Maybe somone at the end of an e-mail attached to one of these lists might be able to help you: On the Trail of Our Ancestors: <A HREF="http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy/shipind1.htm"> www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy/dutch</A> The Dutch in New Amsterdam: <A HREF="http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~tbrass/AMST/Amst.html"> www.nh.ultranet.com/~tbrass/AMST/Amst.htmlsterdam</A> Holland Ring: <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/3427/hollandring.htm"> www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/3427/hollandring.htmg</A> Best, Francine