One suggestion: The KansasCity-L for the greater KC area is a pretty active group. If you care to join and post to it, subscribe at: KANSASCITY-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com If you don't want to join, I would be glad to edit your message to the GEORGE- L group for the KC group and post it for you. I'm never sure if answers go to non-list members when I do that, but I'm willing if you are. Nancy