In a message dated 07/20/2000 10:34:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, CKubly9527@aol.com writes: > Just finishing up Wood Co. Jackson is next! YAHOO!! Norma

In a message dated 07/20/2000 5:01:38 PM Central Daylight Time, steinv@online.no writes: << What kind of book is this and how to get it? These volumes were published in 1881 and I haven't seen any for sale. I got them from the public library. <> If you can find his obituary, it will list his children and where they live. That's where I would start. Best regards, Cathy Kubly State Coordinator, WIGenExchange ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ WIGenExchange (select desired county or record type) http://www.genexchange.org/state.cfm?state=wi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Help Keep Genealogy Free For Online Genealogists http://www.genexchange.org/volunteers.cfm#cc

In a message dated 07/22/2000 12:48:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, IrisLillie@aol.com writes: > Write the sites in question and demand the livings information be blocked.... Thanks, Iris. That's a good idea -- I didn't know they would do that. Norma

In a message dated 07/22/2000 4:21:11 AM Central Daylight Time, pattimm@mindspring.com writes: << where Cameron is in conjunction with Black River Falls? >> About 100 miles NE of Black River Falls, just east of 53 on 8. Best regards, Cathy Kubly State Coordinator, WIGenExchange ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ WIGenExchange (select desired county or record type) http://www.genexchange.org/state.cfm?state=wi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Help Keep Genealogy Free For Online Genealogists http://www.genexchange.org/volunteers.cfm#cc

Hi Joan, Looking in the free Social Security Death index, it showed this info. ALMA DISCHER Request Information SSN 321-14-8440 Residence: 54822 Cameron, Barron, WI Born 9 Oct 1921 Last Benefit: Died 5 Dec 1996 (Card) Issued: IL (Before 1951) This may help narrow your search for an obit. Here's the URL in case you don't have it. http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/ssdi/main.htm Good Luck, Jo We recently heard that she died and the last place we > heard she lived at was in Cameron, WI.

Hi: You sound very knowledgrable about copywrite laws. You mean it isn't possible for me to take a picture with my own camera of the home where I was born and put it in my book for our relatives? Any help will be greatly appreicated. Thanks anitag@exis.net -----Original Message----- From: IrisLillie@aol.com <IrisLillie@aol.com> To: GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, June 10, 2000 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [GenWisconsin] Copyright >If you noticed that letter was written by an author... so far I liked the >info from the guy that actually ran afoul of the copywrite laws.. He seem to >know the most and what he seem to say is the info is there for all.... >duplicating it is illegal... so no photocopies without permission.. passing >on the info... is OK... > >Iris > > >==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > >

CARL AND JOHANNA LAESSIG Dodge County, Wisconsin 1870 census lists Carl and Johanna Laessig, both age 62, both born in Saxony. Ernest Laessig, age 26, Father =G. Laessi, Mother=R. Laessig. Louisa Laessig, birthplace Wisconsin. Mary Laessig, age 6 months, daughter of Ernest & Louisa born Dec. 1869. According to LDS: Mary Ann b. 5 Dec. 1860 Horicon, Dodge Co., WI Film # 1760722. Further information on these families sought. Patti Laessig at anaquea@dwave.net

In a message dated 7/22/00 1:31:11 AM Central Daylight Time, NJHERZMAN@aol.com writes: << But I do regret that she didn't even remove the personal information on my grandchildren who are all 21 and under. >> Write the sites in question and demand the livings information be blocked....

Hi All, I'm stuck on this one (the name of a town near LaCrosse in mid 1800's, from the bio of Louis C. JAHREN): "...worked at his trade at Ru-hford, near La Crosse..." I've check the gnis site. Help! Best regards, Cathy Kubly State Coordinator, WIGenExchange ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ WIGenExchange (select desired county or record type) http://www.genexchange.org/state.cfm?state=wi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Help Keep Genealogy Free For Online Genealogists http://www.genexchange.org/volunteers.cfm#cc

In a message dated 07/21/2000 6:43:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, deb@dm.net writes: <Very large Snip here....> > So ... go take them pictures. :) Hi Deb -- Thanks for these words of wisdom and all the information you took the time to write. I appreciate it. I sent alot of my family genealogy to a cousin about a year and a half ago or so and the next thing I knew it was published on the I-net in total without any permission being given or anything even verbal, let alone written. I was enraged at first because I was given no credit at all for more than 30 years work. Then I thought about it and decided that I had done all that work because I wanted to share it with others who might be related. So....silence was golden. But I do regret that she didn't even remove the personal information on my grandchildren who are all 21 and under. Thanks again, Norma Jean Herzman Oregon City, OR

A copyright applies to an original work. So...the plans to the house would be what is copyrighted. A photograph that someone ELSE took of the house would be copyrighted by the photographer, because it is their "work" :) In the case of really WELL KNOWN/famous structure, someone might be able to try to make a claim that the outside appearance of it is a work of art, and, thereby, claim copyright on it. Photographs of sculpture, for instance, have two copyrights, one for the photographer, one for the artist. But all copyrights have a life expectancy, depending on several things. The most cogent explanation of this I've seen is at the Books We Own GenWeb site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~bwo/bwocwp.html Bottom line? Pictures you take of the family home, or the ancestral home that someone else owns ... are copyrighted by you the moment you print them. :) I'd ask permission before taking pictures of someone else's house, though. If you're publishing the address of the home with it, and you aren't the owner, you *might* need to obtain their permission to do that, as well, at least for publishing it, even privately among your own family or the web. That might become a privacy issue. Right now, I'm putting up the entire contents of several old History/Biographies books on the web. Copyright applies here, too: A: The original copyright is long gone, both works are before 1924 B: My typing them in gives them a NEW compilation in a new medium and this becomes a new "work" which is copyrightable as a compilation *and* in electronic format. That's why you will see major collections of data on commercial and non profit sites with a copyright, even though it is public information, or comes from works which have fallen into the public domain. Additionally, people slap copyrights on such large amounts of transcription work to *prevent* a commercial entity from coming in and ripping it out and reselling it. When they didn't do the initial transcription. I have made no decision about whether to slap a copyright on my Central California biographies project or not. I'm sure that those working on the Wisconsin Biographies are in the same dilemna. I've dealt with content management online since 1984 ... which is why I have a bit of a background on copyrights. Mostly how to stay OUT of the crosshairs of attorneys, because I *have* been served with cease and desist orders a number of times. All but one of them was a no brainer, I removed what someone had put up online under false pretentions, they said "Thank you," and it was over. We won't discuss how much that one cost my boss. So ... go take them pictures. :) deb P.S. Wow, two copyright issues on two different lists today! I feel all copyrighted out! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - deb Christensen (deb_msn@msn.com) Graphics Connection Forum http://www.computingcentral.com/topics/graphics/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "anitag" <anitag@exis.net> To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [GenWisconsin] Copyright > Hi: > > You sound very knowledgrable about copywrite laws. You mean it isn't > possible for me to take a picture with my own camera of the home where I was > born and put it in > my book for our relatives? Any help will be greatly appreicated. > > Thanks > anitag@exis.net > -----Original Message----- > From: IrisLillie@aol.com <IrisLillie@aol.com> > To: GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, June 10, 2000 5:38 PM > Subject: Re: [GenWisconsin] Copyright > > > >If you noticed that letter was written by an author... so far I liked the > >info from the guy that actually ran afoul of the copywrite laws.. He seem > to > >know the most and what he seem to say is the info is there for all.... > >duplicating it is illegal... so no photocopies without permission.. > passing > >on the info... is OK... > > > >Iris > > > > > >==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > >

These are German Lineage Books. The German Lineage Book - a Rich Genealogical Source. The Deutsches Geschlechterbuch series contains a myriad of German lineages from all parts of Germany. Checking this wonderful secondary source should be "standard procedure" for the German family researcher. For some information on a article about the Geschlechterbuch see your library for a copy of German Genealogical Digest Vol. 12 No. 2. An article by Horst Reschke desscribe the books and its new general index; and a helpful list of the 202 volumes. Only volumes 1 through 110 have been microfilmed. These are available at the Family History Centers. Many large libraries have Geschlechterbuch. David & Sheri wrote: > > Has anyone used the Deutsche Geschlecterbucher? > I understand they are in German, but figure even I can > read the surname. > I believe these are in Madison at the Memorial Library. > > Can anyone tell me what this book is? I am baffeled and need some help with > this? Thanks so much, Sheri~ In the land of OZ!

Thanks so much Iris. This makes it real easy. Linda -----Original Message----- From: IrisLillie@aol.com [mailto:IrisLillie@aol.com] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 8:45 AM To: GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GenWisconsin] form 180 just came across this.... http://www.nara.gov/regional/mprsf180.html <A HREF="http://www.nara.gov/regional/mprsf180.html">Records Services for the Public and Government Agencies - Standard Form 180 - Request Pertaining to Military Records</A> hope this helps Iris ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ====

Susan, I am from Green Bay, WI. originally and I can tell you that there is a reservation there. It is called the Oneida reservation, if you contact them they may have some info- for you? I'm sorry that's the best I could do for you! Happy hunting! Sheri~ In the land of OZ! ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Hantke-Ogden <s1036503010@mindspring.com> To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 1:18 PM Subject: [GenWisconsin] FROMAN > Does anyone know which tribe/reservation that the surname FROMAN could be > associated with? My grandmother was married to a Richard FROMAN who > stated that he was born in Green Bay, Wisconsin in 1867 and his skin was > listed as "red" on the marriage certificate. His father's name was David > FROMAN and his wife was Mary BABCOCK / OR BABRESCH (spelling?). > > Finding out some of this information will answer some questions which are > pertinent to further research. > > Thanks. > Susan > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > > >

Is there anyone researching any Erickson from Finland ?? Especially the Swede-Finn area. Cidney

LOCATING THE TRIBE OF A NATIVE AMERICAN ANCESTOR Families often claim Native American ancestry but can't remember the name of the tribe to which their ancestor belonged. One of the best resources for this kind of information is the Native American Data Center, which is located at http://www.indiandata.com/ This site contains a map that locates the names of the tribes for a specific area during a specific time period. The Native American Data Center also has a terrific collection of Native American genealogy links for locating additional resources, tribal offices, and information about customs and culture. Maybe this site will be of help to you. Good luck Helen STRAIGHT auntie@netins.net

Dear Susan, My best educated guess would be the Oneida Tribe. Brief background--The Oneida Tribe is a mamber of the Iroquois Confederacy which formed in the 1500's. The Oneidas fought on behalf of the Colonies in the Rev. War and as a result of the war and sorted land deals, many Oneidas moved from New York to settle Canada and Wisconsin. In teh 1820's, Oneidas settled along Duck Creek, about 10 miles from the city of Green BAy. In 1934, the Oneidas formed a constitutional government under the Indian Reorganization Act. The Oneida reservation today includes about 5,000 acres with the pop. on or near the reservation approx. 4,400 tribal members. A person whom may be able to assist you is: Deborah Doxtator, Chairperson Oneida Tribe of Indians of Wisconsin P.O. Box 365 Oneida, WI 54155 You might try posting a query here: http://cgi.rootsweb/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Wi/NativeAmerican Good Luck!! Robin Buffalo, NY Susan Hantke-Ogden wrote: > Does anyone know which tribe/reservation that the surname FROMAN could be > associated with? My grandmother was married to a Richard FROMAN who > stated that he was born in Green Bay, Wisconsin in 1867 and his skin was > listed as "red" on the marriage certificate. His father's name was David > FROMAN and his wife was Mary BABCOCK / OR BABRESCH (spelling?). > > Finding out some of this information will answer some questions which are > pertinent to further research. > > Thanks. > Susan > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ====

Hi, I don't have an obit but here is the information from the social security death index on rootsweb.com. ROBERT DISCHER 28 Feb 1920 Feb 1978 (not specified) 54822 (Cameron, Barron, WI) 351-05-1086 Illinois ALMA DISCHER 09 Oct 1921 05 Dec 1996 54822 (Cameron, Barron, WI) (none specified) 321-14-8440 Illinois Donna

Does anyone know which tribe/reservation that the surname FROMAN could be associated with? My grandmother was married to a Richard FROMAN who stated that he was born in Green Bay, Wisconsin in 1867 and his skin was listed as "red" on the marriage certificate. His father's name was David FROMAN and his wife was Mary BABCOCK / OR BABRESCH (spelling?). Finding out some of this information will answer some questions which are pertinent to further research. Thanks. Susan

Kathy , I get an ERROR message when I try to access the Dunn message??Bob