GIVE ME A BREAK!!! ISN'T IT A BIG ENOUGH INVASION OF OUR PERSONAL LIVES AS IT IS. RACE (WHY DO HISPANIC PEOPLE TAKE UP MORE SPACE AND REQUIRE MORE FUNDING THAN GERMANS), GENDER (DO MEN REQUIRE MORE SERVICES THAN WOMEN), NAME (MAYBE THEY MIGHT LOCATE AN ESCAPED CONVICT). NOW YOU WANT ME TO GIVE THEM THE LAST PIECE OF CLOTHING I HAVE. THIS IS AMERICA. I AM SORRY THAT YOUR GENEALOGY RESEARCH IS GOING SLOWER THAN YOU WOULD LIKE. BUT MY PRIVACY IS VERY PRECIOUS TO ME. MORE INVASIONS IN OUR LIVES AND WE MIGHT AS WELL GO AROUND SAYING "HEIL HITLER" AND LOOKING FOR ANOTHER WAY TO CATEGORIZE PEOPLE FOR WHAT EVER REASON WE CARE TO USE! BARBARA [email protected] wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --part0_900915933_boundary > Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.aol.com.1> > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Please read and act on. Pass it on. > > --part0_900915933_boundary > Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.aol.com.2> > Content-type: message/rfc822 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > Content-disposition: inline > > Return-Path: <[email protected]> > Received: from relay14.mx.aol.com (relay14.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.14]) by > air16.mail.aol.com (v45.21) with SMTP; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 01:21:34 2000 > Received: from fp-1.rootsweb.com (fp-1.rootsweb.com [207.113.233.233]) > by relay14.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) > with ESMTP id BAA02080; > Mon, 20 Jul 1998 01:21:03 -0400 (EDT) > Received: (from [email protected]) > by fp-1.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA18450; > Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:19:46 -0700 (PDT) > Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:19:46 -0700 (PDT) > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > From: "Jim Sewell" <[email protected]> > Old-To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Fw: [MILLER-L] Re: Maiden Names and Census 2000 > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:17:23 -0700 > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 > Resent-Message-ID: <"wTDK4C.A.FfE.vNts1"@fp-1.rootsweb.com> > To: [email protected] > Resent-From: [email protected] > X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/125 > X-Loop: [email protected] > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: [email protected] > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cheryl Wray <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, July 18, 1998 5:00 PM > Subject: [MILLER-L] Re: Maiden Names and Census 2000 > > >>Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 12:55:30 EDT > >>From: Ann McReynolds <[email protected]> > >>Subject: Maiden Names and Census 2000 > >>Comments: To: [email protected] > >>Comments: cc: [email protected], > >> [email protected], [email protected], > >>[email protected], [email protected], > >> [email protected] > >>To: [email protected] > > > >>I suggest that all of us who are online should email our Congressmen an= > d > >>Senators to give them the opportunity to lead the charge for compelling > the > >>Census Bureau to include women's "real" names, namely their maiden name= > s, > on > >>Census documents! Maybe if they receive a zillion or so messages they'l= > l > get > >>the point, but don't count on it. Even better, why not email the Census > >Bureau > >>directly at [email protected], and while you're at it, let them know we wa= > nt > >>everyone to be counted, with no sampling....please be calm. This commen= > t > does > >>not reflect a "political" agenda, but a "genealogical" one. > >> > >>By the way, The Census Bureau maintains an excellent website, offering > many > >>different pages, although none seem to be truly scintillating...but, yo= > u > can > >>find the Congressional Affairs Office (NO JOKE) at > >>http://www.census.gov/cao/www/congress/appormen.html, and they will tel= > l > you > >>more than you had every dreamed possible about Census 2000 and > Congressional > >>Apportionment......your tax dollars at work. > >> > >>Ann McReynolds, St. Louis > > > >>In regards to this movement to have women's maiden names > >>added to the 2000 and subsequent censuses: I think it would > >>be a very prudent thing to contact the local, state, > >>regional and national officers for the National Organization > >>for Women. Tell them it is high time and 70 years too late > >>to have women's maiden names included on our nation's census > >>records. Believe me, you could not get more clout, or more money > >>behind this movement than through them. They could exert > >>more political pressure than anything else you could ever do. > >> > >>Robert L. Williams KC7BUM > >> ---Veteran of operation Just Cause, Republic of Panama 1989 > >>Heather Williams, Bryce LeGrand Williams, Kjersten Chase Noelle William= > s > >>Ashland, Oregon > >>[email protected] > > > >I think this is a GREAT idea, but don't get your hopes up. Census-takin= > g > >is so expensive, and sampling is less expensive than a comprehensive hea= > d > >count, and statistically-speaking, just as valid. That's really what a > >census is for -- the statistics. The government does not use it to find > >out who the people are, just the number of them, where they live, and > >other facts necessary to plan and analyze programs, needs, voting > >districts, expenditure of funds, etc. I remember reading a job ad in th= > e > >newspaper at least 3 years ago for census 2000 job openings, so that's h= > ow > >long ago (at the very least) the year 2000 Census has been gearing up. = > I > >imagine even the forms were printed long ago. > > > >It's only genealogists who want to know exactly who lives where by name, > >date and place of birth, job, education, parents' birthplaces, date of > >immigration, etc. Having a head count again like it used to be would be > >our great gift to future generations. If every genealogist in the countr= > y > >were to innundate the Census Bureau, as well as every woman who believes > >her maiden name is as important as her husband's, change might be > >accomplished, at least by the 2010 census, if not the 2000 census. > > > >Anyway, the year 2000 is really the last year of the OLD millenium, not = > the > >first year of the new, so it is actually appropriate that the first cens= > us > >of the new millenium, the 2010 census, reflect an increased awareness of > >and respect for women's rights, children's rights, everyone's rights. > > > >In fact, another change could be the question on race. Instead of tryin= > g > >to pigeon-hole everyone into the same categories of White, Black, Hispan= > ic, > >Indian, etc., people ought to also have the option of providing a > >description they feel most comfortable with, such as German-American, or > >Hawaiian-Chinese-Portuguese, African-French, or whatever. This would b= > e > >more accurate and could contribute to awareness of and pride in one's > >origins. > > > >Cheryl Wray, [email protected] > > > >P.S. Sorry if you get this message more than once. Feel free to pass i= > t > >on to other lists than those listed above. > > > > > > > > --part0_900915933_boundary-- > > ==== GENTRY Mailing List ==== > The GENTRY-L list sends a separate e-mail message for each message that is posted to the MailList. The GENTRY-D list (Digest) sends one e-mail daily with all the days messages in it.