Kay, I wish I could have found something more for you. I didn't know if you wanted to put your sister's name and date on the list, that is the reason I didn't include them. Like so many of us, I have some brickwalls that may never be able to break through. I can't find my great grandfather, Jonathan S. Payne's first wife, Martha E. Anderson's family. They were married in Bibb Co., AL. After her death, he married Martha Susan Weaver, my great grandmother. I have not been able to locate Martha E. Anderson's family. Another one is great, great grandmother, Rebecca Sikes date of married to Toliver E. Shumate. I can't find her family either. All we can do is keep looking and hoping we stumble on something that will lead us down the right path. Hazel Scanned for viruses by Blue Coat http://www.WinProxy.com/

Hazel, You want a brick wall, my Music line, John Jackson Music married Lydia Ann M ( all I know, no marriage record,) first record I find of her is the 1850 Appling census, in the household of her father-in-law, Mills Music, with her husband. To date to only mention of her maiden name was in the obit of her youngest son, she died shortly after his birth and John remarried. This son lived to be eighty eight, and I don't know who gave the info for the obit. Probable a daughter. The Obit names her as a Carter. They were probable married in 1850 in Appling County. The only Carter family that I can fit her into was a neighbor to Mills in the 1850 census if the census was taken from a starting point going around the county back to the start. One is at the first of the census the other family at the end. Now here are some other points, earlier researchers list her as either a Hill or Hall. She is my maternal 2nd Great and my mtDNA matches hers. I have a match on my mtDNA and the match goes back to the family of Samuel Sellars and one of his daughters married Instance Hall. I am in the process of trying to find a person who carries the mtDNA of the Carter family, as best I can tell could be her parents, my sister-in-law descends from the family, but she descends from a son rather than a daughter so she does not carry the same mtDNA. Where do I go from here. No marriage record, no bible records, had a time just connecting my great back to the family because the only family record was her name was Ibbie and she was the widow of a cousin of her second husband, and married great grandfather Ruebin Thomas as Ibby Thomas. Th family knew that she was a sister of Mahala Music who married Mitchell Thomas, another cousin of Grandpa. Finnally found her listed in the 1880 census with her family and listed this time as Ibbie rather than Abigail as she was in the family histories. Don't know that we will ever find the documention but would be nice to find out if she was a Carter, and the connection is earlier then I have in both the Carter family and the Sellars family. To proof here would be a match to my mtDNA from a descendant of the Carter family, a non match would eliminate the Carter family, but would not prove she was a Hall either. Bill

More brick walls!! Who were the parents of Sarah Davis, born GA about 1815, married John W. Wills 25 Mar 1831 in Meriwether Co. They were in 1850 Harris Co. census. There were several Wills - Davis marriages earlier in Monroe Co. Also need parents of John W. Wills, who was born about 1812 in South Carolina. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Fish" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 9:37 PM Subject: [GEORGIA] Hazel Brick walls > Hazel, > > You want a brick wall, my Music line, John Jackson Music married Lydia Ann > M ( all I know, no marriage record,) first > record I find of her is the 1850 Appling census, in the household of her > father-in-law, Mills Music, with her husband. > To date to only mention of her maiden name was in the obit of her youngest > son, she died shortly after his birth and > John remarried. This son lived to be eighty eight, and I don't know who > gave the info for the obit. Probable a daughter. > The Obit names her as a Carter. They were probable married in 1850 in > Appling County. The only Carter family that I can > fit her into was a neighbor to Mills in the 1850 census if the census was > taken from a starting point going around the > county back to the start. One is at the first of the census the other > family at the end. > > Now here are some other points, earlier researchers list her as either a > Hill or Hall. She is my maternal 2nd Great and > my mtDNA matches hers. I have a match on my mtDNA and the match goes back > to the family of Samuel Sellars and one of his > daughters married Instance Hall. > > I am in the process of trying to find a person who carries the mtDNA of > the Carter family, as best I can tell could be > her parents, my sister-in-law descends from the family, but she descends > from a son rather than a daughter so she does > not carry the same mtDNA. > > Where do I go from here. No marriage record, no bible records, had a time > just connecting my great back to the family > because the only family record was her name was Ibbie and she was the > widow of a cousin of her second husband, and > married great grandfather Ruebin Thomas as Ibby Thomas. Th family knew > that she was a sister of Mahala Music who married > Mitchell Thomas, another cousin of Grandpa. Finnally found her listed in > the 1880 census with her family and listed this > time as Ibbie rather than Abigail as she was in the family histories. > > Don't know that we will ever find the documention but would be nice to > find out if she was a Carter, and the connection > is earlier then I have in both the Carter family and the Sellars family. > To proof here would be a match to my mtDNA from > a descendant of the Carter family, a non match would eliminate the Carter > family, but would not prove she was a Hall > either. > > Bill > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release Date: 10/1/2006 > >

Thanks, I think that I have taken up enough space on my problem and if anyone wants to contact me, please contact me on [email protected] That way, it will give others time too. I have a cousin that has been working on this with me, and he doesn't have the answer either. If, anyone has the school or church records, that would be most appreciated. Even school pictures. Thanks everyone, the response was more than I could have expected. Keep helping everyone, and I'll do the same. Kay (Fiveash) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hazel LeBlanc" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 9:37 PM Subject: [GEORGIA] A. M. Mathison research > Kay, > I wish I could have found something more for you. I didn't know if > you wanted to put your sister's name and date on the list, that is the > reason I didn't include them. > Like so many of us, I have some brickwalls that may never be able to > break through. I can't find my great grandfather, Jonathan S. Payne's > first wife, Martha E. Anderson's family. They were married in Bibb Co., > AL. After her death, he married Martha Susan Weaver, my great > grandmother. I have not been able to locate Martha E. Anderson's > family. Another one is great, great grandmother, Rebecca Sikes date of > married to Toliver E. Shumate. I can't find her family either. > All we can do is keep looking and hoping we stumble on something that > will lead us down the right path. > Hazel > > > Scanned for viruses by Blue Coat > http://www.WinProxy.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >