I taking a genealogy class. I have learned that in 1838 and 1840 Iowa was counted in the WI Territorial Census. Would someone please send me a url (or two) of where I can find any information pertaining to that? Thank You Very Much, Sarah [email protected]

THANK YOU AR ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [GenWisc] tombstone art > > Thanks for sharing this! > > Connie > > > > > [email protected] on 03/07/2003 11:58:31 AM > > Please respond to [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > cc: > > Subject: [GenWisc] tombstone art > > > thought someone might be interested in this > > Understanding the Art and Symbols on Tombstones > > There is nothing like a visit to an cemetery to make you feel close to an > ancestor. You are walking the very ground where they were buried and where > they > may have walked once long ago and visited loved ones. Tombstone can be > plain > or > they can be decorated with art and symbols and wording that have meaning > you > might not fully appreciate. Some examples of words or letters you might > find > engraved include: > > "B.P.O.E." means Benevolent Protective Order of Elks > "F.L.T." with each letter in a link of a chain means Friendship, Love and > Truth > (see "I.O.O.F.") > "F.O.E." Means Fraternal Order of Eagles > "G.A.R." means Grand Army of the Republic. It was an organization of Civil > War > Union Army veterans. > "I.O.O.F." means International Order of Odd Fellows (see "F.L.T."). > "V.D.M." means "verbi Dei minister" (Minister of the Word of God). > "W.O.W." means "Woodmen of the World". Upright tree stump markers are > typical > > of the fraternity. > > "Relect" carved on a woman's headstone means she died a widow. "Consort" > means > she outlived her husband. > > Some examples of engraved symbols include: > > Anchors and Ships: Hope or Seafaring profession > Arches: Victory in Death > Arrows: Mortality > Broken column: Loss of head of family > Broken ring: Family circle severed > Bugles: Military (see Trumpeters) > Butterfly: Short-lived; early death > Candle being snuffed: Time, mortality > Cherub: Angelic > Compass and Square: Masonic emblems > Corn: Ripe old age > Cross: Symbol of Christian hope > Crossed Swords: Officer in the military > Darts: Mortality > Doves: The soul, purity, innocence, gentleness > Father Time: Mortality, The Grim Reaper > Flowers: Brevity of early existence, sorrow > Flowers: Condolence, grief, sorrow > Flying Birds: Flight of the soul > Fruits : Eternal plenty > Garlands : Victory in death > Hand of God Chopping: Sudden death > Hands of God Chopping: Sudden Death > Handshakes: Farewell to earthly existence > Harp: Praise to the Maker > Hearts: Blissfulness or love of Christ > Hourglass with wings: Time flying; short life > Hourglass: Swiftness of time > Ivy: Friendship and immortality > Lamb: Innocence > Laurel: Fame or victory > Lily or lily of valley: Emblem of innocence and purity > Morning glory: Beginning of life > Oak leaves and acorn: Maturity, ripe old age > Open book or Bible: Deceased teacher, minister, etc. > Palm Branch: Signifies victory and rejoicing > Picks and shovels: Mortality > Poppy: Sleep > Portals: Passageway to eternal journey > Rose in full bloom: Prime of life > Rosebud: Morning of life or renewal of life > Roses: Brevity of mortal life > Sheaf of wheat: Ripe for harvest, divine harvest time > Shells: Pilgrimage of life > Stars and stripes around eagle: Eternal vigilance, liberty > Suns: The Resurrection > Thistles: Remembrance > Tombs: Mortality > Torch Inverted: Life extinct > Tree stump with ivy: Head of family; immortality > Trees: Life > Trumpeters: Heralds of the resurrection > Urn with flame: Undying friendship > Urn with wreath or crepe: mourning > Willows: Emblem of sorrow > Winged effigies: Flight of the soul > > A cenotaph is not a grave marker at all. It is a monument erected in memory > of > someone who died elsewhere, perhaps at sea. For more information about > cemeteries get the video "Cryptic Clues in the Bone Yard" by professional > genealogist Sharon DeBartolo Carmack at > <A HREF="http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Redirect/Store-Videos.asp > ">http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Redirect/Store-Videos.asp</A>. > > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > email: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > email: [email protected] >

thought someone might be interested in this Understanding the Art and Symbols on Tombstones There is nothing like a visit to an cemetery to make you feel close to an ancestor. You are walking the very ground where they were buried and where they may have walked once long ago and visited loved ones. Tombstone can be plain or they can be decorated with art and symbols and wording that have meaning you might not fully appreciate. Some examples of words or letters you might find engraved include: "B.P.O.E." means Benevolent Protective Order of Elks "F.L.T." with each letter in a link of a chain means Friendship, Love and Truth (see "I.O.O.F.") "F.O.E." Means Fraternal Order of Eagles "G.A.R." means Grand Army of the Republic. It was an organization of Civil War Union Army veterans. "I.O.O.F." means International Order of Odd Fellows (see "F.L.T."). "V.D.M." means "verbi Dei minister" (Minister of the Word of God). "W.O.W." means "Woodmen of the World". Upright tree stump markers are typical of the fraternity. "Relect" carved on a woman's headstone means she died a widow. "Consort" means she outlived her husband. Some examples of engraved symbols include: Anchors and Ships: Hope or Seafaring profession Arches: Victory in Death Arrows: Mortality Broken column: Loss of head of family Broken ring: Family circle severed Bugles: Military (see Trumpeters) Butterfly: Short-lived; early death Candle being snuffed: Time, mortality Cherub: Angelic Compass and Square: Masonic emblems Corn: Ripe old age Cross: Symbol of Christian hope Crossed Swords: Officer in the military Darts: Mortality Doves: The soul, purity, innocence, gentleness Father Time: Mortality, The Grim Reaper Flowers: Brevity of early existence, sorrow Flowers: Condolence, grief, sorrow Flying Birds: Flight of the soul Fruits : Eternal plenty Garlands : Victory in death Hand of God Chopping: Sudden death Hands of God Chopping: Sudden Death Handshakes: Farewell to earthly existence Harp: Praise to the Maker Hearts: Blissfulness or love of Christ Hourglass with wings: Time flying; short life Hourglass: Swiftness of time Ivy: Friendship and immortality Lamb: Innocence Laurel: Fame or victory Lily or lily of valley: Emblem of innocence and purity Morning glory: Beginning of life Oak leaves and acorn: Maturity, ripe old age Open book or Bible: Deceased teacher, minister, etc. Palm Branch: Signifies victory and rejoicing Picks and shovels: Mortality Poppy: Sleep Portals: Passageway to eternal journey Rose in full bloom: Prime of life Rosebud: Morning of life or renewal of life Roses: Brevity of mortal life Sheaf of wheat: Ripe for harvest, divine harvest time Shells: Pilgrimage of life Stars and stripes around eagle: Eternal vigilance, liberty Suns: The Resurrection Thistles: Remembrance Tombs: Mortality Torch Inverted: Life extinct Tree stump with ivy: Head of family; immortality Trees: Life Trumpeters: Heralds of the resurrection Urn with flame: Undying friendship Urn with wreath or crepe: mourning Willows: Emblem of sorrow Winged effigies: Flight of the soul A cenotaph is not a grave marker at all. It is a monument erected in memory of someone who died elsewhere, perhaps at sea. For more information about cemeteries get the video "Cryptic Clues in the Bone Yard" by professional genealogist Sharon DeBartolo Carmack at <A HREF="http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Redirect/Store-Videos.asp">http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Redirect/Store-Videos.asp</A>.  

Thanks for sharing this! Connie [email protected] on 03/07/2003 11:58:31 AM Please respond to [email protected] To: [email protected] cc: Subject: [GenWisc] tombstone art thought someone might be interested in this Understanding the Art and Symbols on Tombstones There is nothing like a visit to an cemetery to make you feel close to an ancestor. You are walking the very ground where they were buried and where they may have walked once long ago and visited loved ones. Tombstone can be plain or they can be decorated with art and symbols and wording that have meaning you might not fully appreciate. Some examples of words or letters you might find engraved include: "B.P.O.E." means Benevolent Protective Order of Elks "F.L.T." with each letter in a link of a chain means Friendship, Love and Truth (see "I.O.O.F.") "F.O.E." Means Fraternal Order of Eagles "G.A.R." means Grand Army of the Republic. It was an organization of Civil War Union Army veterans. "I.O.O.F." means International Order of Odd Fellows (see "F.L.T."). "V.D.M." means "verbi Dei minister" (Minister of the Word of God). "W.O.W." means "Woodmen of the World". Upright tree stump markers are typical of the fraternity. "Relect" carved on a woman's headstone means she died a widow. "Consort" means she outlived her husband. Some examples of engraved symbols include: Anchors and Ships: Hope or Seafaring profession Arches: Victory in Death Arrows: Mortality Broken column: Loss of head of family Broken ring: Family circle severed Bugles: Military (see Trumpeters) Butterfly: Short-lived; early death Candle being snuffed: Time, mortality Cherub: Angelic Compass and Square: Masonic emblems Corn: Ripe old age Cross: Symbol of Christian hope Crossed Swords: Officer in the military Darts: Mortality Doves: The soul, purity, innocence, gentleness Father Time: Mortality, The Grim Reaper Flowers: Brevity of early existence, sorrow Flowers: Condolence, grief, sorrow Flying Birds: Flight of the soul Fruits : Eternal plenty Garlands : Victory in death Hand of God Chopping: Sudden death Hands of God Chopping: Sudden Death Handshakes: Farewell to earthly existence Harp: Praise to the Maker Hearts: Blissfulness or love of Christ Hourglass with wings: Time flying; short life Hourglass: Swiftness of time Ivy: Friendship and immortality Lamb: Innocence Laurel: Fame or victory Lily or lily of valley: Emblem of innocence and purity Morning glory: Beginning of life Oak leaves and acorn: Maturity, ripe old age Open book or Bible: Deceased teacher, minister, etc. Palm Branch: Signifies victory and rejoicing Picks and shovels: Mortality Poppy: Sleep Portals: Passageway to eternal journey Rose in full bloom: Prime of life Rosebud: Morning of life or renewal of life Roses: Brevity of mortal life Sheaf of wheat: Ripe for harvest, divine harvest time Shells: Pilgrimage of life Stars and stripes around eagle: Eternal vigilance, liberty Suns: The Resurrection Thistles: Remembrance Tombs: Mortality Torch Inverted: Life extinct Tree stump with ivy: Head of family; immortality Trees: Life Trumpeters: Heralds of the resurrection Urn with flame: Undying friendship Urn with wreath or crepe: mourning Willows: Emblem of sorrow Winged effigies: Flight of the soul A cenotaph is not a grave marker at all. It is a monument erected in memory of someone who died elsewhere, perhaps at sea. For more information about cemeteries get the video "Cryptic Clues in the Bone Yard" by professional genealogist Sharon DeBartolo Carmack at <A HREF="http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Redirect/Store-Videos.asp ">http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Redirect/Store-Videos.asp</A>. ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore email: [email protected]

>PLEASE contact the origional sender or the Miller list for more >information. I know nothing about this Bible besides what the >original writer sent to the Miller list. Please contact the >originaltor or the Miller list if you want to know more, not me. If you think you might be related to the Miller's mentioned, or if you know of them, kindly take the time to follow this up. Hoping this helps someone, Ashley ***************************************** > >Resent-From: [email protected] X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Thu Mar 6 22:57:06 2003 >I hope someone can assist me in finding a direct descendent of the Henry & >Henrietta Miller family. I'm not related to this family, but I have a Bible >that I want to insure gets back into this families possession. > >My wife and I do a lot of antique shopping in Texas and Louisiana. I'm also >a genealogist that likes to help others discover their family roots. >Therefore, I occasionally purchase family Bibles that contain information >that I believe the original owners would want their descendents to have. I >make every effort to get the Bibles returned to a direct descendent of the >original owners. > >While antique hunting in New Braunfels, Texas, last weekend, I found a >family Bible that belonged to Henry Miller and his wife Henrietta Peters. >The Bible contains: >* Birth records of Henry Miller & Henrietta Peter >* birth records of their children, >* marriage record for Henry and Henrietta, >* death record for Henrietta, >* newspaper clipping of Henrietta's obituary with extensive list of those >attending, >* newspaper clipping of obituary of Mrs. Chester Miller. ***************** >Henry Miller was born March 11, 1861 in Wayne, Wash. Co. WI. to Peter Miller >and Johanna Renziehausen Miller. ***************** >Henrietta Peter was born Feb. 12, 1862 in Rice County Minn. to Phillip & >Carolina Peter. > >Children of Henry & Henrietta: >Chester P. b. 2-25-1888 >Walter W. 9-30-1889 >Mabel C. 1-2-1891 >Millow H. 4-12-1893 >Clarence F. 11-29-1894 >Warner E. 7-5-1896 >Luella E 9-8-1898 >Helen E. 10-22-1900 > >All but Walter were born in Randolph, Minn. > >Please help me locate a "Miller" descendent of this family. They and I will >be most appreciative. --

I am looking for information on Hermann Block and his wife Henrietta Radmer. Hermann was born March 1850 at Prussia, Germany Henrietta was born 1856 at Stettin Prussia Germany The parents of Henrietta are Karl Friedrich Wilhelm Radmer and Augusta? The parents of Hermann Block are John Block and Fredricka Galt. The grandparents of Hermann are Christopher Block and Louise? The parents of Karl Radmer are Christian Radmer, Rodmer or even Radmann, not sure on spelling of last name. and his wife Ailsee? I do not know what county in Wisconsin these people lived at. Hermann and Henrietta's daughter Ida Block was born there. Any help appreciated!!! My name is Cathy and my email is [email protected]

I Found this earlier thought it may be of interest to others, Good Luck, Jackie <A HREF="http://www.scottishdocuments.com/content/shop/displayadresults.asp">Click here: Scottish Documents</A>

If anyone lives near Woodland, Wi town of Herman,. could you please go to St Mary's cemetery(east side of Hy. WS 1/2 mile north of Woodland, Wi.) and lookup the grave of a Unertl that is suppose to be buried there. I would like the first name and anyother information that is on the grave. Thanks in advance, Dorothy

Gen [email protected] and in the subject put unsubscribe from (and then you previous mailing address) in the message. That should do the trick. Muriel -----Original Message----- Date: Mon 03/03/03 3:13 PM From: Pat Ricci <[email protected]> To: [email protected] CC: Subject: [GenWisc] unsubscribe under old address My ISP changed my address so I cannot post from this my new address. I subscribed under the new address but cannot figure how to unsubscribe from the old address since I don't really have it anymore. -- Pat Ricci 122 Demont Ave E. #356 Little Canada Mn 55117 651/766/8482 Researching Italians from Cumberland Wisconsin POINT #203 ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore email: [email protected] Muriel MORGAN Pfeifer -- This message was sent using airstreamcomm.net WebMail.

Check out this website: http://cumberlandwi.tripod.com Many Ricci families settled in Cumberland Wisconsin. By marriage all Zappas and Ranallos and Riccis who came to Cumberland from Ateleta are related. Also several other Italian families settled in Cumberland. -- Pat Ricci 122 Demont Ave E. #356 Little Canada Mn 55117 651/766/8482 Researching Italians from Cumberland Wisconsin POINT #203

My ISP changed my address so I cannot post from this my new address. I subscribed under the new address but cannot figure how to unsubscribe from the old address since I don't really have it anymore. -- Pat Ricci 122 Demont Ave E. #356 Little Canada Mn 55117 651/766/8482 Researching Italians from Cumberland Wisconsin POINT #203

Try this website regarding naturalization at the Wisconsin Historical Society. It gives you an overview, the process, records, society holdings and FAQ. http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/genealogy/natlzn/index.html

Dear Listers, This is my first post to the list. I live in the UK. I am also a beginner when it comes to USA research. There is a family member who became a naturalised US citizen in 1926 at the Circuit Court Dane County, Wisconsin. I have the exact date and certificate number. How do I go about getting a copy of the document? Many thanks for your help. Pauline

Hi Everyone: > > The old genealogy scam is back. www.genseekers.com > > Behind the password protection are links to the free > genealogy on-line. There is no content of their own. > > In order to get the "5-day free trial" you have to > surrender a credit card or bank account number. You > have to cancel within 5 days or you get dinged. Guess > what? The cancellation e-mail bounces. Does this > surprise you? > > One person who recently fell for the come-on had > his/her account dinged not once, but twice. > > It is time to remind folks on your state and county > mailing lists about these scoundrels. It has been a > couple of years since we have mentioned this. > > Permission is granted to pass this on.

Thanks for the warning. I got this on my e-mail, but I have a subscription to Ancestry.com and I do not care to subscribe to any others, so I just deleted it. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: [GenWisc] Genealogy Scam > Hi Everyone: > > > > The old genealogy scam is back. www.genseekers.com > > > > Behind the password protection are links to the free > > genealogy on-line. There is no content of their own. > > > > In order to get the "5-day free trial" you have to > > surrender a credit card or bank account number. You > > have to cancel within 5 days or you get dinged. Guess > > what? The cancellation e-mail bounces. Does this > > surprise you? > > > > One person who recently fell for the come-on had > > his/her account dinged not once, but twice. > > > > It is time to remind folks on your state and county > > mailing lists about these scoundrels. It has been a > > couple of years since we have mentioned this. > > > > Permission is granted to pass this on. > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > email: [email protected]

Any information on: David Fuller, b:  March 1784, Vermont; m:  Sallie or Sarah (maiden name unknown), b:  1 May 1792 Son of David and Sallie: Albert Fuller, b:  1829, place unknown; d:  23 March 1860, Aztalan, Jefferson Co., Wi.(do not know where buried); m:  Kezia (Hezekiah) Udey, b:  10 June 1837, Paris, England; d:  13 Sept. 1913, Rutland, Union Twp., Dane Co., Wi.; Kezia married 2nd:  Horace Greeley Phillips, b:  5 March 1837 or 39, Henderson, N.Y.; d:  2 Jan. 1906, Rutland, Union Twp., Dane Co., Wi., son of Orin and Polly (maiden name unknown) Phillips and Horace and Kezia had five more children; Albert Fuller was one of 11 children; 4 died in infancy, 2 sons and one daug. survived; Kezia was the daug. of Joseph m. and Maryett (maiden name unknown) Udey Children of Albert and Kezia: 1.  William Wallace Fuller, b;  8 Oct. 1855, Milford, Jeff. Co., Wi.; d:  14 Oct. 1931, Merrimac, Sauk Co., Wi., Oak Hill Cem.; m:  24 Feb. 1877, Aztalan, Jeff. Co., Wi. to Gertrude Carr, b:  1852, N.Y. or Vermont?;  d:  1936, Merrimac, Sauk Co., Wi., Oak Hill Cem.; Gertrude was the daug. of James C. and Mary (Crocker) Carr;  Children of William Wallace and Gertrude:  Hattie M argaretta Fuller, m:  Emmett Anthony; Carrie May Fuller, m:  Mr. Green; Edna K. Fuller, m:  Mr. Powers (Charley O.?) 2.  Mary Etta Fuller, b:  18 July 1857, Milford, Jeff. Co., Wi.; d:  3 Nov. 1946, Janesville, Rock Co., Wi., Oak Hill Cem.; m:  1 July 1885, Watertown, Jeff. Co., Wi. to Henry Alexander Black, b:  5 July 1855, Watertown, Jeff. Co., Wi.; d:  11 March 1943, Janesville, Rock Co., Wi., Oak Hill Cem.; Henry was the son of William and Eliza (Barber) Black; Children of Mary Etta and Henry:  Roy Alexander Black; Emma Black, m:  George H. Whiting; Clarence Black, m:  Jessica Nerissa Calhoun; George Black; David Mourice Black; Henry Black  3.  Wesley E. Fuller, b:  11 Nov.1858, Milford, Jeff. Co., Wi.; d;  1931, Auraville, Waushara Co., Wi., Cem. unknown; m:  1882, Berlin, Waushara Co., Wi. to Caroline G. (maiden name unknown; birth, death, cem. unknown) (They had four unknown children) 4.  Alberto (Bert) Fuller, b:  19 Oct. 1861, Milford, Jeff. Co., Wi.; d:  unknown; m:  2 March 1889, Winsor, Dane Co., Wi. to Fannie Sherman, birth and death dates unknown;  (Alberto and Fannie had two daugs.) e-mail:  [email protected]

Hi No relation to this family, but thought I would try to pass on kindness that many have shared with me. Hoping this is a connect. Found a Griffith Roberts in 1870 Census Wisconsin/ Columbia County/ Columbus Page 56A Enumerated June 11, 1870 Lines 25 & 26 286/290 Griffith D Roberts, Head, 26, Blacksmith, Wales Sarah Roberts, Wife, 24, Keeps house, NY Found a Griffith Roberts in 1860 Census Wisconsin/ Columbia County/ Courtland Enumerated June 30, 1860 Post office: East Randolph Lines 26-32 723/713 Griffith Roberts, 41, Farmer, 2,000, 558, Wales Elizabeth Roberts, 40, Wales Leticia ? Roberts, 12, PA Elizabeth Roberts, 7, PA John Roberts, 4, WI Ellen Roberts, 2, WI George Palmer, 18, Farm Laborer, Found a Griffith Roberts in 1870 Census Wisconsin Columbia County / Randolph Page 342B Enumerated Line 31 Listed in the household of David H Hughes 179/172 Griffith Roberts, 17, Farm laborer, Wales Also found a Griffith Roberts in the following source: History of Columbia County, WI 1880 Griffiths Roberts -Found on Page 976 Also found a Griffith Roberts in an English & Welsh Emigrant Index in the English Genealogist Vol 4:2 1981 Page 368-372 Source Page: 371 Place: Pennsylvania Source Code: 1862 Also found a Griffith Roberts Place: NY Year: 1827 Primary Individual: Griffith Roberts Family Members: Wife Source Code: 6427 Source Name: Owen, Bob "From Aberdaron to USA In Gwreiddiau Gwynedd Roots No. 18 Spring 1990 pp 9-10 Source Annotaion: Year of departure with intended destination. Abstracted from a manuscript (Bangor MSS 16910) located in the Dept of Manuscripts at University Cp;;ege, Bangor Source Page: 10 Also found a Griffith Roberts in Place: South Dakota Primary Individual: Griffith Owen Roberts Source Code: 6714.4 Persons Naturalized in Beadle County, SD Submitted by East River Genealogical Forum, Wolsey, S Dakota. In S Dakota Genealogical Quarterly Vol 4:1 (July 1985) pp16-22 (H-L; vol 4:2 (Oct 1985) pp 67-71, (M-0); vol 4:3 (Jan 1986), pp 94-98 (P-S) Vol 4:4 (Apr 1986), pp 141-145 (S-Z) Source Page: 96 Hope it helps in someway. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:43 AM Subject: [GenWisc] Looking for grave site of GGrandfather > Hello to the list. It has been some time since I have posted this same > request and was unable to get a response so will try again. Thanks to all > that did try to locate my GGrandfathers grave site. > I am trying to locate the grave site of Griffith Roberts, born about 1825 in > Bala, Wales > and with his wife Mary and 6 children came to Columbus, Wisconsin in about > 1855-56. He is supposedly buried in Prairie-Du-Chien however, cannot find any > record of this or where he is buried. He would have been about age 39-40 > (about 1864) at the time of his death. The census records of Columbus, > Wisconsin in 1870 did not have him listed, so I can only assume that he had > died before this time. > Any help or knowledge about how to find any information on-line would be > greatly appreciated. Traveling to Wisconsin is not possible. Thanks to all > who can help. Ron > > > ==== GenWisconsin Mailing List ==== > Mailing list moderator: Brenda K. Wolfgram Moore > email: [email protected] >

Hi, Have you went to the Columbia County web site and looked around, and perhaps asked for help there or for a lookup. My husband's folks had Robertses around the Caledonia area and their next door neighbor was a large Roberts family also, but I don't know the names, and they were not related. Our Robertses are buried in the Welsh Cemetery at Portage, WI, however, I think it was in the country near the Welsh Methodist Church. I was there once. My site is: http://members.surfbest.net/krob/roberts.html and there is a peice about the church if you think you might have a connection there. Karolyn Hello to the list. It has been some time since I have posted this same request and was unable to get a response so will try again. Thanks to all that did try to locate my GGrandfathers grave site. I am trying to locate the grave site of Griffith Roberts, born about 1825 in Bala, Wales and with his wife Mary and 6 children came to Columbus, Wisconsin in about 1855-56. He is supposedly buried in Prairie-Du-Chien however, cannot find any

Hello to the list. It has been some time since I have posted this same request and was unable to get a response so will try again. Thanks to all that did try to locate my GGrandfathers grave site. I am trying to locate the grave site of Griffith Roberts, born about 1825 in Bala, Wales and with his wife Mary and 6 children came to Columbus, Wisconsin in about 1855-56. He is supposedly buried in Prairie-Du-Chien however, cannot find any record of this or where he is buried. He would have been about age 39-40 (about 1864) at the time of his death. The census records of Columbus, Wisconsin in 1870 did not have him listed, so I can only assume that he had died before this time. Any help or knowledge about how to find any information on-line would be greatly appreciated. Traveling to Wisconsin is not possible. Thanks to all who can help. Ron

Wisconsin became a territory in 1836 and the presence of a hotel in St. Croix, regardless of which county, is very unlikely. Both Chippewa and St. Croix counties were very huge in our early years. Even at statehood in 1848 they were oversized and underpopulated. There may be a St. Croix in Chippewa Co. now but there really is a St. Croix in St. Croix Co. now. Wisconsin started statehood in 1848 with about 29 counties. Perhaps a French mission church might have records?? Just speculation on my part. Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:49 AM Subject: [GenWisc] St Croix vs Chippewa Falls > Does anyone know the relationship between St Croix and Chippewa Falls? > > For instance, I know there is a St. Croix county, but there also seems to > be something else within Chippewa Falls also named St. Croix. > > So where would my Baptist LaSart be if he was in St. Croix in 1836 - I > believe in a hotel there, arriving later at Chippewa Falls? > > > Was the 1836 in St Croix or Chippewa Falls? > > What church records cover this, I wonder? > > Thanks again. > > Karen >