you probably need a vol. #

The Bayfield County Press of 5 September, 1913, from John Griener, has just been uploaded to the Bayfield Co. Website. Be sure to read about the Big Dinner in honor of the Old Soldiers and see if your old soldier might be there. >From Zoe Lappin we have: Bayfield County Journal Memories Column, featuring the Iron River Memories of 15 January 1942; and Bayfield County Journal Yesteryear Column, featuring the Washburn Times of 1 April 1915. Check out the help wanted from Dupont. $2.15 per day. Also loaded to the Upper Great Lakes Bios: John J. Hayden and the Honorable W.H. Irish. http://www.rootsweb.com/~wibayfie/contents.html Jan, Donna, John and Zoe Bayfield County Visit Jansdigs at http://www.jansdigs.com Have you checked out Independant Pathways in History at http://www.ipih.org

Hi Norma Worked for me , too. Thanks. Bob

Hi Norma! Yes, I did see the ALMOST, and I agree--it is a great tool to have. Just sorry I can't seem to find my Alpheus in there. I am having a problem with this couple anyway---have conflicting info----one source says they were married in Wisconsin, and the other says in Iowa. So who knows? It may be that this is NOT my Sarah Jane anyway. Thanks for your help---it is always nice to have someone pass along good hints for help!!! Janice > > Dear Janice: I ran your Sarah Jane Wallace and then put in the new search as > I had suggested earlier -- COUNTY DATE PAGE# -- and I got a result of three > people. Two were women -- Nancy Wallace and Sarah Jane Wallace -- and one > was a man, Alvin Jones. If these were my family, I would suppose that Nancy > and Sarah Jane might have been sisters and ONE of them married Alvin Jones on > the same day in the same place. Double weddings were quite common in > families in that time period. I have several in my WRIGHT family. It > appears to me that one of the men didn't get put into the index for some > reason. Probably the one you are looking for. I have a case like that -- > when I enter Joseph Briggs STOCKING I find him, but no bride for him. > > If you will check my message to Melville in Tokyo, Japan, you will notice > that I said "you will ALMOST always get a listing showing BOTH the husband > and the wife." That "ALMOST" is a very important word in my sentence. This > WI Marriage database has some problems in it. I don't know if it is > Ancestry's fault, or if it is the fault of Wisconsin State, or if the > counties didn't always turn in the correct data. But, regardless, having it > -- even with the zits -- is better than NOT having it at all. I'm grateful > for it and will work around the foibles. > > Good luck to you in your searching, > Norma Jean Herzman > Oregon City, OR > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > > >

Here's another hint for finding a spouse or a husband. When I could only find one person and not their mate, I entered only the county and the page number. It produced about 70 choices but as I scrolled down each page looking for the date Sept 15, 1863 and finally found his spouse with the date Sept 15, 1868. The "3" was read as an "8" or the other way around. Now all I have to do now is figure out which one is correct Good Luck Melville in Tokyo >Thanks for the hint on using other search parameters. I just have a >note on what I found. One marriage of a great aunt, the date says 1803, >instead of 1903 all other documentation is correct. secondly you do not >always find the spouse. I did find my great grandfather listed and the >marriage date is 2 days off from what is listed in the family bible. So >did they register and then marry two days later, the second part is I >did not find his wife no matter what I tried. >I did get a hit on my gggrandmother and it appears she may have married >in Milw as opposed to Fon du Lac as family lore has said, once again I >found nothing resembling a spouse. > My find was Mary J Freeman marr 03 Feb 1856 county Mil , vol 02, page >0127 vol A seq 18208, her husband should be Charles Rapley (Rapilje) >Thanks again >Researching Rapley/Rapilje, Freeman, Richardson, Seerley/Sörley, Sauntry >in Wisconsin >Jeannette Rapley Sauntry

Has anyone noticed the dates. I have found many of my ancestors marriage dates, but they have the year as 1801. The index is 1820-1907. 1801 shows up on several different surnames. Shouldn't it be 1901? Has anyone noticed this or is it just me? Mary Jo Douglass Researching: JANUSZ> JAREMBA> PANEK> WAIER> ZILKE> SIKORA> SCHMIDT> MAKURAT> MACIEJEWSK> PISHULSKI> PLACZEK< CRZANETSKA> KASZUBOWSKA< LEMANN< MACHUTA< KONETZ< MARKOWSKA< HUGHES> WIESE in Milwaukee, WI JAREMBA> WAIER< WITTLIFF< in Manistee, MI DOUGLASS, BRUNER, DAVISON, STANSBURY in NY, IA. KS & ILL.

I too noticed that many 1800's dates given for marriages are in fact 1900's. i.e. listed as 1804 should be 1904.

If you have used this source to find the marriage date and one spouse it would seem the most prudent thing to do next would be to write to the county or state and request a copy of the marriage record. I also found a web site where you can order Wisconsin birth, marriage and death records on line. It is http://www.shsw.wisc.edu/genealogy/order/index.html. The cost is $15.00 per search. I sent for 2 birth records the other day, but have not received them yet. Dan Susan Langus wrote: > By dropping the page # I came up with 2 females and 2 possible males > You never know, but it would be my guess these two women were related. > Sue > > Name: Nancy Wallace > Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 > County: Dane > Volume: 01 > Page: 0494 > County: Dan > Volume: A > Sequence: 07533 > > Name: Sarah Jane Wallace > Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 > County: Dane > Volume: 01 > Page: 0494 > County: Dan > Volume: A > Sequence: 06336 > > Name: James J Heldridge > Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 > County: Dane > Volume: 01 > Page: 0??94 > County: Dan > Volume: A > Sequence: 06298 > > Name: Alvin Jones > Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 > County: Dane > Volume: A > Page: 0494 > County: Dan > Volume: A > Sequence: 07495 > > Janice Danielson wrote: > > > Well, I sure don't know what to think!! I did what Norma said to do > about getting both husband and > > wife---in one case it worked, > > and in the other it didn't!!! Quite a puzzle I would say!! What do > > you think is wrong??? Can someone else try it and see if it > > will work for you?? > > Her name is Sarah Jane Wallace > > date 20 Oct 1861 > > Dane County > > page 0494 > > I cannot seem to get her husband. The other woman that I had > her info for, I came up with the husband's name when I did what > Norma said to do. So thanks for that verification!! Now can anyone get > Sarah's husband??? > > Thanks for your help!! Janice Danielson > Tokyo, Japan > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ====

I am looking for any information on the following GOFF's from my family tree. Children of Benedict GOFF and Mary HARRIS (all born in Marathon County, Wisconsin) Daniel GOFF b. 1858 married Lillie MCEWEN on Dec 7, 1879 Marathon County Laura GOFF b. 1867 married Joauin SANJOSE on June 19, 1883 Marathon County Olive GOFF b. 1869 married Fredrick GARLAND on Nov 24, 1887 Marathon County Children of Charles GOFF and Ella HUNTOON Ernest GOFF b. 1881 married Meta (Unknown). Children: Lila b. 1910 and Ruth b. 1913. Living in Fond du Lac on 1920 census Carrie GOFF b. 1882 Ella GOFF b. 1884 Herbert GOFF b. 1893 Any information on any of these family members would be appreciated. Most of the other siblings stayed in the Marathon, Onieda, Vilas, Ashland, Lincoln, and Langlade county areas. Thank you in advance Cathy Goff Beyard sisgo1@aol.com

Thanks for the hint on using other search parameters. I just have a note on what I found. One marriage of a great aunt, the date says 1803, instead of 1903 all other documentation is correct. secondly you do not always find the spouse. I did find my great grandfather listed and the marriage date is 2 days off from what is listed in the family bible. So did they register and then marry two days later, the second part is I did not find his wife no matter what I tried. I did get a hit on my gggrandmother and it appears she may have married in Milw as opposed to Fon du Lac as family lore has said, once again I found nothing resembling a spouse. My find was Mary J Freeman marr 03 Feb 1856 county Mil , vol 02, page 0127 vol A seq 18208, her husband should be Charles Rapley (Rapilje) Thanks again Researching Rapley/Rapilje, Freeman, Richardson, Seerley/Sörley, Sauntry in Wisconsin Jeannette Rapley Sauntry

Norma... you are a genius! It really works. How many more tricks do you have it that hat of yours? Thank you ever so much. Melville in Tokyo >Melville: After you have found the one entry for husband or wife, THEN do a >search using information from that entry. For instance, if you find Allen >Whitney, married 13 Dec 1887, in Barron Co., Vol. 1, Page 0192; enter the >search as follows: > >BARR 13 Dec 1887 0192 and you will almost always get a result showing >BOTH the entries for the husband AND the wife. > >Try it and let me know if it works for you -- it sure worked for me. > >Norma Jean Herzman >Oregon City, OR

Hi Terry, Yes, I'm finding the same thing. It seems everything list from 1801 - 1807 are actually 1901 - 1907. Perhaps the transcriber had written so many 1800,s that when he/she were doing 19??,s wrote 18??. Melville in Tokyo >Hi! I belong to Ancestry.com and have been searching the WI Marriage Index >and finding some interesting things you need to keep in mind. After >checking a few couples that I had the names, but no marriage dates, I >would find one of the couple listed but when I checked the other name to >see if the info matched, there was no entry for the second spouse. So I >checked some couples that I had all the info on already and sure enough >the info was only listed under one of the spouse's names. It could be >either the male or the female. I also found an error - it gives my >grandmother's dom as 11 April 1807 when it was 1907, there again is no >listing under my grandfather's name. Thought I'd pass it on......Terry

Hi! I belong to Ancestry.com and have been searching the WI Marriage Index and finding some interesting things you need to keep in mind. After checking a few couples that I had the names, but no marriage dates, I would find one of the couple listed but when I checked the other name to see if the info matched, there was no entry for the second spouse. So I checked some couples that I had all the info on already and sure enough the info was only listed under one of the spouse's names. It could be either the male or the female. I also found an error - it gives my grandmother's dom as 11 April 1807 when it was 1907, there again is no listing under my grandfather's name. Thought I'd pass it on......Terry

Thanks, but that's not who she married---darn it all!! I guess it may be the wrong Sarah Jane Wallace, except it IS the right date. Sure wish I knew where her real hubby is!! My Sarah Jane was married to Alpheus Adams. Oh wellllllll!!! Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: <DebsDen417@cs.com> To: <GenWisconsin-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [GenWisconsin] Re: Pre 1907 Marriage Index FREE! > Janice > I show husband as Alvin Jones. When you enter info do it this way: 20 Oct > 1861 0494 > You don't need to put in the last name > Debbie > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > > >

You did not say who she married, This is what I got to come up. Name: Salome Rickenbaugh Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 County: Dane Volume: 01 Page: 0506 County: Dan Volume: A Sequence: 15884 Click to view full context Name: John F Vincent Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 County: Dane Volume: 01 Page: 0533 County: Dan Volume: A Sequence: 15374 Click to view full context Name: Nancy Wallace Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 County: Dane Volume: 01 Page: 0494 County: Dan Volume: A Sequence: 07533 Click to view full context Name: Sarah Jane Wallace Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 County: Dane Volume: 01 Page: 0494 County: Dan Volume: A Sequence: 06336 Click to view full context Name: Henry Windler Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 County: Dane Volume: 01 Page: 0506 County: Dan Volume: A Sequence: 15846 Click to view full context Name: James J Heldridge Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 County: Dane Volume: 01 Page: 0??94 County: Dan Volume: A Sequence: 06298 Click to view full context Name: Alvin Jones Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 County: Dane Volume: 01 Page: 0494 County: Dan Volume: A Sequence: 07495 Click to view full context Name: Mary Jane Jones Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 County: Dane Volume: 01 Page: 0533 County: Dan Volume: A Sequence: 15412 Click to view full context Janice Danielson wrote: > Well, I sure don't know what to think!! I did what Norma said to do about getting both husband and > wife---in one case it worked, > and in the other it didn't!!! Quite a puzzle I would say!! What do > you think is wrong??? Can someone else try it and see if it > will work for you?? > Her name is Sarah Jane Wallace > date 20 Oct 1861 > Dane County > page 0494 > > I cannot seem to get her husband. The other woman that I had > her info for, I came up with the husband's name when I did what > Norma said to do. So thanks for that verification!! Now can anyone get Sarah's husband??? > > Thanks for your help!! Janice Danielson > > > Tokyo, Japan > > > > > > > Melville: After you have found the one entry for husband or wife, THEN do a > > search using information from that entry. For instance, if you find Allen > > Whitney, married 13 Dec 1887, in Barron Co., Vol. 1, Page 0192; enter the > > search as follows: > > > > BARR 13 Dec 1887 0192 and you will almost always get a result showing > > BOTH the entries for the husband AND the wife. > > > > Try it and let me know if it works for you -- it sure worked for me. > > > > Norma Jean Herzman > > Oregon City, OR > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ====

Well, I sure don't know what to think!! I did what Norma said to do about getting both husband and wife---in one case it worked, and in the other it didn't!!! Quite a puzzle I would say!! What do you think is wrong??? Can someone else try it and see if it will work for you?? Her name is Sarah Jane Wallace date 20 Oct 1861 Dane County page 0494 I cannot seem to get her husband. The other woman that I had her info for, I came up with the husband's name when I did what Norma said to do. So thanks for that verification!! Now can anyone get Sarah's husband??? Thanks for your help!! Janice Danielson > > Tokyo, Japan > > > > Melville: After you have found the one entry for husband or wife, THEN do a > search using information from that entry. For instance, if you find Allen > Whitney, married 13 Dec 1887, in Barron Co., Vol. 1, Page 0192; enter the > search as follows: > > BARR 13 Dec 1887 0192 and you will almost always get a result showing > BOTH the entries for the husband AND the wife. > > Try it and let me know if it works for you -- it sure worked for me. > > Norma Jean Herzman > Oregon City, OR > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > > >

In a message dated 09/01/2000 9:18:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dkniess@email.msn.com writes: > After checking a few couples that I had the names, but no marriage dates, I > would find one of the couple listed but when I checked the other name to see > if the info matched, there was no entry for the second spouse. So I checked > some couples that I had all the info on already and sure enough the info was > only listed under one of the spouse's names. It could be either the male or > the female. I also found an error - it gives my grandmother's dom as 11 April > 1807 when it was 1907, there again is no listing under my grandfather's name. > Thought I'd pass it on......Terry Hi Terry: I found some instances that seemed like that, too. But when I searched using the COUNTY DATE PAGE# data, it often turned out that the spouse WAS there, but the spelling would be slightly different, or the spelling would be incorrect altogether, i.e. Esletta instead of Estella (!!), or in one case the bride who had been listed in our family records for many years as Emma June Helgers turned out to be Emma Jane ODGERS and there isn't a "Helgers" in the whole database -- not male or female! So, someone in my family made a "whoooopps" a long time ago. We are all human and subject to those kinds of frailties, right? I find this a most interesting database to work with, don't you? Best wishes and happy hunting and finding, Norma Jean Herzman

In a message dated 09/01/2000 8:52:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, granny@nwiowa.com writes: > Well, I sure don't know what to think!! I did what Norma said to do about getting both husband and wife---in one case it worked, and in the other it didn't!!! Quite a puzzle I would say!! What do you think is wrong??? Can someone else try it and see if it will work for you?? > Her name is Sarah Jane Wallace > date 20 Oct 1861 > Dane County > page 0494 > I cannot seem to get her husband. The other woman that I had her info for, I came up with the husband's name when I did what Norma said to do. So thanks for that verification!! Now can anyone get Sarah's husband??? Dear Janice: I ran your Sarah Jane Wallace and then put in the new search as I had suggested earlier -- COUNTY DATE PAGE# -- and I got a result of three people. Two were women -- Nancy Wallace and Sarah Jane Wallace -- and one was a man, Alvin Jones. If these were my family, I would suppose that Nancy and Sarah Jane might have been sisters and ONE of them married Alvin Jones on the same day in the same place. Double weddings were quite common in families in that time period. I have several in my WRIGHT family. It appears to me that one of the men didn't get put into the index for some reason. Probably the one you are looking for. I have a case like that -- when I enter Joseph Briggs STOCKING I find him, but no bride for him. If you will check my message to Melville in Tokyo, Japan, you will notice that I said "you will ALMOST always get a listing showing BOTH the husband and the wife." That "ALMOST" is a very important word in my sentence. This WI Marriage database has some problems in it. I don't know if it is Ancestry's fault, or if it is the fault of Wisconsin State, or if the counties didn't always turn in the correct data. But, regardless, having it -- even with the zits -- is better than NOT having it at all. I'm grateful for it and will work around the foibles. Good luck to you in your searching, Norma Jean Herzman Oregon City, OR

Hello, Sue your suggestion was great!! Thank You

By dropping the page # I came up with 2 females and 2 possible males You never know, but it would be my guess these two women were related. Sue Name: Nancy Wallace Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 County: Dane Volume: 01 Page: 0494 County: Dan Volume: A Sequence: 07533 Name: Sarah Jane Wallace Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 County: Dane Volume: 01 Page: 0494 County: Dan Volume: A Sequence: 06336 Name: James J Heldridge Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 County: Dane Volume: 01 Page: 0??94 County: Dan Volume: A Sequence: 06298 Name: Alvin Jones Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1861 County: Dane Volume: A Page: 0494 County: Dan Volume: A Sequence: 07495 Janice Danielson wrote: > Well, I sure don't know what to think!! I did what Norma said to do about getting both husband and > wife---in one case it worked, > and in the other it didn't!!! Quite a puzzle I would say!! What do > you think is wrong??? Can someone else try it and see if it > will work for you?? > Her name is Sarah Jane Wallace > date 20 Oct 1861 > Dane County > page 0494 I cannot seem to get her husband. The other woman that I had her info for, I came up with the husband's name when I did what Norma said to do. So thanks for that verification!! Now can anyone get Sarah's husband??? Thanks for your help!! Janice Danielson Tokyo, Japan _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.