This bit of information will make all of us happy! If we research 6 generations back, we are looking at approximately 125 ancestors. I gotta go get some more manila folders! Joanne

On Thursday, August 10, 2000, ROBBIN B MICHAEL <RBMICHAEL1@prodigy.net> wrote: > Question of the day....Why would five young farmers Leave Sweden and travel > to Florence in 1889? Why did they choose this county? These five men ages > 29 to 21 were from different families and traveled as a group. Was there > possibly jobs that were advertised in Sweden? Any suggestions? Robbin > Looking for Bergstroms and Svensson. Sounds like my family (ANDERS(S)ON, PET(T)ERSON, BJORNBERG/BOMBERG, GILBERT). Northern Wisconsin and Michigan were hotbeds of logging and mining activity in the late 19th century. It wasn't, however, a popular place for previous immigrants due to the cold and terrain. My understanding is that the logging and mining companies specifically advertised in Sweden/Scandinavia to attract willing employees. S R C A cott obert ranston nderson phssra@physics.emory.edu

A while back we invited you to visit our Website The POORHOUSE STORY (which is a clearinghouse for information about 19th century American poorhouses) at http://www.poorhousestory.com We are now pleased to let you know that we have just posted a photograph of the Monroe County Poorhouse on the Wisconsin page at http://www.poorhousestory.com/poorhouses_in_wisconsin.htm It is an incredibly moving photo which evokes a lot of emotion. Thanks, Linda Crannell (aka=The Poorhouse Lady)

Robin I saw your letter. I am not related to the Bergstroms or anything but I do not that there were and are Bergstrom's that live in Neenah. They owned Bergstrom Paper there. I also know that the owner had a place in upper Wisconsin near Mercer if I remember correctly which is really not that far from Florence county. I know the place was like on an island on some lake if I remember correctly from what mother told me she had been there a few times. Now for the question I do know that they had the mines up in that area and that could have what brought them to that area also. There were iron mines in the area up there but I dont know when they opened. I had at one time but its been years since I have been up there. Sorry I couldnt help any further. Lynn

ROBBIN B MICHAEL Said: Question of the day....Why would five young farmers Leave Sweden and travel to Florence in 1889? Why did they choose this county? These five men ages 29 to 21 were from different families and traveled as a group. Was there possibly jobs that were advertised in Sweden? Any suggestions? Robbin Looking for Bergstroms and Svensson. Hi Robbin, Going based on my family who settled in Green Bay, WI. I can tell you that there were often times jobs offered for these families by the R&R and also Shipping just to name two. That intised them to come over to the USA. Along with these jobs often times they were offered land also at a real cheap reduced price. What I have found in my family that when they became established in thier jobs, had made enough money and a house they would send for other members of their family who were waiting to come over to the USA also. I can only go based on my relatives Robbin, nothing formal here. I hope this helps? Sheri From the land of OZ! ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ====

Question of the day....Why would five young farmers Leave Sweden and travel to Florence in 1889? Why did they choose this county? These five men ages 29 to 21 were from different families and traveled as a group. Was there possibly jobs that were advertised in Sweden? Any suggestions? Robbin Looking for Bergstroms and Svensson.

Don't feel bad I had an aunt and uncle with 11 daughters no boys. 30 years ago they had about 120 grandchildren and 80 some gr grandchildren. I have lost contact with them since the middle sixties when my aunt died.. beeves

> Since 1973.................Joanne > > Minipux@aol.com wrote: > > My question is: How long have you been doing genealogy? I think you're > > scaring me! Whew! I've only been at it for a little over 2 years. Should take me a little while to get that deep. Still a scary thought, tho! I hoped to downsize when we retire - not expand! Lita I have gone to find myself. If I get back before I return, please ask me to wait! See some of my accomplishments! <A HREF="http://pages.ivillage.com/misc/pux4/index.html">Pux's Page</A> http://pages.ivillage.com/misc/pux4/index.html <A HREF="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=89621">My PhotoPoint Album</A > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=89621

Sometime in the 1920's naturalization policy changed with regard to women who were married to naturalized citizens. Previously, women became naturalized citizens when the men they were married to became naturalized citizens. With the passage of the women's suffrage amendment, this would have been a dubious legal point. Adult women now applied separately for naturalization. Some women had come to America to join their husbands. He may have made a commitment to stay, and even became a naturalized citizen. She may have hoped to go home, back to the old country, and never got the paperwork going. In WW2, the Japanese-American internments hit these women hard. They were frightened of loosing their families, of being separated, interned, deported. Naturalization applications among long-time resident aliens went up sharply. Ashley ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mel Fletcher wrote: > >> On the 1870 Wausau Census it shows my ancestor > >> George Rhodes, born in England, as being eligible to vote. Would this > >> mean that a person who is eligible to vote has to be a Naturalized > >> Citizen? > > > >NO! In the mid-1800s, one only had to have signed a "Declaration of Intent > >to Become a Citizen" in order to vote. I recently pored over voter rolls > >in Dane County and found many who voted before their citizenship was > >finalized. This was later changed to require citizenship for voting, but > >I'm not sure when. > >Hope this helps, > >Kathy Lenerz > > Hi Kathy, > > You are absolutely right. I just got word from UWSP Archives and they > told me the same thing. The good news they found my George Rhodes > Declaration of Intent. > I'm also curious why folks never bothered to become a citizen? Were there > expenses involved? Were there little benefits in becoming a citizen? Was > duel citizenship allowed in those days? If these folks travelled abroad > was it easy for them to get back into the US? Was there something like > the "Green Card" we have today? Could one get a passport with only a > Declaration of Intent? > And in my case I believe his American born wife would loose her U.S. > citizenship if he didn't petition for naturalization. I suppose he could > have filed for it in another county away from where he made his > Declaration of Intent. > > Thank you for showing an interest > > Melville > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ====

>> On the 1870 Wausau Census it shows my ancestor >> George Rhodes, born in England, as being eligible to vote. Would this >> mean that a person who is eligible to vote has to be a Naturalized >> Citizen? > >NO! In the mid-1800s, one only had to have signed a "Declaration of Intent >to Become a Citizen" in order to vote. I recently pored over voter rolls >in Dane County and found many who voted before their citizenship was >finalized. This was later changed to require citizenship for voting, but >I'm not sure when. >Hope this helps, >Kathy Lenerz Hi Kathy, You are absolutely right. I just got word from UWSP Archives and they told me the same thing. The good news they found my George Rhodes Declaration of Intent. I'm also curious why folks never bothered to become a citizen? Were there expenses involved? Were there little benefits in becoming a citizen? Was duel citizenship allowed in those days? If these folks travelled abroad was it easy for them to get back into the US? Was there something like the "Green Card" we have today? Could one get a passport with only a Declaration of Intent? And in my case I believe his American born wife would loose her U.S. citizenship if he didn't petition for naturalization. I suppose he could have filed for it in another county away from where he made his Declaration of Intent. Thank you for showing an interest Melville

jlawlor@uswest.net writes: > No wonder GENEALOGY drives one to drink! You should see my office, piled > high with manila folders - ole great grandpa had 18 kids. Joanne My question is: How long have you been doing genealogy? I think you're scaring me! Lita I have gone to find myself. If I get back before I return, please ask me to wait! See some of my accomplishments! <A HREF="http://pages.ivillage.com/misc/pux4/index.html">Pux's Page</A> http://pages.ivillage.com/misc/pux4/index.html <A HREF="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=89621">My PhotoPoint Album</A > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=89621

Joanne, Check the following site, you may send for copy of obit. Good Luck. http://library.uwsp.edu/obits/ joanne lawlor wrote: > Looking for Vincent Galicki died: May 16, 1925 - Stevens Point, Wi. > Thanks, Joanne > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ====

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DID YOU KNOW If each of the 125 married, you now have 250. If each pair had six children - the average in days of yore - you have 1500 and if each child married an had six children you now have - well; you have a whole lot !! Better buy your folders wholesale. GenWisconsin-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Subject: > > GenWisconsin-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 250 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [GenWisconsin] Re: Naturalization [Mel Fletcher <canuck@gol.com>] > #2 [GenWisconsin] Mary KANE/James P. [Thomas and/or Joyce Urban <tlurban] > #3 [GenWisconsin] Retirement???? [JRoot1969@aol.com] > #4 [GenWisconsin] Re: Naturalization [Kathy Lenerz <lenerzk@worldnet.att] > #5 [GenWisconsin] DID YOU KNOW [joanne lawlor <jlawlor@uswest.net>] > > Administrivia: > > PLEASE when you send a message to anyone.. Yes anyone Do one or more of the following: > 1.) 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The answers have been a real educational learning experience. > > Thank you ever so much > > Melville > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [GenWisconsin] Mary KANE/James P. FINLEY 1800s > Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:02:57 -0500 > From: Thomas and/or Joyce Urban <tlurban-chgo@worldnet.att.net> > To: GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com > > Looking for the family of James P. FINLEY and his wife Mary KANE. > > James was born about 1817 in Queens County, Ireland and died december > 15, 1893 in Rising Sun, Crawford County, WI. > > Mary was born in Ireland. Her daughter Mary (unknown)age 22, born in > Massachusetts, was a stepdaughter to James. She was listed as a teacher > on the 1880 Census for Town of Freeman, Crawford Co., Wisconsin. > > Mary and James had four children: > Katie, born about 1868 in Wisconsin > James, born about 1871, WI > Maria, 1872, WI > Rose, abt. 1873, WI > > The 1884 History of Crawford County book states that "James P. Finley > and Martin came in 1857. The latter moved to Iowa where he died. > Timothy Finley who came about that date was still a resident in the town > in 1884." The reference was to the town of Freeman, Crawford County. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Joyce > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [GenWisconsin] Retirement???? > Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:14:16 EDT > From: JRoot1969@aol.com > To: GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com > > Sounds like someone has been very busy!!! I am very active but am now tired > after reading about all that you have been up to. Hope you are having the > time of your life you go girl! Jackie in Oregon > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [GenWisconsin] Re: Naturalization > Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 20:03:55 -0400 > From: Kathy Lenerz <lenerzk@worldnet.att.net> > To: GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com > > > On the 1870 Wausau Census it shows my ancestor > > George Rhodes, born in England, as being eligible to vote. Would this > > mean that a person who is eligible to vote has to be a Naturalized > > Citizen? > > NO! In the mid-1800s, one only had to have signed a "Declaration of Intent > to Become a Citizen" in order to vote. I recently pored over voter rolls > in Dane County and found many who voted before their citizenship was > finalized. This was later changed to require citizenship for voting, but > I'm not sure when. > Hope this helps, > Kathy Lenerz > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [GenWisconsin] DID YOU KNOW > Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 21:36:56 -0700 > From: joanne lawlor <jlawlor@uswest.net> > To: GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com > > This bit of information will make all of us happy! If we research 6 > generations back, we are looking at approximately 125 ancestors. I > gotta go get some more manila folders! Joanne -- Regards, Al Saunders, UE "It is indeed a desirable thing to be well descended, but the glory belongs to our ancestors." - Plutarch http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/a/u/Alfred-Elson-Saunders/index.html

Looking for Vincent Galicki died: May 16, 1925 - Stevens Point, Wi. Thanks, Joanne

> On the 1870 Wausau Census it shows my ancestor > George Rhodes, born in England, as being eligible to vote. Would this > mean that a person who is eligible to vote has to be a Naturalized > Citizen? NO! In the mid-1800s, one only had to have signed a "Declaration of Intent to Become a Citizen" in order to vote. I recently pored over voter rolls in Dane County and found many who voted before their citizenship was finalized. This was later changed to require citizenship for voting, but I'm not sure when. Hope this helps, Kathy Lenerz

Looking for the family of James P. FINLEY and his wife Mary KANE. James was born about 1817 in Queens County, Ireland and died december 15, 1893 in Rising Sun, Crawford County, WI. Mary was born in Ireland. Her daughter Mary (unknown)age 22, born in Massachusetts, was a stepdaughter to James. She was listed as a teacher on the 1880 Census for Town of Freeman, Crawford Co., Wisconsin. Mary and James had four children: Katie, born about 1868 in Wisconsin James, born about 1871, WI Maria, 1872, WI Rose, abt. 1873, WI The 1884 History of Crawford County book states that "James P. Finley and Martin came in 1857. The latter moved to Iowa where he died. Timothy Finley who came about that date was still a resident in the town in 1884." The reference was to the town of Freeman, Crawford County. Any help would be appreciated. Joyce

Sounds like someone has been very busy!!! I am very active but am now tired after reading about all that you have been up to. Hope you are having the time of your life you go girl! Jackie in Oregon

To all those who responded to my query The responses have been overwhelming and I certainly appreciate your replys. The answers have been a real educational learning experience. Thank you ever so much Melville

Hi Marcia, What a life! I'm sure you'll find when you get back on your feet so to speak that you'll never know how you had time for life and the marines. Have a great retirement. You make me tired just reading about what you've been up to. Your retirement pictures were really great. Thanks for posting them. A speedy recovery to you too. Jo > > Hi! Just a short note to all of those people who normally hear from me > > routinely. I recented retired from the USMC, and am currently taking a > three > > month vacation from life, in the pursuit of happiness (grin)... actually > trying > > to catch up on all the stuff I postphoned... Here is what the last few > weeks > > have been like