Thanks to everyone who sent ideas! I went through file and backup and changed the destination to drive A... this was the way to do it so that it would let me put in additional diskettes as they filled up (I used FIVE!). Thanks again! Laura Miller _______________________________________________ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

Laura: If no one has responded do a backup of the file and it will split into several disks for you. On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:23:55 -0500 "Laura Miller" <slssmiller@netzero.net> writes: > My hard drive is going to have to be restored. I am trying to save > to > floppy all of the files I have. > > I have successfully saved all of my GEDCOM files except my largest > one... I get an error message that the file is too large and I > should > try to save it to a larger formatted diskette. > > I tried uploading the GEDCOM to RootsWeb, just to save it there > until > I get the new hard drive, but I got a message that the upload was > unsuccessful (I tried this twice). > > Does anyone know how to split the GEDCOM to smaller parts, so I can > save each part and then put them back together when I can? Or are > there any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance for your advice... Laura Miller > > > ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ > Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 > ___________________________________________________________ > Myrna Goddard 253-863-2422 (optional myrna.goddard@boeing.com) ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

My hard drive is going to have to be restored. I am trying to save to floppy all of the files I have. I have successfully saved all of my GEDCOM files except my largest one... I get an error message that the file is too large and I should try to save it to a larger formatted diskette. I tried uploading the GEDCOM to RootsWeb, just to save it there until I get the new hard drive, but I got a message that the upload was unsuccessful (I tried this twice). Does anyone know how to split the GEDCOM to smaller parts, so I can save each part and then put them back together when I can? Or are there any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your advice... Laura Miller ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________

I would try to find a death date first. Contact the courthouse for this information. They may be able to get a death certificate for you also. 1942 is still somewhat recent in some aspects. I have never tried to obtain police records for anything besides events involving myself. It is possible that even though it has been 58 years they still may not release police reports to you especially if you are not family. (You didn't actually specify whether he were family or not.) Carolyn Caplinger genbuff@atlascomm.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Campbell" <katcamp@mediaone.net> To: <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 6:47 AM Subject: [GT] Suicides > Does anyone know how I would find out anything about a person who committed > suicide in Chicago in 1942? What type of records would be involved? I only > have the man's name and the year he died. Would the police have records of > that? > > Thanks. > kathy >

The coroner's records are on line for 1872-1911. http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/cookinqt.html Cook County Coroner's Inquest records dating after November 1911 are maintained by the Cook County Office of the Medical Examiner. Copies can be obtained by writing to: The Office of the Medical Examiner County of Cook 2121 W. Harrison Chicago, IL 60612 Elaine Czech List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Campbell" <katcamp@mediaone.net> To: <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 7:47 AM Subject: [GT] Suicides > Does anyone know how I would find out anything about a person who committed > suicide in Chicago in 1942? What type of records would be involved? I only > have the man's name and the year he died. Would the police have records of > that?

Does anyone know how I would find out anything about a person who committed suicide in Chicago in 1942? What type of records would be involved? I only have the man's name and the year he died. Would the police have records of that? Thanks. kathy

--part1_5f.928a026.26c9e42e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi lists, I received this from another list I belong to, and thought is most appropriate to all names. Myrna In a message dated 8/14/2000 4:45:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, CSCUNC@aol.com writes: << Would anyone care to hazzard a guess as to the populations of the largest towns in Ulster in the census of 1659? We live in country with a population approching 275 million people and it is difficult to think of a society where the largest town has fewer people than good sized suburban neighborhood. Well here are the populations of the eight LARGEST towns in Ulster according to Jonathan Bardon's "History of Ulster," page 146. Derry (population 1,052); Carrickfergus (962), Coleraine (633), Belfast (589), Armagh (409), Lisburn (357), Downpatrick (308), and Enniskillen (210). What this tells the researcher is when you can tie a specific person to a definite location in the 1600's in Ireland you are on the something. These settlers who came from Scotland and served on the various plantations for the benefit of the Lord Montgomery's and Hamiltons, and Colquhouns for the most part were soldiers or merchants and they came one by one, had families and hung around unless they were killed during the many uprisings and famines. How many different distinct genealogical lines made up the poulation of Belfast consdering there were 589 people in total. The probability of there being several unrelated lines of any one family is quite small. We think of the great migration to Pennsylvania in much the same light. History books tell us that THOUSANDS came in relentless waves on never ending ships, one after another. Listen to what Bardon says on page 177 of the same work: This migration across the Atlantic got under way just at the time that the coming of Scots into Ulster had almost completely ceased. Catholics had neither the resources nor the inclination to go to colonies, which were in any case overwhelmingly Protestant. The momentum of Presbyterian emigration gathered pace -around 3,500 left Ulster between 1725 and 1727-to reach a peak in 1728-9. Thomas Whitney, a seaman waiting to sail from Larne Lough, wrote in July 1728: "Here are a vast number of people shipping off for Pennsylvania and Boston, here are three ships at Larne, five at Derry, two at Coleraine, three at Belfast, and four at Sligo." This gives an idea from where they left and to where they were going during the precise time the Walkers and Cowans were alleged to have sailed. Three thosand or five thosand, still what we would call a village-this great wave of humanity wouldn't fill a decent high school football stadium on a nice Friday evening. We are a tight group-this little band of warriors. >> --part1_5f.928a026.26c9e42e_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <COWAN-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-za01.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by air-za05.mail.aol.com (v75_b3.11) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:45:41 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-za01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:44:59 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e7ENdfR00821; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:39:41 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:39:41 -0700 X-Original-Sender: CSCUNC@aol.com Mon Aug 14 16:39:40 2000 From: CSCUNC@aol.com Message-ID: <be.807a837.26c9dd35@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:39:33 EDT Old-To: WIGTON-WALKER-L@rootsweb.com, COWAN-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 65 Subject: [COWAN-L] Putting it in perspective Resent-Message-ID: <H-H1PB.A.hM.9MIm5@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: COWAN-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: COWAN-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <COWAN-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1514 X-Loop: COWAN-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: COWAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Would anyone care to hazzard a guess as to the populations of the largest towns in Ulster in the census of 1659? We live in country with a population approching 275 million people and it is difficult to think of a society where the largest town has fewer people than good sized suburban neighborhood. Well here are the populations of the eight LARGEST towns in Ulster according to Jonathan Bardon's "History of Ulster," page 146. Derry (population 1,052); Carrickfergus (962), Coleraine (633), Belfast (589), Armagh (409), Lisburn (357), Downpatrick (308), and Enniskillen (210). What this tells the researcher is when you can tie a specific person to a definite location in the 1600's in Ireland you are on the something. These settlers who came from Scotland and served on the various plantations for the benefit of the Lord Montgomery's and Hamiltons, and Colquhouns for the most part were soldiers or merchants and they came one by one, had families and hung around unless they were killed during the many uprisings and famines. How many different distinct genealogical lines made up the poulation of Belfast consdering there were 589 people in total. The probability of there being several unrelated lines of any one family is quite small. We think of the great migration to Pennsylvania in much the same light. History books tell us that THOUSANDS came in relentless waves on never ending ships, one after another. Listen to what Bardon says on page 177 of the same work: This migration across the Atlantic got under way just at the time that the coming of Scots into Ulster had almost completely ceased. Catholics had neither the resources nor the inclination to go to colonies, which were in any case overwhelmingly Protestant. The momentum of Presbyterian emigration gathered pace -around 3,500 left Ulster between 1725 and 1727-to reach a peak in 1728-9. Thomas Whitney, a seaman waiting to sail from Larne Lough, wrote in July 1728: "Here are a vast number of people shipping off for Pennsylvania and Boston, here are three ships at Larne, five at Derry, two at Coleraine, three at Belfast, and four at Sligo." This gives an idea from where they left and to where they were going during the precise time the Walkers and Cowans were alleged to have sailed. Three thosand or five thosand, still what we would call a village-this great wave of humanity wouldn't fill a decent high school football stadium on a nice Friday evening. We are a tight group-this little band of warriors. Regards, Robert Cowan from cool North Carolina ==== COWAN Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe to this list, the correct address is: COWAN-L-Request@rootsweb.com (or COWAN-D) Leave subject line blank. In body of message, type only: unsubscribe Turn off auto. addresses. --part1_5f.928a026.26c9e42e_boundary--

> I am a Hatfield, and I know a lot of my family names. I am new at research, and was wondering the best place to start searching for Hatfields. Please email all replies to lachlan41@go.com. You could try Obituary Central for recent Hatfield info: Obituary Links Page http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/ Obituary Archive Search Engine http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/ Local Obituary Search Engines http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/other.htm Family Surname Obituary Archives http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/famobit.htm Canadian Obituary Links Page http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/canada.htm CemSEARCH http://www.obitcentral.com/cemsearch/ ShipSEARCH http://www.obitcentral.com/shipsearch/

I am a Hatfield, and I know a lot of my family names. I am new at research, and was wondering the best place to start searching for Hatfields. Please email all replies to lachlan41@go.com.

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Hi, New to this list! Some of the names I'm researching are mentioned above. My recent brick wall is regarding my ggrandmother. I am going on the information passed down by my grandparents on this one, but I've already found some errors, so maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree. I was told that her name was Blanche Naverine, born and died in San Jose, Santa Clara County, CA (though I don't have exact years of birth and death -- first child born 1925). Looking up her son's birth record told me that her name was instead spelled Navarrine. That's the only place I've been able to find this woman at all... I've looked through all possible CA birth and death records (easy, since *I* live in San Jose, too!) which do not report her. I've also tried to figure out a time of marriage, given childrens' birth dates, and haven't found anything there. The son born in 1925 was born in Berkeley, CA (Alameda County). I'm also trying to work more on my paternal ggrandparents, which has been a pain. I haven't been able to find much of anything. My ggrandfather (married to Ms. Navarrine) was David M. Yool, and I don't know anything else about him, nor have I ben able to find him anyplace. I'd appreciate any suggestions or help! Thanks! Brooke Yool San Jose, CA ===== ~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~ Why do they put Braille dots on the keypad of a drive-up ATM? Brooke Yool brooke_yool@yahoo.com http://www.DreamFire.com/bey/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

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Coats of arms with intense graphics, beautiful site, is at http://www.designsofwonder.com/ Give it time to download. Elaine Researching Bohemian Surnames S L E P I C K A & H R U S K A ----- Original Message ----- From: "kimberly barenthin" <kb41758@alltel.net> To: <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 3:32 AM Subject: [GT] Re: Coat of Arms > My name is Kim and I was wondering if there is a site for coat of arms for the royalty. If anyone knows where to find this please contact me at kb41758@alltel.net. My brother-in-law is trying to find his family's coat of arms. Thank you for you help. > Kim > kb41758@alltel.net > > >

To the lady who was researching the McDonald Clan, I have worked on this family in Elbert Co., Ga. Before that, they came from N. C. I think they were a branch of Flora McDonald's Clan who came to NC (Moore Co.) before the American Revolution. The best place to search the Scottish records is at a Family History Center of the Mormon Church. They have christening records which you can use either on the computer, or on fiche. All that you do is type in a name. An excellent place to research. Good luck! Of course, I have Scottish books for sale on my site. http://www.genealogy-books.com/books/gpcscot.html Jeannette Austin www.genealogy-books.com

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I'm trying to locate a marriage record for my great-grandparents but have run into a roadblock. Both were immigrants, although from different countries at different times in the 1880s. As far as I know, both went straight from the port of entry to St. Paul, Minnesota, where they presumably met and married, and lived until their deaths. I don't know the date of their marriage but can make an educated guess, between immigration dates and the birth of their first child. A volunteer searched the index of marriage records in the county that includes St. Paul but couldn't find anything even close to the names I have, so now what? I guess they must have gotten married in a neighboring county, so should I study a map and find volunteers who could do look-ups in all surrounding areas? I don't know what church my relatives attended, although it apparently was Lutheran. That doesn't narrow the field much in a large city. Where should I go from here in tracing the records? Nancy