Rusty and Julee, You can't be impatient where genealogy is concerned! It sometimes takes years to track down one elusive ancestor. I've been searching for over 20 years (off and on) and only recently found proof of one of my ancestors. I have another line that I still can't find anything on. I have been lucky on a couple of my lines....found people online, even published books pertaining to them, but it doesn't always happen that way. When you hit a brick wall, just start out on another line. You may stumble across something along the way <grin>. Good luck! Pam (searching Shank, Funkhouser, Whitesell, VonGruenigen, and quite a few others ;) >I know the feeling Rusty. I have spent countless hours in my library >doing lookups for others, but there just doesn't seem to be anything out >there for me. I have even asked to receive any information about my Van >Velsor line so that I can start tracking them from the other direction >and eliminating those who cannot possibly be mine--nothing. Although I >am happy for all those who are getting "hits" on their queries, it sure >is discouraging. >Julee http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9467/