David and Key Sly... I just received an e-mail from you with the attachments "New_Napster_Site.MP3.pif" and a blank text file "ATT01186.txt". Norton's AntiVirus has flagged the "New_Napster_Site.MP3.pif" file as containing the W32.Badtrans.B@mm Virus. If you did not intend to send me this attachment - please ensure your system is clear of all viruses before sending further e-mails. Merry... Merry... Ron

I will do minimum amounts of lookups for NO charge to beginning researchers. I work at the University Library in Provo as a volunteer, and also have access to all the records of SLC FHC which is north of us 30 miles. This is as time permits. Our job is to teach how to access the programs and use them and also to point people in the right direction for their own research. My Christmas gift to the list. Just don't expect instantaneous action. I'm getting slower as I get older but have researched for over 40 years in the USA and I know how to get someone to poiint you to the right direction in foreign lands. Helene

> This is what i think is happeneing here. The individual that posted the > message soliciting your business is subscribed to the Ancestry data base > so that they can access the information in that database and then charge > you for looking it up--which, in some parts of that database, you can > get the same info free. While you were close, IMHO you didn't grab the magic ring this go around. Had you visited the web page listed you would have read that they are in Salt Lake City and have access to the LDS records and archives. > I really wonder what Ancestry.com would have to > say about a "professional" genealogist taking info from their database > and reselling it to you. Probably not much -- but their attorneys might have a lot to say. > Sounds like a copyright issue to me ?! Let's not bring that copyright stuff to this list! It has already worn out it's welcome on other admin lists!! Ron

Then the person who posted was either spamming or innocently sent it through to the list. The Listowner will have to deal with it. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "RESmith" <resmith@cableone.net> To: <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [GEN~TIPS] Salt Lake City Genealogy Service > Elaine > > > There is no indication that the Spawn site mentioned below is a Rootsweb > > website. It appears to be a commercial vendor's website. > > No, the Spawn site is NOT a Rootsweb website -- but the post below WAS > posted to a Rootsweb website and is a definite commercial ad: > > [Quote] <snip>

Then why do we perpetuate the misuse of rootsweb mailing lists by continuing to repost the commercial message and giving it more free advertisement ?! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [GEN~TIPS] Salt Lake City Genealogy Service Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 09:57:34 -0700 Resent-From: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 09:58:00 -0700 From: "RESmith" <resmith@cableone.net> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com References: <104.e6115da.2958238e@aol.com> <002b01c18c91$5d53bcc0$f3d0fea9@hphomepc> <00fb01c18c99$de36c1e0$e1a61718@alex1.va.home.com> Elaine > There is no indication that the Spawn site mentioned below is a Rootsweb > website. It appears to be a commercial vendor's website. No, the Spawn site is NOT a Rootsweb website -- but the post below WAS posted to a Rootsweb website and is a definite commercial ad: [Quote] This is an announcement for a new genealogy service located in Salt Lake City, Utah, doing research for people who need records researched from the LDS Family History Library. I have done heir searches for government offices, and my own family research for the past three and a half years now and am experienced in searching the family history records and would be happy to search for your individual needs.

There is no indication that the Spawn site mentioned below is a Rootsweb website. It appears to be a commercial vendor's website. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helene Pockrus" <helenepockrus@earthlink.net> To: <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [GEN~TIPS] Salt Lake City Genealogy Service > I understand that there is no selling of products or services on the > rootsweb sites. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <SandKatC@aol.com> > To: <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 11:22 PM > Subject: Re: [GEN~TIPS] Salt Lake City Genealogy Service > > > > > > In a message dated 12/22/01 4:52:29 PM, spawnresearch@hotmail.com writes: > > > > << http://research.freephp.digiro.net/ >> > > > > I checked the site and you forgot to mention that it isn't free. > > > > Sandi in Simi > > > > A hug is the perfect gift - one size fits all, and nobody minds if you > > > > exchange it. > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

> Then the person who posted was either spamming or innocently sent it through > to the list. The Listowner will have to deal with it. I believe that is was Helene Pockrus was eluding to! FWIW: I DO subscribe to this list - there is no need to send an e-mail both to the list AND my e-mail address! Merry... Merry... Ron

Elaine > There is no indication that the Spawn site mentioned below is a Rootsweb > website. It appears to be a commercial vendor's website. No, the Spawn site is NOT a Rootsweb website -- but the post below WAS posted to a Rootsweb website and is a definite commercial ad: [Quote] This is an announcement for a new genealogy service located in Salt Lake City, Utah, doing research for people who need records researched from the LDS Family History Library. I have done heir searches for government offices, and my own family research for the past three and a half years now and am experienced in searching the family history records and would be happy to search for your individual needs. Spawn Research Services http://research.freephp.digiro.net/ Spawn Research Services-- Salt Lake Based Genealogy Services http://research.freephp.digiro.net/ [End Quote]

I understand that there is no selling of products or services on the rootsweb sites. ----- Original Message ----- From: <SandKatC@aol.com> To: <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [GEN~TIPS] Salt Lake City Genealogy Service > > In a message dated 12/22/01 4:52:29 PM, spawnresearch@hotmail.com writes: > > << http://research.freephp.digiro.net/ >> > > I checked the site and you forgot to mention that it isn't free. > > Sandi in Simi > > A hug is the perfect gift - one size fits all, and nobody minds if you > > exchange it. > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Use of this list to further your business interests will result in your permanent removal from the list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

In a message dated 12/22/01 4:52:29 PM, spawnresearch@hotmail.com writes: << http://research.freephp.digiro.net/ >> I checked the site and you forgot to mention that it isn't free. Sandi in Simi A hug is the perfect gift - one size fits all, and nobody minds if you exchange it.

This is an announcement for a new genealogy service located in Salt Lake City, Utah, doing research for people who need records researched from the LDS Family History Library. I have done heir searches for government offices, and my own family research for the past three and a half years now and am experienced in searching the family history records and would be happy to search for your individual needs. Spawn Research Services http://research.freephp.digiro.net/ Spawn Research Services-- Salt Lake Based Genealogy Services http://research.freephp.digiro.net/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Does anyone have any idea what a plus sign in the number of years married column would indicate. Helen

You might try this and see what they offer. Beulah McCain <A HREF="http://lcweb.loc.gov/rr/">Library of Congress Services for Researchers</A>

I use IE5 and it is working great as of 6:03pm CST. Bill Cribbs Obituary Central http://www.obitcentral.com Obituary Links Page http://www.obitlinkspage.com GenDirectory.com http://www.gendirectory.com -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Campbell [mailto:katcamp@mediaone.net] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 2:50 PM To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GEN~TIPS] Ancestry Subscribers Are there any other Ancestry.com subscribers in this section, and if so, are you having any type of problems accessing Ancestry from either Netscape or Microsoft IE???? I cannot access Ancestry, rootsweb, usgenweb, or myfamily.com today with either of them. However, they do work fine with AOL from my computer. Thanks. kathy ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== The archives of this list are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GenTips or http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=gentips ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Bill & Kathy and the list: My message from Kathy had a virus so suspect that the virus protector on Ancestry is shuting Kathy out. I sent her a message to update her anti virus program. Helene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cribbs" <cribbswh@tbi-set.org> To: <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: RE: [GEN~TIPS] Ancestry Subscribers > I use IE5 and it is working great as of 6:03pm CST. > Bill Cribbs > Obituary Central http://www.obitcentral.com > Obituary Links Page http://www.obitlinkspage.com > GenDirectory.com http://www.gendirectory.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathy Campbell [mailto:katcamp@mediaone.net] > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 2:50 PM > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GEN~TIPS] Ancestry Subscribers > > > Are there any other Ancestry.com subscribers in this section, and if so, are > you having any type of problems accessing Ancestry from either Netscape or > Microsoft IE???? I cannot access Ancestry, rootsweb, usgenweb, or > myfamily.com today with either of them. However, they do work fine with AOL > from my computer. > > Thanks. > kathy > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > The archives of this list are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GenTips > or > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=gentips > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Do not include the word "request" in the email address to the list--it will never get there. > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > >

Are there any other Ancestry.com subscribers in this section, and if so, are you having any type of problems accessing Ancestry from either Netscape or Microsoft IE???? I cannot access Ancestry, rootsweb, usgenweb, or myfamily.com today with either of them. However, they do work fine with AOL from my computer. Thanks. kathy

Does anyone know if there is a way to get photocopied pages of a book that is only held at the Library of Congress? I know what page numbers I need, and the name of the book. Thanks. kathy

I seem to never get any mail from anyone anymore. My email address is: trhalstead. Please make sure that I am on the lists I sent in this recently, but I have never seen it posted: Notice to Halstead Family Descendents of Don Van Ver Halstadt. He came to New Amsterdam of New York on the 16th day of August, on the Pioneer with Major Charles Simpsom Roosevelt and others under Capt. Charles Drake. Anyone having knowledge of this please call or write Clyde Halstead or Ted Halstead Clyde Halstead's address and phone number is: Clyde Halstead Rt. 1, Box 388-1 St. Albans, WV 25177 Phone: (304) 727-9459 Ted Halstead's address and phone number is: Theodore Halstead 141 Valley Dr. Nitro, WV 25143-1132 Phone: (304) 776-3677 E-Mail: Trhalstead@aol.com We will appreciate your help very much Ted Halstead

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Civil War Units File CWUNITS New Version Available Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 05:36:16 -0600 From: Carol Botteron <botteron@alum.mit.edu> To: Roots-L@rootsweb.com, Civil-War@rootsweb.com, h-civwar@h-net.msu.edu Version 6.5 of the U.S. Civil War Units File (Sept. 23, 2001) is available on the web and from the Rootsweb server (see below for addresses). The Civil War Units File (CWUNITS) lists people who have information on a unit or ship (often rosters, battles, etc.) and are willing to help others research it. Some are experts; most are "just" helpful fellow researchers. If you see a listing for a unit you are interested in, you can send the contact person email and share information. There are also listings for battles, organizations, counties, ethnic groups, etc. The following addresses no longer work and we were unable to find the people, so their listings have been deleted. If you are one of these people or know how to contact one, please email me. jlhale@zoomnet.net (Joe Hale) lunak@prairie.nodak.edu mabry@pw.usda.gov paul.delmore@f601.n2613.z1.fidonet.org RATLIFF@a1.flo.med.ge.com CWUNITS is five files (plus one for the intro and one for the FAQ) as follows: Part Filename Contents 0 CWUNITS introduction only 1 CWUNITS1 USA national & states A-I 2 CWUNITS2 USA states K-N 3 CWUNITS3 USA states O-W 4 CWUNITS4 CSA national & states A-M 5 CWUNITS5 CSA states N-V Q FAQ frequently asked questions and answers Parts 1-5 include the intro as well as the listings. Within a state the units are organized by number (1st Infantry, etc.). The Civil War Units File is on the American Civil War Homepage: http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/warweb.html under the heading Rosters & Regimental Histories. I don't run this site. To get the latest version by email at any time: Send email to ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com (Upper and lower case count in the email address and everywhere else.) Subject: archive Text is: get genealog.cwunits get genealog.cwunits1 get genealog.cwunits2 get genealog.cwunitsq etc. The period (.) has to be after genealog and before the file name. To get a listing of all of the ROOTS-L files, send the command get roots-l.catalog Another way to obtain files is via anonymous ftp. To do this, ftp to ftp.rootsweb.com using "anonymous" (withOUT quotes!) as your username and your net address as your password. Issue the command: cd /pub/roots-l/genealog/ You may issue a dir command to see a listing of files, use ctrl-s to temporarily halt the dir command, and ctrl-q to resume the dir command. The command for retrieving a file via ftp is: get genealog.filename substituting, of course, the proper filename for "filename" above. Notice the PERIOD between "genealog" and the filename. Then issue a quit command to exit. If you have a file you would like included in the GENEALOG area, please send email to the Genealog administrator, Vicki Lindsay Thauvin, at chance@eskimo.com describing the file. Please do _not_ send her a file without asking. Questions and new listings for the CWUNITS file go to me at botteron@alum.mit.edu Please do _not_ send me attachments. Carol Botteron (ancestors on both sides) botteron@alum.mit.edu

To all US Listers We awoke this morning to the horrific news of the terrible happenings in your country. We are in shock and it must be terrible being there. We wish to convey our great support to you all. Take great care of yourselves and your friends and relatives. Jan & John Marchant Sydney, Australia