I certainly had my fill of raking leaves. Multiple hand blisters to prove it. Forgot my gloves. LOL Go to ROOTSWEB HOME PAGE & look for Help FAQs & Help-Related Resources <http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com> You will find messages posted such as the one below. Mail Lists: 2004-11-03 One of our mailing list servers (LISTS5) is again partaking in conniptions of a disruptive nature. To allow us to review the situation, this server has been taken off-line for maintenance. There is no estimate of the time that the server will be off-line. Hope this helps? Kathy