Emma, If there is an LDS Family History Center near you, they can order the microfilm for you. The records sound like they should be in the Wilkinson County probate records and probably in the deeds (superior court records) also. These centers usually have microfilm readers with copiers so you can make copies of the actual records. You can follow the sale of the land right up to the present time, if you have time to follow the trail in the deed books. The other option is to try and order them from the Wilkinson County Courthouse in Georgia, as was suggested by another list member, but I have found that some courthouse employees don't have the time to look up old records and send copies. I don't know about Wilkinson. Hope this helps. Judy K in Newnan, GA

Thanks for the suggestions on how and where to find the land records. I will follow up on all of those tomorrow since I am in a different time zone than GA. I have three chances of finding the land and the family who would benefit from the sale. Thanks to you all. Emma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Cercy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [GEORGIA] 1829 land records > Write to or call the Wilkinson Co., Ga probate court to see if they have > the > records. If not, they will be able to tell you where to write. > > >>From: "Emma Sanders" <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: "Wilkinson County Georgia" <[email protected]> >>CC: "Georgia M. List" <[email protected]> >>Subject: [GEORGIA] 1829 land records >>Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:51:00 -0500 >> >>Looking for information on how to get a record of land and estate that >>was mentioned in a newspaper in Wilkinson County in Sept. 1829. >> >>Is there anyway to find the sale of this land to follow the distribution >>of >>this property? >> >>To be sold at the late residence of Jesse Vaughan in Wilkinson county the >>29th of Sept. next (1929) and it gives the description of three lots of >>land , well improved, lying on the Oconee River in Wilkinson County and >>one >>lot in Lee county and 101 acres in an Island on the Oconee River and two >>small Negro girls. Signed John Vaughan, James Low and Thomas T. Prestwood. >>Adms. >> >>How would one go about finding information on this if we live in Arkansas? >>Any help will be much appreciated. >>Emma >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.6/486 - Release Date: 10/19/2006 > >

Casey's is the older cemetery that adjoins Crestlawn cemetery. It is on Chattahoochee Ave. in Atlanta. I found records in the office of Crestlawn for some of my people that were buried in Casey's. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:15 PM Subject: [GEORGIA] Casey's Cemetery? > Hi, > > In researching John R. STEWART (widow Dora), I note that he died on Dec 4, > 1896 (age of 39), and is buried at 'Casey's Cemetery.' Cause of death unknown. > > Would anyone know more about him, or exactly where this cemetery is? I > believe he lived in Atlanta, at 59 Hills Ave. > > Thanks! > > Allen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, In researching John R. STEWART (widow Dora), I note that he died on Dec 4, 1896 (age of 39), and is buried at 'Casey's Cemetery.' Cause of death unknown. Would anyone know more about him, or exactly where this cemetery is? I believe he lived in Atlanta, at 59 Hills Ave. Thanks! Allen

Looking for information on how to get a record of land and estate that was mentioned in a newspaper in Wilkinson County in Sept. 1829. Is there anyway to find the sale of this land to follow the distribution of this property? To be sold at the late residence of Jesse Vaughan in Wilkinson county the 29th of Sept. next (1929) and it gives the description of three lots of land , well improved, lying on the Oconee River in Wilkinson County and one lot in Lee county and 101 acres in an Island on the Oconee River and two small Negro girls. Signed John Vaughan, James Low and Thomas T. Prestwood. Adms. How would one go about finding information on this if we live in Arkansas? Any help will be much appreciated. Emma

In a message dated 10/19/2006 1:33:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: That is what is so odd about the situation involving the teaching certificate that Doris sent the link for and one reason we were trying to find out more information. I am the one that submitted that document and it is in the family's possession. Not only was Olivia Ganus not single, but in 1871 she had 8 children and the youngest was only a year old. The whole situation is a mystery to me. Michelle ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bert, I have transcribed the Banks county 1859 Grand Jury and Poor School List. In Banks county the Justices of the Inferior Court appointed Examiners who tested the applicants for teaching jobs as well as ascertained if the applicants were "competent and of good moral character." All teachers had to be single. The Examiners were ordinary citizens and I assume they were literate. The Examiners would then issue a certificate to the teacher to teach in their county and re-examined them from time to time. The teachers were paid from the "Poor School fund" and "the Common School fund", which may be the same thing. It appears that certification was done at the county level. You might check the old records in the county your ancestor taught in to see if any lists of the certified teachers for 1860 exist. Jackie In a message dated 10/19/2006 12:31:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Bert, Not sure about 1860, but in 1871 Georgia was issuing Teacher's Certificates. There is a copy of one on the Haralson County, GA AHGP web site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaharal2/teach.html We tried to learn more, but was unable. The county told us to call the state Board of Education in Atlanta, but Atlanta told us that the early records should be in the county. Doris > [Original Message] > From: Bert Pittman <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 10/19/06 12:05:38 PM > Subject: [GEORGIA] teaching profession records? > > Does anyone know if there was any kind of credentials or license needed to > become a teacher in west Georgia, 1860? > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bert, Not sure about 1860, but in 1871 Georgia was issuing Teacher's Certificates. There is a copy of one on the Haralson County, GA AHGP web site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaharal2/teach.html We tried to learn more, but was unable. The county told us to call the state Board of Education in Atlanta, but Atlanta told us that the early records should be in the county. Doris > [Original Message] > From: Bert Pittman <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 10/19/06 12:05:38 PM > Subject: [GEORGIA] teaching profession records? > > Does anyone know if there was any kind of credentials or license needed to > become a teacher in west Georgia, 1860? > >

That is what is so odd about the situation involving the teaching certificate that Doris sent the link for and one reason we were trying to find out more information. I am the one that submitted that document and it is in the family's possession. Not only was Olivia Ganus not single, but in 1871 she had 8 children and the youngest was only a year old. The whole situation is a mystery to me. Michelle

Does anyone know if there was any kind of credentials or license needed to become a teacher in west Georgia, 1860? If I had to guess, it would be no. One of my ancestors, Jonathan T. McCrary, was a 19 year old teacher in Lumpkin, Stewart Co in 1860. His parents were poor so its doubtful he had any education beyond high school. In fact, I have found his name among the Talbot County poor school list in 1852 and 1854. Another ancestor, James Nicholson, was a teacher in Woodbury, Meriwether Co in 1860 but I have no information about his early background. Both men listed 'teacher' as their occupation on every subsequent census for rest of their lives. Does anyone know if one should expect to find any type of records associated with the teaching profession in Georgia during the 19th century?

Hello, From what I have read, once a student was proficient in Reading, Writing, Arithmetic, History etc....they could take a test and receive a Teaching Certificate. They then applied to whatever school district that needed teachers. If they were accepted (and were,even at very young ages - 16, 17 etc.......). They then boarded with different families in the area and got paid whatever the salary was. I think that applied to most areas in the 1800's (especially the early part of the century) and moreso in the remote areas. Alice Braddy Davis Elmendorf, Texas Doris Robbins <[email protected]> wrote: Bert, Not sure about 1860, but in 1871 Georgia was issuing Teacher's Certificates. There is a copy of one on the Haralson County, GA AHGP web site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaharal2/teach.html We tried to learn more, but was unable. The county told us to call the state Board of Education in Atlanta, but Atlanta told us that the early records should be in the county. Doris > [Original Message] > From: Bert Pittman > To: > Date: 10/19/06 12:05:38 PM > Subject: [GEORGIA] teaching profession records? > > Does anyone know if there was any kind of credentials or license needed to > become a teacher in west Georgia, 1860? > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

Bert, Haralson County's court records should tell you that he was appointed a justice of the peace and the date(s) of his appointment(s), but I sincerely doubt that there will be any more than that. All those I have read simply gave the date the court met, the names of those to be appointed and the name of the judge who signed the order. Sorry to be a wet blanket, but that's been my only experience with reading JP appointments in early records. Was his marriage to Harriet in 1852 his first? Has he not been located in the 1850 census? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bert Pittman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: [GEORGIA] Justice of the Peace record trail? > According to the marriage lists in UsGenWeb for Haralson Co Ga, Someone with the > same name as my brickwall ancestor presided over exactly one marriage in 1892. > If this is my ancestor, then he died about one month after performing that > marriage. Could someone tell me if there are likely to be records that might > tell me more about this individual? > > Thanks! > Bert > > While I am at it I might as well post his info just incase someone might see a > connection: > ----------- > My earliest known Nicholson ancestor was James Nicholson, as usual, his age > varies depending on which census return you check but his grave at Bremen City > Cemetery, Haralson Co Ga. says he was born 22 Oct 1822 and died 18 Jan 1893. > > In her Confederate widow's pension application, James' wife claimed that James > was born in North Carolina, however several of her answers seemed incoherent > and I tend to believe all the known census returns which report he was born in > South Carolina. (James was a member of Co B 26th Ga Bat., I have a copy of the > pension application and have submitted my attempt at transcribing it to to > UsGenWeb) Additionally, the 1880 census reports that James' father was born in > Virginia and his mother in South Carolina. > > James Nicholson married Harriet Anne Caudle in Troup Co Ga in 1856. James > reported his occupation as teacher in census years 1860, 1870 and 1880. > > In 1860, James' family lived in Woodbury, Meriwether Co. GA > In 1870, in Griffen, Spalding Co. Ga > In 1880, in (Texas district) Heard Co. Ga. > > I have some descendant info on 5 of his 8 children. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/480 - Release Date: 10/17/2006 > >

According to the marriage lists in UsGenWeb for Haralson Co Ga, Someone with the same name as my brickwall ancestor presided over exactly one marriage in 1892. If this is my ancestor, then he died about one month after performing that marriage. Could someone tell me if there are likely to be records that might tell me more about this individual? Thanks! Bert While I am at it I might as well post his info just incase someone might see a connection: ----------- My earliest known Nicholson ancestor was James Nicholson, as usual, his age varies depending on which census return you check but his grave at Bremen City Cemetery, Haralson Co Ga. says he was born 22 Oct 1822 and died 18 Jan 1893. In her Confederate widow's pension application, James' wife claimed that James was born in North Carolina, however several of her answers seemed incoherent and I tend to believe all the known census returns which report he was born in South Carolina. (James was a member of Co B 26th Ga Bat., I have a copy of the pension application and have submitted my attempt at transcribing it to to UsGenWeb) Additionally, the 1880 census reports that James' father was born in Virginia and his mother in South Carolina. James Nicholson married Harriet Anne Caudle in Troup Co Ga in 1856. James reported his occupation as teacher in census years 1860, 1870 and 1880. In 1860, James' family lived in Woodbury, Meriwether Co. GA In 1870, in Griffen, Spalding Co. Ga In 1880, in (Texas district) Heard Co. Ga. I have some descendant info on 5 of his 8 children.

Thanks Linda, I didn't where to go after I could not find them anywhere. I will check the two counties you mentioned. Thanks again, Emma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Murray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [GEORGIA] What happened to these Cummings Children? > Hi, Emma. > > Sorry. I can't find those three Cummings children anywhere in the 1850 > census. If you know where their father is buried, you might check to see > if > those three children died prior to 1850 and were buried in a family plot > in > Telfair. If they were small children, it bothers me that there is only > the > one payment made to them (the one you mention in 1847). If William > needed > a guardian in 1847, he, at least, was still a minor, and because their > mother, Lucretia, was only 38 on the 1850 census, I suspect that they all > were. If they lived to majority, there should be a final distribution > payment made to each one upon their either marrying (the girls), or > reaching > the age of 21. Up until that time, there should have been either yearly > payments made for their benefit from their father's estate or some record > of > a final settlement to their guardians on their behalf if their father's > property were sold or depleted. > > What sort of bill was paid on Zilpha's behalf by the court in 1847? > Clothing? Doctor? Were there any payments made to anyone later than 1847 > on the daughters' behalf? If they had married prior to reaching the age > of > 21, any distributive payments due them would have been made in their > husbands' names, but those receipts should show who the payments were > actually for. Maybe look each receipt over again carefully for any clues. > > As for their daughter, Lucretia, who married Anderson Fussell, my best > guess > is that they were cousins. Anderson's father, William Fussell, was living > near Jacob (and James) Fussell in 1820 Duplin County, North Carolina. For > something concrete, you might check for any Fussell estate records in both > Duplin County and in Irwin County, Georgia to see if Jacob and William > shared in the estate of a common Fussell. > > Good luck. > Linda in Marietta > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Emma Sanders" <[email protected]> > To: "Telfair County Georgia" <[email protected]> > Cc: "Georgia M. List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:27 PM > Subject: [GEORGIA] What happened to these Cummings Children? > > >> Lucretia Studstill married James Cummings and had three known children > before he died ca. 1844. Lucretia married Jacob Fussell in Telfair Co., > May 11, 1847, approximately two years after the death of her first > husband, > James Cummings. >> >> >> >> William Cummings was alive on Nov. 1, 1847 when his stepfather Jacob > Fussell was appointed his guardian, (Telfair Co. Ordinary and Estate > Records, Administrators and Guardians Bonds, 1831-1863, Book H, page 64). >> >> Rebecca Cummings was alive in 1847 when an accounting of her father, > James Cummings' estate was recorded and states that she received payment > of > $11.70, (Telfair Co. Ordinary and Estate Records, Administrators and > Guardians Bonds, 1831-1863, Book H, page 64. >> >> >> >> Zilpha Cummings was alive in 1848 when an accounting of her father, James > Cummings' estate was recorded and states that a bill was paid on her > behalf, > (Telfair Co. Ordinary and Estate Records, Administrators and Guardians > Bonds, 1831-1863, Book H, page 102). >> >> >> >> Where did this Cummings family go after 1847? Have found no record on any > of them past 1847. A real mystery to me. >> >> Also need information on Lucretia Fussell who married Anderson Fussell. > How do they fall in with the above family? >> >> Any help will be much appreciated. >> >> >> >> Emma >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006 > >

Hi, Emma. Sorry. I can't find those three Cummings children anywhere in the 1850 census. If you know where their father is buried, you might check to see if those three children died prior to 1850 and were buried in a family plot in Telfair. If they were small children, it bothers me that there is only the one payment made to them (the one you mention in 1847). If William needed a guardian in 1847, he, at least, was still a minor, and because their mother, Lucretia, was only 38 on the 1850 census, I suspect that they all were. If they lived to majority, there should be a final distribution payment made to each one upon their either marrying (the girls), or reaching the age of 21. Up until that time, there should have been either yearly payments made for their benefit from their father's estate or some record of a final settlement to their guardians on their behalf if their father's property were sold or depleted. What sort of bill was paid on Zilpha's behalf by the court in 1847? Clothing? Doctor? Were there any payments made to anyone later than 1847 on the daughters' behalf? If they had married prior to reaching the age of 21, any distributive payments due them would have been made in their husbands' names, but those receipts should show who the payments were actually for. Maybe look each receipt over again carefully for any clues. As for their daughter, Lucretia, who married Anderson Fussell, my best guess is that they were cousins. Anderson's father, William Fussell, was living near Jacob (and James) Fussell in 1820 Duplin County, North Carolina. For something concrete, you might check for any Fussell estate records in both Duplin County and in Irwin County, Georgia to see if Jacob and William shared in the estate of a common Fussell. Good luck. Linda in Marietta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emma Sanders" <[email protected]> To: "Telfair County Georgia" <[email protected]> Cc: "Georgia M. List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: [GEORGIA] What happened to these Cummings Children? > Lucretia Studstill married James Cummings and had three known children before he died ca. 1844. Lucretia married Jacob Fussell in Telfair Co., May 11, 1847, approximately two years after the death of her first husband, James Cummings. > > > > William Cummings was alive on Nov. 1, 1847 when his stepfather Jacob Fussell was appointed his guardian, (Telfair Co. Ordinary and Estate Records, Administrators and Guardians Bonds, 1831-1863, Book H, page 64). > > Rebecca Cummings was alive in 1847 when an accounting of her father, James Cummings' estate was recorded and states that she received payment of $11.70, (Telfair Co. Ordinary and Estate Records, Administrators and Guardians Bonds, 1831-1863, Book H, page 64. > > > > Zilpha Cummings was alive in 1848 when an accounting of her father, James Cummings' estate was recorded and states that a bill was paid on her behalf, (Telfair Co. Ordinary and Estate Records, Administrators and Guardians Bonds, 1831-1863, Book H, page 102). > > > > Where did this Cummings family go after 1847? Have found no record on any of them past 1847. A real mystery to me. > > Also need information on Lucretia Fussell who married Anderson Fussell. How do they fall in with the above family? > > Any help will be much appreciated. > > > > Emma > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lucretia Studstill married James Cummings and had three known children before he died ca. 1844. Lucretia married Jacob Fussell in Telfair Co., May 11, 1847, approximately two years after the death of her first husband, James Cummings. William Cummings was alive on Nov. 1, 1847 when his stepfather Jacob Fussell was appointed his guardian, (Telfair Co. Ordinary and Estate Records, Administrators and Guardians Bonds, 1831-1863, Book H, page 64). Rebecca Cummings was alive in 1847 when an accounting of her father, James Cummings' estate was recorded and states that she received payment of $11.70, (Telfair Co. Ordinary and Estate Records, Administrators and Guardians Bonds, 1831-1863, Book H, page 64. Zilpha Cummings was alive in 1848 when an accounting of her father, James Cummings' estate was recorded and states that a bill was paid on her behalf, (Telfair Co. Ordinary and Estate Records, Administrators and Guardians Bonds, 1831-1863, Book H, page 102). Where did this Cummings family go after 1847? Have found no record on any of them past 1847. A real mystery to me. Also need information on Lucretia Fussell who married Anderson Fussell. How do they fall in with the above family? Any help will be much appreciated. Emma

Lucretia Studstill married James Cummings and had three known children before he died ca. 1844. Lucretia married Jacob Fussell in Telfair Co., May 11, 1847, approximately two years after the death of her first husband, James Cummings. William Cummings was alive on Nov. 1, 1847 when his stepfather Jacob Fussell was appointed his guardian, (Telfair Co. Ordinary and Estate Records, Administrators and Guardians Bonds, 1831-1863, Book H, page 64). Rebecca Cummings was alive in 1847 when an accounting of her father, James Cummings' estate was recorded and states that she received payment of $11.70, (Telfair Co. Ordinary and Estate Records, Administrators and Guardians Bonds, 1831-1863, Book H, page 64. Zilpha Cummings was alive in 1848 when an accounting of her father, James Cummings' estate was recorded and states that a bill was paid on her behalf, (Telfair Co. Ordinary and Estate Records, Administrators and Guardians Bonds, 1831-1863, Book H, page 102). Also need information on Lucretia Fussell who married Anderson Fussell. How do they fall in with the above family? Any help will be much appreciated. Emma

Thank you so much for your list of Kitchens, I have tried to fit our Benjamin with these families and he just doesn't fit. Thanks again, Gwen Kitchens

Thanks, I don't know. I need to check the Tice census records this week. Martha may have been Mary Jane "Molly" sister. Thanks, I appreciate your help. ---- Joseph Cercy <[email protected]> wrote: > > I found a Martha Tice who married Michael Gore in Paulding Co. 30 Aug 1863. > Could she have been widowed? > > >From: <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [GEORGIA] Tice & Baskerville > >Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:33:56 -0700 > > > >I'm looking for the marriage record of: > > > >Seaborn Tice and Matilda __?__ (1808SC-1891GA) in GA > > > >They had a daughter Mary "Molly" Jane Tice born in 1843 in Lincoln Co, GA > >and died 1906 in Richmond Co, GA. She married Robert Edward BASKERVILLE > >(1837-SC-1904 GA) 1869 in Augusta, Richmond Co, GA. > > > >Could anyone please help me? > > > >Thanks, Diane > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC.  Get a free 90-day trial! > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail >

I found a Martha Tice who married Michael Gore in Paulding Co. 30 Aug 1863. Could she have been widowed? >From: <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [GEORGIA] Tice & Baskerville >Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:33:56 -0700 > >I'm looking for the marriage record of: > >Seaborn Tice and Matilda __?__ (1808SC-1891GA) in GA > >They had a daughter Mary "Molly" Jane Tice born in 1843 in Lincoln Co, GA >and died 1906 in Richmond Co, GA. She married Robert Edward BASKERVILLE >(1837-SC-1904 GA) 1869 in Augusta, Richmond Co, GA. > >Could anyone please help me? > >Thanks, Diane > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC.  Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail