Otue Paul Post Reim Rein Richmeier Rohleder Ruder Schäfer Schamne Schmidt Schönberger Schreiber Schreiner Schuld Schuler Schuvie Spiess Springer Stork Strach Stürtzer Sutner There Von Feldt Wagner Walter Wasinger Weigel Wilhelm Windholz Wittmann Zimmermann Movement to Herzog is noted

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Schuldies, Betty Jane, December 2, 1938- March 30, 2011 Scottsbluff Star Herald Scottsbluff, NE 5 Apr 2011 Betty Jane Schuldies, 72, of Scottsbluff died Wednesday, March 30, at Heritage Estates in Gering. Funeral services will be 10 a.m. Monday, April 4, at Zion Evangelical Church with Pastor Garry Schick officiating. The family requests casual dress at the service. Interment will be in Fairview Cemetery. Memorials have been established to Zion Evangelical Church and Tails of Love. Friends may call at Dugan-Kramer Funeral Chapel from 1 to 6 p.m. Sunday and one hour prior to the service at the church. Tributes of sympathy may be left at www.dugankramer.com. Betty was born December 2, 1938, in Mitchell to Conrad and Amelia (Leider) Schuldies. She graduated from Scottsbluff High School in 1958. Betty was a parking meter maid for the City of Scottsbluff for nine-teen years, owned and operated BKJ Cleaning and owned Michael's LTD for four years. Betty met Everett "Junior" Fulk when she was a senior in high school. He was the love of her life and constant companion for over 50 years. Since 1958, Junior and Betty managed and played for the Taylor Tots softball team for numerous years. For several years softball was her whole life. She was an inspiration and helped a lot of young people get started in community youth softball and baseball activities. Betty was a commissioner for Amateur Softball Association and board member for Panhandle Humane Society and Tails of Love. She also was an avid bowler. She is survived by the love of her life Junior Fulk; nephews: Tim, Mike, and Bill Schuldies; niece Linda and great nieces and nephews, and the entire Fulk family. She was preceded in death by her parents, brother Ray and niece Jeanne Conrad Schuldies.

Kaufman, Carol, March 3, 1949- March 30, 2011 Scottsbluff Star Herald Scottsbluff, NE 5 Apr 2011 Carol Kaufman, 62, of Scottsbluff, died Wednesday, March 30, 2011, at her home. Memorial services will be 2 p.m. Wednesday, April 6, at Calvary Lutheran Church in Scottsbluff with Pastor Larry Spomer officiating. A memorial has been established to Festival of Hope. Cremation was held at Sunset Memorial Park Crematory. Dugan-Kramer Funeral Chapel is in charge of the arrangements. Tributes of sympathy may be left at www.dugankramer.com. Carol was born March 3, 1949 in Duluth, Minn., to George and Alice (Dahlman) Brady. She graduated from Central High School in Duluth. She met and later married Steve Kaufman in Duluth April 15, 1967. In 1976 Carol and Steve moved to Scottsbluff to farm in the Haig area. Carol worked for Panhandle Coop as a cashier for many years, Pay-n-Pak until they closed and then for ZM Lumber until ill health forced her retirement. Carol has been an active and dedicated member of Calvary Lutheran Church since 1976. She was an avid quilter, just like her mother, in the church. She is survived by her husband of 44 years Steve Kaufman; sister: Barbara (Lloyd) Lindquist, Cross Lake, Minn.; daughters: Deeann Melcher, and Dena Kaufman both of Scottsbluff; son: Jason Kaufman, Minneapolis, Minn.; grandchildren: Brandon Fulk, LeeAnna Fulk, Cody Kaufman and Mattysen Kaufman-Marlow; stepgrand-children: David Melcher and Becky Navarro and step great grandchildren: Alliyah, Adrianna, Jaylie, Eva and Eliza; several brothers-in-law, sisters-in-law and numerous nieces and nephews. Carol was preceded in death by her parents stepfather Al, brothers Patrick and Dennis and son-in-law Donald Melcher.

Hauff, Ben, July 16, 1918- March 31, 2011 Billings Gazette Billings, MT 5 Apr 2011 Longtime Billings resident Ben Hauff was called home to his Lord and Savior on March 31, 2011, at age 92. He was born on the Hauff homestead in Rosenfeld Township of Sheridan County, N.D., on July 16, 1918, the son of Emanuel and Karolina Hauff. Shortly after Ben's birth, his mother Karolina passed away, leaving him in the care of his aunt, Magdalena Jans. He was raised in the home of Simon and Magdalena Jans, attending school in Rosenfeld Township through the eighth grade. Ben attended Drake High School, graduating in 1936. Upon graduation, he entered the Civilian Conservation Corp for a time, and traveled to California with his friend Martin Isaak, working and living with his brothers Gottlieb, Dave and Emil. After returning to the farm in North Dakota, he later began a courtship with Freeda Ponto, who was visiting with her sister in North Dakota. Ben and Freeda were married on Sept. 26, 1940, at Knox Church Manse, Lloydminster, Alberta. They spent the next several months securing Freeda's legal papers from Canadian and U.S. Immigration Services. At last, Freeda was able to join Ben on the farm in North Dakota during late February of 1941. They later purchased the Simon Jans' farm south of Drake, N.D., and began raising a family, farming until 1958. The family moved to Drake, where Ben operated a Mobil service station and the Restview Motel. He later worked for Investor Diversified Services and moved to Bismarck, N.D., for several years. In 1965, Ben and Freeda moved to Billings, where Ben continued with IDS. Following his employment with IDS, he worked with Frontier Fabrics, traveling throughout Montana, Wyoming, North and South Dakota. After his employment with Frontier Fabrics, he became a contractor, building homes in the Billings area for many years. He had great pride in the communities in which he lived, serving on the local School Board, and was active in community affairs. He was a primary organizer in two rural telephone companies, and helped organize the REA, which provided electric power to farms and rural areas of North Dakota. Ben served on his local Election Board in North Dakota for many years. He was a student of history and would discuss politics at every opportunity. As a strong supporter of our Constitutional Republic, he was a true patriot. Ben loved the Lord, having been involved in Baptist churches in both North Dakota and Montana. He served as a Sunday school teacher and deacon, and was active in the building and construction of the original Westside Baptist and Rimrock Baptist Church in Billings. He was active with the Gideons, and a supporter of the Yellowstone Boys and Girls Ranch. He was always ready to help someone in need. He was devoted to his family. Ben and Freeda were married for more than 69 years. Ben is survived by son Al (Dee) of Billings; daughter Bonnie Peda of Billings; grandsons Greg Hauff of Laurel, Daniel Peda of San Diego, Kyle Peda of Rochester, Minn., Michael Peda of Newport, Wash., Bradley Peda of Seattle, Erik Hauff, currently serving with the U.S. Army in Afghanistan; granddaughters Anita Hauff of Huntley, Melissa Peda of Seattle; and 12 great-grandchildren. Ben is also survived by special friend and companion, Lois Young; and numerous nieces and nephews. He is preceded in death by his wife, Freeda; both parents; four brothers and four sisters; and his son-in-law, Arlon. Dad, Grandpa, companion and friend, you will be missed greatly. Our family will not be the same without you. You have outlived all of your siblings and most of your friends. We know you are with your Lord Jesus Christ and are at peace basking in His light. Services will be at 2 p.m. Saturday, April 9, at Smith West Chapel, 304 34th St. West. Interment will follow at Terrace Gardens Cemetery. Viewing will be from 7 to 9 p.m. Friday, April 8, and prior to services on Saturday. Memorials may be sent to the Yellowstone Boys and Girls Ranch, 1732 S. 72nd St. West, Billings, MT 59106.

Schlesener, Lorene Mae, Sept. 21, 1920- April 2, 2011 Billings Gazette Billings, MT 5 Apr 2011 Lorene Mae Schlesener, 90, went home to be with her Lord and Savior on Saturday, April 2, 2011, after suffering a stroke. She had been in failing health for several years. She was born on Sept. 21, 1920, in Hope, Kan., to Otto and Selma (Albrecht) Schimming. She was baptized and confirmed in the Lutheran faith. When she was 3, she lost her parents and was brought up by her grandparents. Lorene graduated from high school in Hope in 1938. On Feb. 4, 1940, Lorene was united in marriage to Ellwood Schlesener at St. John's Lutheran Church in Herrington (Lyons Creek), Kan., at the same church where she was baptized and confirmed. Lorene helped her husband as they farmed for 21 years in Kansas before moving to Montana in 1961 to follow her husband who worked on construction of U.S. missile projects. After that work was completed, they moved to the state of Washington, Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico and Utah, where her husband worked on road construction. They retired to Billings in 1978. Lorene was a faithful member of Mt. Olive Lutheran Church. She was also a member Lutheran Women's Missionary League (LWML), and before failing health, she enjoyed working with the quilting group of Mt. Olive. She was preceded in death by her parents in 1923; her husband in 2005; a son, Dennis, in 1988; and her brother, Harold Schimming of Denver. She is survived by her children, Willard (Shirley) Schlesener of Gridley, Calif.; LeRoy (Bev) Schlesener of Laurel; Karen (James) Oset of Billings; and Rod "Boomer" Schlesener of Safford, Ariz. Also surviving are eight grandchildren; 14 great-grandchildren, with one soon to be born; six step-great-grandchildren and nieces and nephews. Visitation will be 1 to 8 p.m. Wednesday, April 6, at Michelotti-Sawyers Mortuary. Funeral services will be at 10 a.m. Thursday, April 7, at Mt. Olive Lutheran Church, 2336 St. John's Ave. Memorials may be made to Mt. Olive Lutheran Church or the Lutheran Hour, 660 Mason Ridge Center, St. Louis, MO 63141-8557.

I am now producing and selling Descendant Charts for people and surnames from the villages Dobrinka, Galka and Schilling. A Descendant Chart is what the charts that Dr. Igor Pleve and his wife Ludmila produce. If you are interesting in a chart like this, and do not subscribe to the Dobrinka, Galka, or Schilling mailing lists, let me know and I'll send you information about getting a chart produced. Gary Martens Dobrinka, Galka, Neu-Weimer & Schilling villages VC

The Protestant church history for the Meadow side of the Volga is finished and will be mailed out in the next couple of days to those of you who have donated to cover translation costs. Trranslation of the Protestant church history for the Hilly side of the Volga has begun. Anyone who would like a copy of this work can donate to the cost of translation. This is not a list of names. It is a history of various parishes and villages within those parishes, and deals with migration as the Mother Colonies became overcrowded along the Volga, as well as other issues. Bill Pickelhaupt

I have come across the term Unterstuetzungskasse several times in a text. It seems to be a State foundation in Russia which was of a charitable nature. This is in pre-WWI Russia. One of its functions appears to have been to make loans or outright grants for the building of churches and other charitable organizations. Is anyone familiar with this organization and how it operated? Thanks. Bill Pickelhaupt Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

Contact me for further information. ..............Brent............ Brent Mai, University Librarian Director, Center for Volga German Studies http://cvgs.cu-portland.edu Concordia University Portland, Oregon 1850 Warenburg Surnames Adolf Andreas Arndt Arnst Bass Becker Bessinger Borger Braun Brehm Brott Bühr Dein Deobold Diener Dinkel Döring Dott Eisner Engelhardt Freund Fuhr Funkner Gerhardt Gerlach Giebelhaus Göbel Grasmick Hammel Hartwig Heff Hess Hironemus Hoppe Horch Hubert Ikstadt Jost Kaiser Kissling Klamm Klein Koch Konstanz Kraft Krämer Kreiter Krikau Künzel Lehmann Leisel Leonhardt Lofing Lorenz Mehler Metzger Molke Müller Nickel Otto Pfeifer Reinwald Roth Rothenberger Rusch Schäfer Scheck Scherer Schiffmann Schmall Schmidt Schneider Schräder Schremler Schütz Schwengel Seibert Simon Spomer Stumpf Trippel Uhl Valentin Vogt Vorat Wagenleiter Weber Weberling Weigand Werner Movement to/from the following colonies: Bauer, Boisroux, & Grimm

Herman, Ronald William, July 6, 1938- March 29, 2011 Billings Gazette Billings, MT 1 Apr 2011 LAUREL — Ronald William Herman, 72, of Laurel, passed away March 29, 2011, during open heart surgery. He was born July 6, 1938, to Fred B. and Katherine (Gomer) Herman in a cabin at Riverside Park in Laurel. He attended school in Laurel, and then joined the U.S. Air Force in 1956. His service time was in Idaho and Alaska, which he loved. After returning from the service, he married the love of his life, Sharon Wittman on June 22, 1963. They had two children and resided in Laurel. Ron worked 33 years in the tire industry, working for Nu-Tread, Interstate Tire and Tire Rama. He loved to go fishing, camping, hunting, and loved to travel, of which he went from Corpus Christi, Texas, all the way to Chicken, Alaska, at the top of the world. He was preceded in death by his parents, one sister and three brothers. Survivors include his loving wife, Sharon, of 47 years; a son, Brian Herman of Billings; a daughter, Charity Wood and her husband Leland of Laurel; a brother, Ed Herman of Billings; a sister, Marion Higbie of Billings; and a sister-in-law, Marge Herman of Laurel; six grandchildren, Michael, Rebekah, Brittney, Courtney, Wittney and Desiree; a great-granddaughter, Makayla; and four step-grandchildren and 10 step-great-grandchildren; and lots of aunts, uncles and in-laws and numerous nieces and nephews. He will be missed by everyone who loves him. Memorials may be made to Rocky Mountain Hospice. A special thanks to St. Vincent Hospital third floor and Dr. Fitzgerald and Dr. Kahn. A memorial service will be held 10 a.m. Tuesday, April 5, at Smith Funeral Chapel-Laurel. Inurnment will be in the Laurel Cemetery with military honors.

What is a khutor? Is it a farm, or leased fields some distance from the home village? Bill Pickelhaupt Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

You'll get various translations, but yes, it refers to an individual farm or farm building complex or cluster of homes outside of a village proper. The best I've been able to come up with is the word "homestead" or possibly "farmstead", if such a word exists - in the US, these typically would have a Rural Road Post Number, but be outside of any incorporated settlement. In Russia, these would typically be named after the family that lived there - e.g. Khutor Semke, Khutor Schmidt, etc - and if it was sold, the name would typically change. I've seen this on old Russian maps. Does that help ? The writer Nikolai Gogol made the word Khutor famous in a novel, usually translated as "Nights on a Farm near Dikanka" - the word farm is used synonymously with Khutor - so that gives you another possible translation. Bill Doos -----Original Message----- From: billpick11 <[email protected]> To: ger-volga <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Mar 30, 2011 10:40 am Subject: [GV] Khutors What is a khutor? Is it a farm, or leased fields some distance from the home illage? Bill Pickelhaupt ent via BlackBerry by AT&T ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Yes, cannibalism was widespread and extensively documented during both the 1920 and 1930 famines, everywhere, not just the Volga GR villages. The original russian word "раскулачество" used in the "verdict", I believe is being translated out of context. It really means "destruction or liquidation", as in liquidating the kulak class. It could mean cannibalism, as in to "cannibalize a car for parts", but I don't believe it means the devouring of human flesh. Bill Doos -----Original Message----- From: Gary Martens <[email protected]> To: ger-volga <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Mar 29, 2011 4:00 pm Subject: Re: [GV] Cannibalization I contacted Dr. Samuel Sinner, author of "The Open Wound - The Genocide of erman Ethnic Minorities in Russia and the Soviet Union, 1915-1949 - and eyond". y question to him was whether he found any evidence of cannibalism among erman-Russians in research for the book. is answer was "Abundant evidence exists for cannibalism in the Volga illages during both famines in the 1920s and 1930s, including photographic vidence, which is disturbing and gruesome". ary Martens ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

I have heard that Lenin said of Stalin: "Beware of this man - there is something wrong with him." Lenin was right on that count. Stalin has been quoted as saying, "The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions are merely statistics." I would give up on culling info from the Memorial website, but it is important to remember what happened in the former Soviet Union. I have read the definition of the word I posted the other day as "dispossession of kulaks," rather than cannibalization for the sentence. That seems to be a better translation; it was pointed out that "kulak" is the root of the word. Thanks for everyone's input. Bill Pickelhaupt On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Dennis Zitterkopf <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm reading a book entitled Bloodlands-Europe between Hitler and Stalin by > Timothy Snyder. A rather gruesome history of the 1920s, 30s, and 40s in the > region the author calls the bloodlands. > > > > There are multiple references to cannibalism in the Ukraine, especially > during the darkest of the forced starvation period in 1933. These are well > documented and are unbelievable to read. For example "one family killed > their daughter-in-law, fed her head to the pigs and roasted the rest of her > body". (on pigs, see Hiroaki Kuromiya, Freedom and Terror in the Donbas A > Ukrainian Borderland, 1870s-1990s, Cambridge: Cambridge Univ Press, 1998 , > p > 172, ). That is only one of many incidents that read like a grade B horror > film script. Some of those references refer to photographs of the > incident. > > > > I'm only about 1/5 of the way through the book and don't know if I have the > stomach to continue. Stalin makes Hitler look like an altar boy and I've > previously read a biography of Mao that made both Hitler and Stalin look > like angels. > > > > Dennis > > > > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:59:29 -0500 > > From: Gary Martens <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [GV] Cannibalization > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > I contacted Dr. Samuel Sinner, author of "The Open Wound - The Genocide of > German Ethnic Minorities in Russia and the Soviet Union, 1915-1949 - and > Beyond". > > > > > > My question to him was whether he found any evidence of cannibalism among > German-Russians in research for the book. > > > > > > His answer was "Abundant evidence exists for cannibalism in the Volga > villages during both famines in the 1920s and 1930s, including photographic > evidence, which is disturbing and gruesome". > > > > > > Gary Martens > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm reading a book entitled Bloodlands-Europe between Hitler and Stalin by Timothy Snyder. A rather gruesome history of the 1920s, 30s, and 40s in the region the author calls the bloodlands. There are multiple references to cannibalism in the Ukraine, especially during the darkest of the forced starvation period in 1933. These are well documented and are unbelievable to read. For example "one family killed their daughter-in-law, fed her head to the pigs and roasted the rest of her body". (on pigs, see Hiroaki Kuromiya, Freedom and Terror in the Donbas A Ukrainian Borderland, 1870s-1990s, Cambridge: Cambridge Univ Press, 1998 , p 172, ). That is only one of many incidents that read like a grade B horror film script. Some of those references refer to photographs of the incident. I'm only about 1/5 of the way through the book and don't know if I have the stomach to continue. Stalin makes Hitler look like an altar boy and I've previously read a biography of Mao that made both Hitler and Stalin look like angels. Dennis Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:59:29 -0500 From: Gary Martens <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GV] Cannibalization To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I contacted Dr. Samuel Sinner, author of "The Open Wound - The Genocide of German Ethnic Minorities in Russia and the Soviet Union, 1915-1949 - and Beyond". My question to him was whether he found any evidence of cannibalism among German-Russians in research for the book. His answer was "Abundant evidence exists for cannibalism in the Volga villages during both famines in the 1920s and 1930s, including photographic evidence, which is disturbing and gruesome". Gary Martens

Hallo Suzanne and Listers:   No, I haven't quit. I've just been very busy. I had expected to finish last year but got sidetracked early in the year and haven't had a chance to get back to translating more "Letters from Hell." I hope to  pick up the translations again within a couple of months.   Thanks for asking,   Hugh Lichtenwald, from the farm in Monetta, SC VC Wiesenmueller --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Suzanne Heinitz-Dodge <[email protected]> wrote: From: Suzanne Heinitz-Dodge <[email protected]> Subject: [GV] on the subject of canibelism (spelling?) To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 5:50 PM Several of the letters from the Volga  during that time mention this.  Hugh Lichten....has translated a great many of them.  I haven't seen any lately. Hugh,have you quit? Suzanne H. Dodge -- *AHSGR VC for Eckheim, Holstein, & Müller (Mueller)* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I contacted Dr. Samuel Sinner, author of "The Open Wound - The Genocide of German Ethnic Minorities in Russia and the Soviet Union, 1915-1949 - and Beyond". My question to him was whether he found any evidence of cannibalism among German-Russians in research for the book. His answer was "Abundant evidence exists for cannibalism in the Volga villages during both famines in the 1920s and 1930s, including photographic evidence, which is disturbing and gruesome". Gary Martens

Several of the letters from the Volga during that time mention this. Hugh Lichten....has translated a great many of them. I haven't seen any lately. Hugh,have you quit? Suzanne H. Dodge -- *AHSGR VC for Eckheim, Holstein, & Müller (Mueller)*