In a message dated 7/19/00 8:39:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, GenWisconsin-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I'm sorry you are having trouble finding 3750 bios on the WI site. Perhaps this will help: <A HREF="http://www.genexchange.org/bioreg.cfm?state=WI">Cli c k here: WIGenExchange - Biographies</A> Also please try a search in your browser for "Net Etiquette." >> Kathy, I think you are doing a great job! I did not find any of my people there but I sure wont complain. Jackie in Oregon where we are obviously more appreciative,

Nancy-- You were asking what form you needed to request information on your civil war ancestor. I found some of mine in there and emailed the ARC(Area Research Center) in the area in which the individual lived. They sent me the information and I sent them money. Sincerely, Jacqueline rae-sack@worldnet.att.net

In a message dated 07/19/2000 9:53:11 PM Central Daylight Time, IrisLillie@aol.com writes: << none of mine will ever show up on Dunn County Bio's (unless they have been real sneaky) >> You never know Iris! Seems like I've been chasing the same core group of "early settlers" from one county to the next. Wish they'd "settle" already! Biggest reasons for movement seem to be getting a wife or a job, or responding to Government land going on the market. I bet if I took a map and wrote the date on every county when land came on the market, it would show a path taken by many. Seems some made an occupation out of buying Gov't land and clearing it, then reselling. Hard way to make a living if you ask me! Best regards, Cathy Kubly State Coordinator, WIGenExchange ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ WIGenExchange (select desired county or record type) http://www.genexchange.org/state.cfm?state=wi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Help Keep Genealogy Free For Online Genealogists http://www.genexchange.org/volunteers.cfm#cc

I have found that entries which should say Sheboygan Co., say "StCr". I wonder if there are any more counties addressed wrong... Bonnie Hartmann Laguna Beach

WOW! That is so nasty I'm surprised it's spelled correctly. Customer list! Advertisement! Jeepers, am I going to have to pay you too, Cathy, besides admiring all the work you do? Funny thing, I've hardly ever noticed Texicans having massive inferiority complexes. Maybe this fellow only recently moved there...from Afghanistan. Petty, petty, petty male, and probably the one who knocked down the 85 year old who was walking too slow. Not the one who volunteers for church or youth groups or park cleanup, but, rather, the one the community cleans up after. The community values what you do, Cathy, as well as the other amazing volunteers, even individuals who keep their mouths shut and their hands off the computer keys when they also, like petty Texas, don't find their ancestors on the county bios. Breathe deep. Airwaves are still free and that jerk is incapable of running anything. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenneville@aol.com wrote: > SORRY !!! > > Your advertisement indicated that you already had material available. > Perhaps since you're dealing with less than average people when compared to > yourself, you should send out more clear information to us dummies. You also > need to take a crash course in customer relations. You can cross my name off > your prospective customer list. > > Bob Lenneville > San Antonio, Texas > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ====

Is this the wrong address? My server says as written I cannot go there. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------ joanne lawlor wrote: > There is a very interesting site > http://www.htmgv.org/museum/ypit/index.html. If anyone is researching > the 20th century along with their family history. Jo > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ====

In a message dated 7/19/00 6:42:49 PM Central Daylight Time, jlawlor@uswest.net writes: << I'm glad he took his name off the list - sounds like a genealogist who hasn't been doing research for very long. After all, without all of your help, where would we be? >> They never take their name off... at least not right away.... Meanies want to see if they made their target cry..... You can bet he is reading our responses.

Keep up the good work Cathy. It is appreciated by many. Talking about spelling variations there are 10 ways to spell my surname Domrose but the funny one is looking for a Stuckmaier marriage for over 10 years, then finally learning the brides name and searching under her name you find it except that an i was placed where the u should have been. It was so funny to me to find Stick instead of Stuck so I now try everything.....even inventing my own alphabet if I have to. Cathie "Every wall is a door." – Emerson

I didn't find my ancestors.... I am bitter... of course I don't think they ever even lived in Dunn County, but I think I am supposed to blame someone after reading the letter from Texas.... Ummmm is it Cathy I blame? AOL?? Ancestry?? Cathy... even tho none of mine will ever show up on Dunn County Bio's (unless they have been real sneaky) I thank you and everyone else that takes the time to help get information out..... Iris

----- Original Message ----- From: "Leanne" <magdalyn@xta.com> To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 1:57 PM Subject: [GenWisconsin] oh, everything > Leanne Mitchell I thank you for the help. I don't have the name problem "So Far" but the dates are about to drive me Crazier than I already am. A lady sent to get my Grandfathers death cert. And they just looked at the last name because the rest of it is wrong. You take care. Bud in Alaska > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > > >

In a message dated 7/19/00 7:28:17 PM Mountain Daylight Time, canuck@gol.com writes: << silence is the best medicine for people like him. >> I agree.

Excellent advice! Some things never change. Women still tend to lie about their age - just can't get away with it like they used to! ;-) Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Leanne <magdalyn@xta.com> To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 3:57 PM Subject: [GenWisconsin] oh, everything > Hello everyone, > Cathy, you have taken on a tremendous task, and I'd like to say I > appreciate everything you do. I would suggest that everyone look at the > state coordinator job description, for lack of better wording. I took one > look and knew I couldn't do it. It's unbelievable. > As far as not finding your ancestors...I have had the same problem. It > is not with the way info. is currently entered into the database. It is how > it is originally done, many moons ago. I have the surname MEIER, for > example. I've also seen it spelled MEYER, MEIERS, AND MEYERS, and if that > isn't enough, I have an average of 3 birth years for at least 3 of my > ancestors. Now as if THAT weren't enough, I've found a lead that the name > may actually have been HOHEMEIER. I've come up with a solution, and it has > saved my sanity... > > 1. Make a list of all surnames you are researching. > 2. Write down every possible variation, including phonetic. (bear with me, > I'm serious here. It helped me tremendously.) > 3. When checking by birth year, always go + or - 5 years. And if it is a > year such as 1854, check 1864. Back then, they used pencils, > inkwells...manually inking pens skipped like crazy, and pencil fades. > > I hope these tips help someone out. Using the info. above, I've actually > come out ahead in some searches...including a ggAunt who, for whatever > reason, lied about her age. She was 4 years older than she let on. What a > stinker. > Anyway, Good Luck to Everyone. > Leanne Mitchell > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > >

Hello everyone, Cathy, you have taken on a tremendous task, and I'd like to say I appreciate everything you do. I would suggest that everyone look at the state coordinator job description, for lack of better wording. I took one look and knew I couldn't do it. It's unbelievable. As far as not finding your ancestors...I have had the same problem. It is not with the way info. is currently entered into the database. It is how it is originally done, many moons ago. I have the surname MEIER, for example. I've also seen it spelled MEYER, MEIERS, AND MEYERS, and if that isn't enough, I have an average of 3 birth years for at least 3 of my ancestors. Now as if THAT weren't enough, I've found a lead that the name may actually have been HOHEMEIER. I've come up with a solution, and it has saved my sanity... 1. Make a list of all surnames you are researching. 2. Write down every possible variation, including phonetic. (bear with me, I'm serious here. It helped me tremendously.) 3. When checking by birth year, always go + or - 5 years. And if it is a year such as 1854, check 1864. Back then, they used pencils, inkwells...manually inking pens skipped like crazy, and pencil fades. I hope these tips help someone out. Using the info. above, I've actually come out ahead in some searches...including a ggAunt who, for whatever reason, lied about her age. She was 4 years older than she let on. What a stinker. Anyway, Good Luck to Everyone. Leanne Mitchell

Bud, I haven't been totally successful in finding birth records of many of my ancestors from that time period either. They weren't required to keep records then. I found that the churches were probably the best source of keeping records. Eventually the records were recorded at the County level and then it became a requirement of the State to have records sent to Madison. Besides church records, I have found it very helpful to check local newspapers to read the "local gossip" and have found information on deaths, even though it was not the "official death record". If you know the area, you could check with the Wis. Historical Society and try to obtain a copy of the microfilm that would have the newspaper on microfilm from that time period. I found my g-g-grandfather's news article of his death but his name was written the way it was pronounced in German. I almost missed it! In Wisconsin, we can look at microfilms at the larger libraries and/or borrow them through inter-library loan. The larger college libraries have research centers, as well - like Madison, Green Bay and Oshkosh, WI and depending on the county your relatives lived, they may have a record on an Index. Also, check various spellings of the name. Recently I discovered a marriage record for a relative who was living in a neighboring county (never thought of that!). I also was searching under the husband's name and when I finally put in the my g-grandmother's name (which was surprisingly spelled correctly!), their record came up (through LDS) and his last name was close, but spelled wrong. It wasn't even pronounced the same! But, the marriage year was correct and the general location was correct, so I figure I had a match. They didn't spell well in those days; many couldn't read or write either. Just keep checking back to the Wisconsin sites. They are doing a terrific job of getting data online. It takes a lot of time to put this information out where others can get to it and many volunteer their time. I hope that you will eventually find what you are looking for. Perhaps you could post in what area you are looking for your grandfather's and his twin brother's birth records. There are many people who are willing to check local records or other resources available. Just ask. Most Wisconsinites are very courteous, generous and helpful people! Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Bud Reel <budr@ptialaska.net> To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [GenWisconsin] Free birth index on ancestry.com for Wisconsin 1822-1907 > I know that Ancestry.com is a good Site but I find that it lacks a lot of > being Complete. My Grandfather ( Cyrus J Whitney) and his Twin Brother > Sanford B Whitney) Born August 1860. Neither one of them are listed. Bud in > Alaska > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kirk & Cheryl Morschauser" <kcmorsch@execpc.com> > To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 7:17 PM > Subject: [GenWisconsin] Free birth index on ancestry.com for Wisconsin > 1822-1907 > > > > Many of you may be interested to know that Ancestry.com currently has the > > Wisconsin birth database FREE for the next 10 days, July 17 thru July 27. > I > > just happened to be browsing and couldn't believe my eyes!! > > > > Here's the URL: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4750.htm > > > > Happy Hunting!! > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > >

While looking up my grandmothers birth record on ancestry.coms free for 10 day offer on the Pre 1907 Wi Birth Index it listed her as Frances CILKE. On her actual birth certificate it clearly says Frances CYLKA. The dates of birth were the same on both. So check all variations of spelling. Mary Jo Douglass Researching: JANUSZ, JAREMBA, PANEK, WAIER ZILKE, SIKORA, SZMYT/SCHMIDT, MAKURAT, MACIEJEWSKI in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. JAREMBA & WAIER in Manistee, Michigan DOUGLASS, BRUNER, DAVISON, in NY, Iowa and Kansas. STANSBURY in Illinois & Kansas

I found an ancestor (I think:-) on Ancestry in the Civil War Pension Records database. Someone recently wrote that we should send for documents at NARA before September 1, 2000 as their prices were going up then. What form do I need to request so I can send for this ancestor's Civil War info?? I believe he was in the Ohio infantry but his widow applied for the pension from Illinois. Thanks for your help in advance:-) Nancy Wood NLWOOD52@aol.com

I totally agree. I haven't been fortunate enough to have found any bios on my family - yet, but that isn't your fault Cathy. I will continue to search. By receiving all requests and/or queries from this site, I have received numerous helpful tips from others which guide me into different directions which, sometimes, provides information I didn't have. This has been a tremendous help! Keep up the good work! There are many of us who appreciate your efforts - whether we are in Wisconsin or not. Thanks Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Kitty Rose <auntie@netins.net> To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [GenWisconsin] Dunn County Biographies > Hello Cathy, > Don't let anyone get under your skin , your doing a great job, and the most > of us appreciate your efforts. Just remember you can't please everyone all > the time, just be pleased with yourself and take pride in what your doing, > to He-- with the whiners, there's always a few. > Have a great day Cathy, and again let me say your doing a great job. > Helen STRAIGHT > (aka Kitty Rose) > auntie@netins.net > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > >

In a message dated 07/19/2000 5:37:52 PM Central Daylight Time, Lenneville@aol.com writes: << SORRY !!! Your advertisement indicated that you already had material available. Perhaps since you're dealing with less than average people when compared to yourself, you should send out more clear information to us dummies. You also need to take a crash course in customer relations. You can cross my name off your prospective customer list. Bob Lenneville San Antonio, Texas >> Dear Bob, I'm sorry you are having trouble finding 3750 bios on the WI site. Perhaps this will help: <A HREF="http://www.genexchange.org/bioreg.cfm?state=WI">Clic k here: WIGenExchange - Biographies</A> Also please try a search in your browser for "Net Etiquette." Best regards, Cathy Kubly State Coordinator, WIGenExchange ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ WIGenExchange (select desired county or record type) http://www.genexchange.org/state.cfm?state=wi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Help Keep Genealogy Free For Online Genealogists http://www.genexchange.org/volunteers.cfm#cc

Hi Leanne and everyone, Thanks for the encouragement! (Sometimes I think I have rocks for brains being an SC.) Thanks too for the good advice on checking all the name variations and a span of years. If you ever get disheartened, I'll trade ancestors with you... try John Williams, married, of course, to someone named, what else... Mary. Almost as bad as looking for Ole Olson in Norway! Best regards, Cathy Kubly State Coordinator, WIGenExchange ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ WIGenExchange (select desired county or record type) http://www.genexchange.org/state.cfm?state=wi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Help Keep Genealogy Free For Online Genealogists http://www.genexchange.org/volunteers.cfm#cc

SORRY !!! Your advertisement indicated that you already had material available. Perhaps since you're dealing with less than average people when compared to yourself, you should send out more clear information to us dummies. You also need to take a crash course in customer relations. You can cross my name off your prospective customer list. Bob Lenneville San Antonio, Texas