Message text written by AlRose509@aol.com > 1 William George b: Unknown d: Unknown . +Alice Wintermier b: Unknown d: Unknown .... 2 Helen Florence George b: 24 Mar, 1892 England d: Mar 1980 in RI, USA < Are you Alfred "Butch" Rose jnr (a guess from your tree)? I have collected quite a number of stray events, especially of GEORGEs, almost all in England. I don't have a match for Helen Florence (most of my information is earlier then this), I have a couple of possibles for William - but it's quite a common name about that time, so its still very doubtful. Do you have any info at all about say, whereabouts Helen Florence lived in England? The name GEORGE is quite common in the south west of England, but I even have one possible William from where I live in Yorkshire, in the north east! My GEORGE family lived in Bushley, Worcestershire, for many years until Thomas (my ggrand father ) moved to Gloucester - not all that far, about 1850. Good luck with your search Colin Spiller West Yorkshire