MISS.ANN; LIST; This Intel has a"NEW point of Reliability to date!!! An Ancestor of this family has --"Recently Discover NEW INTEL that points this in a new direction!! **DOCUMENTS from "GA & SC-MILITERY ARCHIVES- which show Payment for a "PERSONAL WEAPON" LOST, and/or STOLEN-which belonged to this---[son]---JOHN MONTGOMERY who was allergy Captured, sent to a Prison-Ship[in Charleston???], and died or Killed while P.O.W.!!! BA Looking for any Connections GA to AL-(before-1820)!!! -----Original Message----- From: gaburke-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gaburke-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Vanderleest Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:44 AM To: gaburke@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GABURKE] [MONTGOMERY] Montgomery - Giles or Lincoln Co. TN Tom, I had deleted your messages because they were not my Burke county family but when you mentioned Wahoo Baptist church cemetery it caught my eye. My Aunt was buried there recently. One of the most beautiful cemetery settings you could imagine. So I looked at my Fincher family that lived in the area. Elizabeth Mcconnell married into my Willingham family.Is the Willingham family in your tree? Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Montgomery" <tommontgomery@cox.net> To: <montgomery@rootsweb.com> Cc: <GAWILKES-L-request@rootsweb.com>; <gaburke@rootsweb.com>; <georgia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [GABURKE] [MONTGOMERY] Montgomery - Giles or Lincoln Co. TN > The John Montgomery death by KIA appears to be a family legend and > has no basis in fact. Dr. D. C. Montgomery makes reference to this on > page > 33 of his 1976 genealogy by stating: "...a photostat of an old > genealogical > publication on the Montgomery family from Atlanta, Georgia which has since > been lost." This genealogy gives the offspring of James as four sons > (John, > James, Hugh and William) and five daughters with John being shown as the > first born with the additional wording "died in the Waxhaw Massacre" - - > there is no comment as to who the author might be and is most likely > unknown. This "genealogy" is probably where the belief that he died at the > Battle of the Waxhaws originated and is certainly an assumption on > someone's > part. As the genealogy appears to have it's origins in Atlanta the author > is probably a descendant of John's brother, James, who had settled in > DeKalb > County and died at Standing Peach Tree. > We have no knowledge who might have originally made this statement, > or just when it came into existence, it was just simply stated that this > occurred but never with any explanation. I believe it is safe to assume > that > most, if not all, of the information in this old record must be considered > questionable. But, to complicate matters a bit Dr. Montgomery also uses > the > wording "...said to have been taken prisoner of war at Waxhaw, S.C. and > died" in the line descent record so he just adds to the confusion - - on > the > one hand he questions the old genealogy validity and then uses the same > statement for an individuals status. Again, no source for this belief is > given. It must also be understood that Mrs. Katherine Cameron (Wilkerson) > Bryan (an aunt of the Dr.) makes no reference to this old record in her > genealogy of 1959. Mrs. Bryan did a great deal of the basic research > associated with this family and indeed Dr. Montgomery dedicated his book > to > her as her efforts forms the core of his own. This old genealogy is posted > as such in many different sources - - "came from an old genealogy which is > no longer available". > The battle of The Waxhaws (Hanging Rock) was 100% regulars on both > sides - there was no militia involved. There is also no record of a John > Montgomery in the Continental Line unit(s) which fought this battle and > John > was all of about fifteen or sixteen at the time: it is highly unlikely > that > he participated in any way.. > It is my own believe that this John is the John of Hancock County, > GA and was an early settler of Washington County (later a portion formed > Hancock). John probably left SC soon after the battle and someone twisted > history by giving him a hero's death - not an unusual thing to do as it > would explain his disappearance from the SC family(s). His uncles (Samuel, > Joseph, Robert, William and Joseph) also later moved to Hancock Cty before > migrating on to what is now Adams County, Mississippi. There is every > reason > to believe that John may well have made the move with them. I believe he > is > probably the John Montgomery who settled in Amite County (close to his > uncles) and shows up in the territorial census records of the time. But > all > of this must be proven and that is proving difficult. > Another part of this scenario comes from property records which show > that some of the Talbert family of NC purchased property which bordered > that > of John. David Montgomery married Nancy Talbert about 1800 in Amite > County, > MS and both John and David received land grants in Amite county on the > same > day in July 1807. There is also an indication that this David may have > lived > with John (in GA) at some point so the Hancock David/Talbert connection is > logical. But the relationship between John and David remains an unknown at > this time. > If anyone has additional info on this situation I would like to hear > from you, especially if it disputes what I show here. > > Tom Montgomery > Vista, CA > > Addendum: Dr. Montgomery (D.C.Montgomery) has passed away but it is my > understanding that he had compiled a great deal of additional information > on > the family of Hugh Montgomery. Does anyone know the status of this data? > Has > anyone discussed the possibility of a follow-up book to the 1976 edition? > Would be nice if it (the data) was made available, even in a raw form. > From: montgomery-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:montgomery-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ayers, B. J. > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:44 AM > To: NanSicotte@aol.com; montgomery@rootsweb.com > Cc: GAWILKES-L-request@rootsweb.com; gaburke@rootsweb.com; > georgia@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MONTGOMERY] Montgomery - Giles or Lincoln Co. TN >*LT/CAPT.JAMES> MONTGOMERY-(b.PA-ca-1730-1808)*-[ELIZABETH (MCCONNELL)-MONTGOMERY--- > their family in the "LANCASTER/WAXHAWS, SC" areas!! > (1)- His father thought to be one of the *HUGH MONTGOMERY*- > ["PA>>SALSBURY/ROWAN, NC>>to WAXHAWS-(circa-1760)??? > (2)- Some sources say Connection to the *MONTGOMERY'S* in "OLD-96 > DISTRICT", and "ABBEVILLE, SC"areas????????????? > (3)- CAPT.JAMES MONTGOMERY & oldest son- *JOHN MONTGOMERY-(b.PA or > SC-brfore-1760)*----Fought @ "HANGING ROCK, SC"-----JOHN WAS***POW > &"KIA-BY > BRITISH"!!! > (4)- JAMES MONTGOMERY went to- FIGHT IN-- "GEORGIA"-[NOV-1777-COMM-2nd.LT] > ---"BURKE, GA-MILITIA"---per "D.A.R."---*REFUGEE SOLDIER*! > Several Sources say--Thought to have fought in GEORGIA- "KETTLE CREK, > AUGUSTA, possibly in CHARLESTON"??? > Received -**LAND GRANTS**- " SC & GA"/ WAR-BOUNTY, and GA-CITIZEN > BOUNTY-"WILKES, FRANKLIN,& JACKSON COUNTY,GEORGIA"!!!! > Apparently had-Unknown-Family/LAND-in "GEORGIA and SOUTH CAROLINA"-during > the "REV.WAR"??????? > > We are looking for "HINTON/ BROWN & CROCKETT CONNECTIONS to this [and/or > ANY]--MONTGOMERY Family!!! > THANKS & GOD BLESS > SEMPER FI > BA-In North GA!! > From: NanSicotte@aol.com [mailto:NanSicotte@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:18 AM > To: Ayers, B. J. > Subject: Montgomery - Giles or Lincoln Co. TN > Hello: > Do you know if your Montgomerys had any connection to > upcountry South Carolina (Chester Co. or York Co. perhaps) in the late > 1700s, early 1800s? My John Hamilton - Martha Greer family named a son > David > Montgomery Hamilton (born 1809). This family moved to Lincoln Co. > TN ca 1810. > Was there a local or famous Rev. War officer from the > Carolinas named Montgomery? > Nancy > ED>