The Fish Ponds (Thlotlogalgua, or Laloakalka) was so far as I can recall, the only Creek talwa that was almost universally referred to by English speaking people by its name translated into English rather than in Muskogean. Talwa was the word for a town, but it had dimensions broader than the meaning of the word town in English. I am not a Muskogee speaker and am unable to translate Sappeloke. In Muskogee loke means "eater" or "devourer" but I can't get a fix on Sappe from a dictionary. There is no standard spelling and sounds are represented very differently by various writers. My best guess would be that Sappeloke was either a place name associated with these Parkers and that they were of Creek ancestry, or that it was the name of a Creek ancestor. I suggest getting in touch with "Sappeloke1832" (See: : http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/PARKER/2003-07/1058560227 ) It just happens that 1832 was the year of most of the Creek census made before removal, so you might find something by looking for Sappeloke and Parker on it... RW vonda miller wrote: >An ancestor cousin of mine has a family name written on the foot of her >headstone. >My ancestor is Magdalene (PARKER-maiden) She married many times: Barlow Rice >Smith Chapman. > At the foot of her headstone is written "Misty Star Sappeloke". >Magdalene PARKER was born: October 29, 1926 Grady Co., GA. died: January 13, >1997 Atlanta, Ga. > I was told that her brother Clarence FILED CLAIM #50510 USING EASTERN >CREEK NUMBER 11245 (MARY SAPP ) I have no idea what claim nor with whom for >what...ect... > Her father was William Walter PARKER born December 12, 1872 Jackson Co., >Fl. died May 21, 1953 Grady Co, Ga. s/o Robert Samuel PARKER and Mary Barrow >(SAPP?). > I am told that other family members also have the name Sappeloke at the >foot of their headstones as well. > Does anyone know of this family? Why the name on the headstones? > Does anyone know of the town/ territory in Alabama called Fish Pond? >Sappeloke is on the 1832 census in Fish Pond. Female. There's no other >information. > Anyone have any ideas? I need lots of suggestions, any suggestions. >Thank you. >Vonda >

vonda miller wrote: > Does anyone know of the town/ territory in Alabama called Fish Pond? >Sappeloke is on the 1832 census in Fish Pond. There is a Fish Pond PO in Tallapoosa County, AL, and a Fish Pond Town in Coosa County, AL SOURCE: W. Craig Remington & Thomas J. Kallsen, Editors, HISTORICAL ATLAS OF ALABAMA Volume 1, Historical Locations by County. (Tuscaloosa, AL, University of Alabama, Department of Geography, 1997). Tallapoosa and Coosa Counties were created in Alabama within the Upper Creek Indians Territory ceded by Treaty of Washington April 4, 1832. SOURCE: "John Melish Map of Alabama, October 29, 1818, superimposed on a modern map showing lines formed by the last Indian Treaties and boundries fixed before that date. United States Department of the Interior Geological Survey. A. F. Hassan, Cartographic Engineer Compiled in 1912, revised 1925." The modern map is signed by William Letford, 12/11/63. My photocopy was made on a visit to the Alabama Department of Archives and History, Montgomery, AL. A photo of the actual Melish map is found at the Historical Map Archive online at http://alabamamaps.ua.edu/historicalmaps/ I hope this will help in your research .... Charlotte Tucker Tuscaloosa, AL

Thank you for your help. You and everyone on this list have been very helpful. Vonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard White" <rw@pone.com> To: <GEORGIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [GEORGIA] SAPP/SAPPELOKE Family Mystery > > The Fish Ponds (Thlotlogalgua, or Laloakalka) was so far as I can > recall, the only Creek talwa that was almost universally referred to by > English speaking people by its name translated into English rather than > in Muskogean. Talwa was the word for a town, but it had dimensions > broader than the meaning of the word town in English. > > I am not a Muskogee speaker and am unable to translate Sappeloke. In > Muskogee loke means "eater" or "devourer" but I can't get a fix on Sappe > from a dictionary. There is no standard spelling and sounds are > represented very differently by various writers. > > My best guess would be that Sappeloke was either a place name associated > with these Parkers and that they were of Creek ancestry, or that it was > the name of a Creek ancestor. > > I suggest getting in touch with "Sappeloke1832" (See: : > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/PARKER/2003-07/1058560227 ) It > just happens that 1832 was the year of most of the Creek census made > before removal, so you might find something by looking for Sappeloke and > Parker on it... > > RW > > vonda miller wrote: > > >An ancestor cousin of mine has a family name written on the foot of her > >headstone. > >My ancestor is Magdalene (PARKER-maiden) She married many times: Barlow Rice > >Smith Chapman. > > At the foot of her headstone is written "Misty Star Sappeloke". > >Magdalene PARKER was born: October 29, 1926 Grady Co., GA. died: January 13, > >1997 Atlanta, Ga. > > I was told that her brother Clarence FILED CLAIM #50510 USING EASTERN > >CREEK NUMBER 11245 (MARY SAPP ) I have no idea what claim nor with whom for > >what...ect... > > Her father was William Walter PARKER born December 12, 1872 Jackson Co., > >Fl. died May 21, 1953 Grady Co, Ga. s/o Robert Samuel PARKER and Mary Barrow > >(SAPP?). > > I am told that other family members also have the name Sappeloke at the > >foot of their headstones as well. > > Does anyone know of this family? Why the name on the headstones? > > Does anyone know of the town/ territory in Alabama called Fish Pond? > >Sappeloke is on the 1832 census in Fish Pond. Female. There's no other > >information. > > Anyone have any ideas? I need lots of suggestions, any suggestions. > >Thank you. > >Vonda > > > > > > > ==== GEORGIA Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >