25DECO7 MR. ODIE, my dear "Brother in Arms"; LIST; MY DEAR MR. ODIE, We also had a *CANTANA* at our Church last week, put on by the young folks, with the help of two of the Church's youngest-HEE HEE-[83 and 79 proper]!! The story was based on the Song/Movie-"THE CHRISTMAS SHOES"!! The teenagers and little ones did such a great job that it brought tears to all eyes in the church!! The story has to do with self sacrifice, and "Giving from the HEART"! After the Church Social following the play, we had several kids asking "THOSE QUESTIONS", from last Wednesdays Sermon about GIVING FROM THE HEART??? It just touch's your HEART, to see these kids, who are sometimes loud, and unruly in church, and you wonder if they are Listening?????? YES; it appears that they DO!!! GIVING IS THE "FIRST & SECOND REASON FOR THE SEASON!!! GOD GAVE HIS ONLY SON! CHRIST GAVE HIS ALL/ HIS LIFE FOR ALL SIN! WE IN TURN MUST GIVE OF OUR' HEARTS!!! GOD BLESS YOU MR. ODIE, ONE & ALL! SEMPER FI BA- In North GA!! -----Original Message----- From: roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of roots-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 3:01 AM To: roots@rootsweb.com Subject: ROOTS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 745 If you respond to this digest, please replace the subject line of your response (so it doesn't read "Re: ROOTS-L Digest") and please do NOT quote the digest ... a few lines from the message to which you are responding or (better still) a brief summary of that message will do. Thanks! MailMan (our current software) supports two digest formats. One (what you're probably reading) is plain. The other is called "MIME", and may appear as if each message is an attachment. It doesn't work for AOL. If you want to try the other digest format, drop a note to ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com and ask me to "toggle the digest format." If you want to receive each message separately, as soon as it's sent, drop a note to the same addess and ask for mail mode. Today's Topics: 1. Merry Christmas (marie yeager) 2. Amazing Grace Cantata (ssstlr) 3. Way Back When--tree climbing (ssstlr) 4. tree story (Sue Maxwell) 5. Re: JOAB WILSON, South Carolina, GA, NC (Drew Smith) 6. Re: Birth certificate (Cecelia) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:29:03 -0500 From: "marie yeager" <firehorse1331@gmail.com> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Merry Christmas To: roots-l@rootsweb.com, Drake-Family-@googlegroups.com, drake@rootsweb.com, POLAND-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <b8b771180712241829y29a58612r44851bd77fc02bb8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My deepest wishes to all for a merry christmas and a wonderful new year. To those who helped with the recipe for the dough an extra hug, they are a success, only 100 more Pierogi to fill and cook in the morning. My love to all. Marie in Florida ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:44:11 -0700 From: "ssstlr" <ssstlr@plateautel.net> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Amazing Grace Cantata To: ROOTS@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <380-220071222534411139@plateautel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Paul Odle wrote: "Amazing Grace Cantata Perhaps once in a life time an old Baptist Country boy from Yukon, Oklahoma has the opportunity to attend a ?CANTATA.?" Paul, I am certainly glad that you wrote about a Cantata. It is strange that I had never heard of such (just as you) until a few weeks ago. My 91-year-old mother told me that the Baptist Church in Grady, NM (you, Paul, know where that is, right? Near Broadview and Bellview). She said she might go to it, but didn't know for sure since there were a lot of steps to climb up to the entry of the church. I said, "What in the world is a 'Cantata'?" She said it was where a group of singers told stories (Christian) in song. Sadly, she did not make it to the "Cantata" because her knees were bothering her too much to climb the steps and she didn't want to impose upon others to help her (very independent woman, but very well liked). I wish I had read about your experience before the event in Grady--I would have went there and took her--even if she had to climb the steps! I just know I would have enjoyed it as much as she would have. As you stated, the Cantata groups perform at many different denominational churches, civic centers, and elsewhere. Thanks for bringing the "Cantata" more to life for me. If we get a chance again to go to one again, I plan on taking my mother. Sue from NM Message: 3 Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:52:53 -0700 From: "ssstlr" <ssstlr@plateautel.net> Subject: [ROOTS-L] Way Back When--tree climbing To: ROOTS@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <380-220071222535253822@plateautel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 How much this reminded me of my childhood days! I guess I was one of the "biggest tomboys" around. There were several trees around my parents' home and I climbed to the very top of them many, many times. My mom never stopped me from doing so. I would climb up a tree and watch the clouds (and an occasional airplane) go by. Sometimes I would take a snack and a book and spend time lying back on a limb enjoying the slight swaying of the branches. My grandmother who lived across the alley from us had apple, cherry, and pear trees. Even as a young mother, I would climb up these trees to pick the very highest of the fruit. My oldest son at age 5-6 would climb up with me. He never went as high as me, but we would fill our buckets several times before we had the tree "stripped" of the fruit. Sue of NM ----------------------------- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:52:50 -0700 From: "Sue Maxwell" <suemaxwell@comcast.net> Subject: [ROOTS-L] tree story To: "roots-L list" <roots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <00cb01c846b2$02cbc1d0$0b00a8c0@desktop> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Lee- I love that tree story- what a miracle. I loved to climb trees when I was little, but the only thing I fell off of was two horses- one bucked me off and the other one ran into a barbed wire fence and I went sailing over his head through the trees in the woods- am still alive! I want to tell you a funny tree story that finally became a miracle. I have a friend who is from S. Africa and lived here in Provo with her four girls and difficult husband. It was her dream to live here and she was content. But they suddenly realized tht the smallest girl was deaf. My friend went through quite a time of it with this new challenge, and after awhile of adjustment began to teach her a different kind of signing that is phonetic. Someone donated some hearing aides, but she was diagnosed incorrectly and they thought she was having other possible problems. But with a health background, I could tell it was just a hearing problem. She was a little bit like that famous deaf lady- her name temporarily slips my mind- sort of in her own world and out in space and a little wild and untamed. But a cute little thing. One day her mom saw someone climbing around in their big cherry tree and went out to investigate. It was her little girl, gracie, and she was without her clothes on, and as Deserie stepped under the tree, Gracie let loose with her urine. It is too funny to hear her tell it. I get hysterical every time I hear it. Her husband absolutely dragged her out of Utah as he was having work problems, and they went to Va. As it turned out, it was one of two places in the country that had a special hearing and speech program. They helped her, and eventually she got cohcleare(sp) implants in both ears; they socialized her and civilized her and helped her adjust to school, and now she can talk and hear and is in school and they are all back here where they wanted to be. A happy ending for my friends. I will never forget the tree story as long as I live- it was so funny. Merry Christmas- Sue ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:46:24 -0500 From: "Drew Smith" <drewsmithtpa@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] JOAB WILSON, South Carolina, GA, NC To: RWW201@aol.com Cc: ROOTS@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <5e931bb30712242146x1f82f100v72cd32d2a4be8723@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Robert, Because Joab and Esther Wilson are shown as alive in the 1900 census, then their death dates can't be "about 1892-1900". At best, you could say that they died "after 1900". The 1900 census shows Joab's middle initial as "A". ("Archer", maybe?) If Mary died as an infant in 1876, then why is there a 23-year-old Mary, born in 1876, showing as Joab and Esther's daughter in the 1900 census? The 1900 census also shows that Esther has had 12 children, of which 11 are still alive. In addition to Mary and William M., there are also Candler, George W., and May. (May has a middle initial, but I'm not sure what it is.) The 1910 census for Smyrna, Cobb County, GA shows Ester M. Wilson, now a widow, living in the same household with children George W., Mary M., and May E. It looks like only 8 of Ester's children are still living. This means that Joab died between 1900 and 1910. I don't see Ester in the 1920 census, so it's likely that she died between 1910 and 1920. Regards, Drew Smith ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 01:30:47 -0600 From: "Cecelia" <cheinric@suddenlink.net> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Birth certificate To: <Pgfollmer@aol.com>, <roots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <00dd01c846c8$11558540$e226c04a@Cecelia> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I recently got a photo ID here in Texas. I'm almost 70. I just had to show my notice that my drivers license had expired, and they took another photo, etc. Gave me a temporary card. I couldn't pass the eye exam so I couldn't renew my license. They said that you have 2 years in which to renew the license, so I hoped that, maybe, if I am able to get cataracts taken care of, I can get my license back. But, I have Macular Degneration in one eye, so I don't know if I will ever be able to drive again. Lights, signs, and lines (vertical and horizontal) give me trouble when I ride with someone else, now. I wouldn't dare drive until that is better. I had to have a birth certificate when I retired. I sent for a copy and they had me listed as a boy. In order to get another correct copy, I had to send another $20. However, the state (I was a teacher) didn't require a certified copy and I was able to get a copy at the courthouse where I live, rather than having to send away to the county where I was born. That was a lot cheaper. My mother had a terrible time when she needed school records, and her birth certificate when she got ready to apply for social security, etc. The courthouse and school back in her home town had burned and there were no records. She was able to have several people certify who she was in order to complete the applications she was trying to do. Cecelia in Texas >I had to laugh to myself when I just read that someone's birth certificate > was no longer valid after 40 years. Last year I tried to get a I D card > and you > had to show your birth certificate. I am 75 years old and my birth > certificate is no longer valid because it does not have the raised emblem > on it. I > always thought a birth certificate was just that.Legal, but apparently > not so. > Not here in Penna, anyhow, too old. > Peggy F. >