There is a 1855 Wisconsin State census. Shari ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Bliss" <myfamroots@adelphia.net> To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [GenWisc] Dr. William & Adeline KNAPP > I know she was living in Walworth county in 1850 and I know where she is > buried. I hadn't thought about churches ... I'll have to find which ones are > the oldest in Whitewater and start there. I get back to Wisc every couple of > years or so. Most of my family still lives there. > > I also started checking Knapp's in Walworth County and found one family that > is a possible match. The oldest child is age 28 in 1850 and the next one is > age 18. My Amanda, at age 25, would fit. Since she married in 1846, she > wouldn't appear in the household. It's a long shot and I'm not quite sure > how to confirm it. I also haven't checked probate, tho I doubt I'll find > anything. > > Thanks for the help. > Lynne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "marilyn Stulken" <mstulken@wi.net> > To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 8:18 PM > Subject: Re: [GenWisc] Dr. William & Adeline KNAPP > > > > One possibility--were you able to discover from the 1850 census exactly > where > > she was living in Wisconsin? Do you know whether she was a church member > and, > > if so, what denomination? And is there a church of that denomination in > the > > community? If so, do its records go back to 1850? > > > > That's lots of "ifs." Just a thought. Good luck! > > > > Marilyn > > > > Lynne Bliss wrote: > > > > > Maybe some mistakes were meant to be. My Amanda Knapp was b. 1825 in New > > > York but family tradition has listed has as from Ohio. She is my brick > wall, > > > as she died in 1858 in Wisconsin -- too early for obits or death index. > And > > > the 1850 census doesn't list parents' birthplaces. So I have no idea who > her > > > parents were. Any help would be greatly appreciated on where I should > look > > > next. > > > > > > BTW, Sue, I live in Colorado Springs. > > > > > > Lynne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sue VanCleave" <suzannevancleave@comcast.net> > > > To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:09 PM > > > Subject: [GenWisc] Dr. William & Adeline KNAPP > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > I'm looking for information on my 2g-grandparents, Dr. William J. & > > > Adeline KNAPP. > > > > > > > > Any help would be appreciated... > > > > > > > > I have very little data on them, here is what I have. > > > > > > > > William J. KNAPP > > > > b. about 1824 in Ohio (found in 1880 Patoka, Marion Co., IL census, he > is > > > listed as 56 yrs old) > > > > occupation: Physician > > > > > > > > Adeline ???? (found in 1880 Patoka, Marion Co., IL census, she is > listed > > > as 42 yrs old) > > > > b. about 1838 in Tennessee > > > > > > > > Children from the 1880 census: > > > > Retta or Bertha N. KNAPP (22 yrs, Illinois, school teacher) > > > > Mariah E. KNAPP (21 yrs, Illinois, school teacher) > > > > Jeneva or Geneva E. KNAPP (19 yrs, Illinois) > > > > William L. KNAPP (17 yrs, Illinois) > > > > Losala or Lorala T. KNAPP (15 yrs, Illinois) > > > > Myslie or Myrtle M. KNAPP (13 yrs, Illinois) > > > > Susan P. KNAPP (8 yrs, Illinois) > > > > Hugh R. KNAPP (6 yrs, Illinois) > > > > * Mary Ellen KNAPP (3 yrs, Illinois) [my great-grandmother, b. 14 > April > > > 1878 Illinois, d. 25 June 1944 Oklahoma] > > > > Hank or Frank O. KNAPP (1 yr, Illinois) > > > > > > > > Thanks In Advance.. > > > > Suzanne VanCleave > > > > Federal Heights, Colorado > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > > > > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > > > > email: kingsley@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > > > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > > > email: kingsley@aol.com > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > > email: kingsley@aol.com > > > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > email: kingsley@aol.com >

One possibility--were you able to discover from the 1850 census exactly where she was living in Wisconsin? Do you know whether she was a church member and, if so, what denomination? And is there a church of that denomination in the community? If so, do its records go back to 1850? That's lots of "ifs." Just a thought. Good luck! Marilyn Lynne Bliss wrote: > Maybe some mistakes were meant to be. My Amanda Knapp was b. 1825 in New > York but family tradition has listed has as from Ohio. She is my brick wall, > as she died in 1858 in Wisconsin -- too early for obits or death index. And > the 1850 census doesn't list parents' birthplaces. So I have no idea who her > parents were. Any help would be greatly appreciated on where I should look > next. > > BTW, Sue, I live in Colorado Springs. > > Lynne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue VanCleave" <suzannevancleave@comcast.net> > To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:09 PM > Subject: [GenWisc] Dr. William & Adeline KNAPP > > > Hi! > > > > I'm looking for information on my 2g-grandparents, Dr. William J. & > Adeline KNAPP. > > > > Any help would be appreciated... > > > > I have very little data on them, here is what I have. > > > > William J. KNAPP > > b. about 1824 in Ohio (found in 1880 Patoka, Marion Co., IL census, he is > listed as 56 yrs old) > > occupation: Physician > > > > Adeline ???? (found in 1880 Patoka, Marion Co., IL census, she is listed > as 42 yrs old) > > b. about 1838 in Tennessee > > > > Children from the 1880 census: > > Retta or Bertha N. KNAPP (22 yrs, Illinois, school teacher) > > Mariah E. KNAPP (21 yrs, Illinois, school teacher) > > Jeneva or Geneva E. KNAPP (19 yrs, Illinois) > > William L. KNAPP (17 yrs, Illinois) > > Losala or Lorala T. KNAPP (15 yrs, Illinois) > > Myslie or Myrtle M. KNAPP (13 yrs, Illinois) > > Susan P. KNAPP (8 yrs, Illinois) > > Hugh R. KNAPP (6 yrs, Illinois) > > * Mary Ellen KNAPP (3 yrs, Illinois) [my great-grandmother, b. 14 April > 1878 Illinois, d. 25 June 1944 Oklahoma] > > Hank or Frank O. KNAPP (1 yr, Illinois) > > > > Thanks In Advance.. > > Suzanne VanCleave > > Federal Heights, Colorado > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > > email: kingsley@aol.com > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > email: kingsley@aol.com

I know she was living in Walworth county in 1850 and I know where she is buried. I hadn't thought about churches ... I'll have to find which ones are the oldest in Whitewater and start there. I get back to Wisc every couple of years or so. Most of my family still lives there. I also started checking Knapp's in Walworth County and found one family that is a possible match. The oldest child is age 28 in 1850 and the next one is age 18. My Amanda, at age 25, would fit. Since she married in 1846, she wouldn't appear in the household. It's a long shot and I'm not quite sure how to confirm it. I also haven't checked probate, tho I doubt I'll find anything. Thanks for the help. Lynne ----- Original Message ----- From: "marilyn Stulken" <mstulken@wi.net> To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [GenWisc] Dr. William & Adeline KNAPP > One possibility--were you able to discover from the 1850 census exactly where > she was living in Wisconsin? Do you know whether she was a church member and, > if so, what denomination? And is there a church of that denomination in the > community? If so, do its records go back to 1850? > > That's lots of "ifs." Just a thought. Good luck! > > Marilyn > > Lynne Bliss wrote: > > > Maybe some mistakes were meant to be. My Amanda Knapp was b. 1825 in New > > York but family tradition has listed has as from Ohio. She is my brick wall, > > as she died in 1858 in Wisconsin -- too early for obits or death index. And > > the 1850 census doesn't list parents' birthplaces. So I have no idea who her > > parents were. Any help would be greatly appreciated on where I should look > > next. > > > > BTW, Sue, I live in Colorado Springs. > > > > Lynne > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sue VanCleave" <suzannevancleave@comcast.net> > > To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:09 PM > > Subject: [GenWisc] Dr. William & Adeline KNAPP > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > I'm looking for information on my 2g-grandparents, Dr. William J. & > > Adeline KNAPP. > > > > > > Any help would be appreciated... > > > > > > I have very little data on them, here is what I have. > > > > > > William J. KNAPP > > > b. about 1824 in Ohio (found in 1880 Patoka, Marion Co., IL census, he is > > listed as 56 yrs old) > > > occupation: Physician > > > > > > Adeline ???? (found in 1880 Patoka, Marion Co., IL census, she is listed > > as 42 yrs old) > > > b. about 1838 in Tennessee > > > > > > Children from the 1880 census: > > > Retta or Bertha N. KNAPP (22 yrs, Illinois, school teacher) > > > Mariah E. KNAPP (21 yrs, Illinois, school teacher) > > > Jeneva or Geneva E. KNAPP (19 yrs, Illinois) > > > William L. KNAPP (17 yrs, Illinois) > > > Losala or Lorala T. KNAPP (15 yrs, Illinois) > > > Myslie or Myrtle M. KNAPP (13 yrs, Illinois) > > > Susan P. KNAPP (8 yrs, Illinois) > > > Hugh R. KNAPP (6 yrs, Illinois) > > > * Mary Ellen KNAPP (3 yrs, Illinois) [my great-grandmother, b. 14 April > > 1878 Illinois, d. 25 June 1944 Oklahoma] > > > Hank or Frank O. KNAPP (1 yr, Illinois) > > > > > > Thanks In Advance.. > > > Suzanne VanCleave > > > Federal Heights, Colorado > > > > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > > > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > > > email: kingsley@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > > email: kingsley@aol.com > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > email: kingsley@aol.com > >

Maybe some mistakes were meant to be. My Amanda Knapp was b. 1825 in New York but family tradition has listed has as from Ohio. She is my brick wall, as she died in 1858 in Wisconsin -- too early for obits or death index. And the 1850 census doesn't list parents' birthplaces. So I have no idea who her parents were. Any help would be greatly appreciated on where I should look next. BTW, Sue, I live in Colorado Springs. Lynne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue VanCleave" <suzannevancleave@comcast.net> To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:09 PM Subject: [GenWisc] Dr. William & Adeline KNAPP > Hi! > > I'm looking for information on my 2g-grandparents, Dr. William J. & Adeline KNAPP. > > Any help would be appreciated... > > I have very little data on them, here is what I have. > > William J. KNAPP > b. about 1824 in Ohio (found in 1880 Patoka, Marion Co., IL census, he is listed as 56 yrs old) > occupation: Physician > > Adeline ???? (found in 1880 Patoka, Marion Co., IL census, she is listed as 42 yrs old) > b. about 1838 in Tennessee > > Children from the 1880 census: > Retta or Bertha N. KNAPP (22 yrs, Illinois, school teacher) > Mariah E. KNAPP (21 yrs, Illinois, school teacher) > Jeneva or Geneva E. KNAPP (19 yrs, Illinois) > William L. KNAPP (17 yrs, Illinois) > Losala or Lorala T. KNAPP (15 yrs, Illinois) > Myslie or Myrtle M. KNAPP (13 yrs, Illinois) > Susan P. KNAPP (8 yrs, Illinois) > Hugh R. KNAPP (6 yrs, Illinois) > * Mary Ellen KNAPP (3 yrs, Illinois) [my great-grandmother, b. 14 April 1878 Illinois, d. 25 June 1944 Oklahoma] > Hank or Frank O. KNAPP (1 yr, Illinois) > > Thanks In Advance.. > Suzanne VanCleave > Federal Heights, Colorado > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > email: kingsley@aol.com > >

I live in Wisconsin also on the east coast. Have a great day! Holly Kohls -----Original Message----- From: marilyn Stulken [mailto:mstulken@wi.net] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 12:04 AM To: GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GenWisc] 1885 Wisconsin Death? Yes, I do. Heart's Desire wrote: > Marilyn, > Do you live in Wisconsin? > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > email: kingsley@aol.com ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore email: kingsley@aol.com

Yes, I do. Heart's Desire wrote: > Marilyn, > Do you live in Wisconsin? > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > email: kingsley@aol.com

OOps sorry that didn't work the way it was supposed to. http://www.mnhs.org/index.htm Laura

Minnesota Historical Society Here is another site for Minnesota. Laura

Thank you!! Marilyn Heart's Desire wrote: > Barron County also had a HUGE influx of Norwegians. > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > email: kingsley@aol.com

Try this site. They have WI death index 1959-1979 and also other states including Calif. http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

Marilyn, Do you live in Wisconsin?

Barron County also had a HUGE influx of Norwegians.

Thanks, Cami! That's very helpful and will give me a focused place to start. Marilyn CamiB@aol.com wrote: > Hi Marilyn! > > I haven't seen this suggested yet, so I thought I'd throw this out in case it > helps. > > I don't know how big the lumbering industry was in Jackson County, but I know > Jackson County had a very large Norwegian immigrant population. I have two > Norwegian families, HANSON (who were STUBRUD before emigrating) and BENSON (who > were IVERSON before emigrating). In the BENSON family, Simon BENSON (my > gr-great grandmother's brother) became a giant in the lumber industry out in the > Pacific Northwest, and his father Berger IVERSON/BENSON, worked in lumber camps > in the Black River Falls, Jackson Co., area after emigrating in 1867, > according to a book on Simon BENSON. I also have a GREEN family in the area who > owned a mill. > > The Black River Falls library has an excellent history section, and the > history librarian is very helpful. > > Good luck! > > Cami > > <<I looking for a needle in a haystack. I am seeking information about > Abraham > Olson/Olsen Mjeld, who immigrated from Norway in 1882 and, according to family > information, died in a logging accident in Wisconsin in 1885. I am > particularly > interested in learning where in Wisconsin he lived. > > Does anyone have any suggestions for finding him? Does anyone have > information on > which Wisconsin counties had logging industries in 1885? > > Thanks. > Marilyn>> > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > email: kingsley@aol.com

Here's what I use: http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi?o_xid=0028727949&o_lid=0028727949 Marilyn Loretta Eichmann wrote: > so What is the address of the Ca death records > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > email: kingsley@aol.com

Rosemary, I disagree. Though the fire subject is of no use to me genealogically as I haven't anyone involved, I find the link fascinating and very helpful, and isn't that what this list is for?

Hi Marilyn! I haven't seen this suggested yet, so I thought I'd throw this out in case it helps. I don't know how big the lumbering industry was in Jackson County, but I know Jackson County had a very large Norwegian immigrant population. I have two Norwegian families, HANSON (who were STUBRUD before emigrating) and BENSON (who were IVERSON before emigrating). In the BENSON family, Simon BENSON (my gr-great grandmother's brother) became a giant in the lumber industry out in the Pacific Northwest, and his father Berger IVERSON/BENSON, worked in lumber camps in the Black River Falls, Jackson Co., area after emigrating in 1867, according to a book on Simon BENSON. I also have a GREEN family in the area who owned a mill. The Black River Falls library has an excellent history section, and the history librarian is very helpful. Good luck! Cami <<I looking for a needle in a haystack. I am seeking information about Abraham Olson/Olsen Mjeld, who immigrated from Norway in 1882 and, according to family information, died in a logging accident in Wisconsin in 1885. I am particularly interested in learning where in Wisconsin he lived. Does anyone have any suggestions for finding him? Does anyone have information on which Wisconsin counties had logging industries in 1885? Thanks. Marilyn>>

Well now, this horse has been beaten to death.

Peshtigo Fire sites http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/Fire.htm This link tells the story of the fire. http://www.idbsu.edu/history/ncasner/hy210/peshtigo.htm This link has the Fire Museum and to the left obits for 2004 http://www.peshtigotimes.com/FireMuseum.html This is a nice site for Oconto County, Wisconsin http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim and Brian Wright" <kbwright1987@msn.com> To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [GenWisc] Find 1885 Wisconsin death? > The Peshtigo Fire was October 8, 1871. > > >From: marilyn Stulken <mstulken@wi.net> > >Reply-To: GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com > >To: GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [GenWisc] Find 1885 Wisconsin death? > >Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:15:46 -0500 > > > >Thanks, Rosemarie! This is all I have. This man was a great uncle of my > >dear friend Marlene. She's been working with computers at various > >libraries to trace her genealogy, but doesn't have a computer at home. > >Since I've had so much good luck with these email lists myself, I told her > >to give me some names and I'd see what I could find through an email list. > > > >I appreciate the list of counties. I think I'll locate historical > >societies for as many as I can and she can write to them to see if Abraham > >shows up in any of their records. > > > >Was the Peshtigo Fire in 1885? > > > >I appreciate your help, > >Marilyn > > > > > >Heart's Desire wrote: > > > > > Predominant logging industries were in Brown, Marinette, Forest, Vilas, > > > Sawyer, Washburn, Douglas, St. Croix, Dunn, Barron, Rusk & other > > > counties north of Tomah, WI. Are you sure of the 1885 death date? > > > Are you positive he wasn't killed in the Great Peshtigo Fire? If he was > > > killed there you may not find info on him as many victims were > > > unidentified. > > > Can you tell us MORE about him? > > > Rosemarie in Barron County. > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > > > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > > > email: kingsley@aol.com > > > > > >==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > >Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > >email: kingsley@aol.com > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > email: kingsley@aol.com >

The Peshtigo Fire was so huge that flames came here to Door County over the bay! Yes all the way over the bay. At the same time as the Peshtigo Fire was the great Chicago Fire. Have a great day! Holly Kohls -----Original Message----- From: IrisLillie@aol.com [mailto:IrisLillie@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:09 PM To: GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GenWisc] Peshtigo Fire never heard of the fire so I googled it _The Great Peshtigo Fire of 1871_ (http://www.peshtigofire.info/) The Great Peshtigo Fire of 1871. [file:///C:/My Documents/My Webs/peshtigo-fire/ includes/main_nav.htm]. Peshtigo, Wisconsin, October 8, 1871. ... www.peshtigofire.info/ - 9k - Oct 5, 2004 - _Cached_ (http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:TP_yjEuj9qoJ:www.peshtigofire.info /+Peshtigo+Fire&hl=en&ie=UTF-8) - _Similar pages_ (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=related:www.peshtigof ire.info/) ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore email: kingsley@aol.com

so What is the address of the Ca death records