Hi Betty, Thanks so much for the address's. Posting this on GenTips as I have had a few requests for this list. Thanks to all, Judith

Truer words were never spoken! Loved it. CS Janis wrote: > > Just rec'd this from Kathie Davis on KYROOTS and thought I'd pass it > along! > > I Shot A Query Into The Net > > I shot a query into the Net. > I haven't got an answer yet, > But seven people gave me hell > And said I ought to learn to spell; > > A posted message called me rotten > For ignoring mail I'd never gotten; > An angry message asked me, "Please > Don't send such drivel overseas"; > > A lawyer sent me private mail > And swore he'd slap me in jail -- > I'd mentioned Un*x in my gem > And failed to add the T and M; > > One netter thought it was a hoax: > "Hereafter, post to <net.jokes>!"; > Another called my grammar vile > And criticized my writing style. > > Each day I scan each Subject line > In hopes the topic will be mine; > I shot a query into the Net. > I haven't got an answer yet ........ > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: > http://www.rootsweb.com

As a new researcher I would appreciate information on these items also. Thank you. Doodle

Just rec'd this from Kathie Davis on KYROOTS and thought I'd pass it along! I Shot A Query Into The Net I shot a query into the Net. I haven't got an answer yet, But seven people gave me hell And said I ought to learn to spell; A posted message called me rotten For ignoring mail I'd never gotten; An angry message asked me, "Please Don't send such drivel overseas"; A lawyer sent me private mail And swore he'd slap me in jail -- I'd mentioned Un*x in my gem And failed to add the T and M; One netter thought it was a hoax: "Hereafter, post to <net.jokes>!"; Another called my grammar vile And criticized my writing style. Each day I scan each Subject line In hopes the topic will be mine; I shot a query into the Net. I haven't got an answer yet ........

IMMIGRATION AND NATURALIZATION THROUGH CASTLE GARDENS AND ELLIS ISLAND AND WHERE TO FIND RECORDS: The history of immigration spans American history. This movement of people ultimately brought 42 million immigrants into this country. The government passed no immigration laws until 1819 and even then they only covered the standard for steerage conditions on sailing vessels and made provisions that limited immigration records must be kept. Not until 1882 were immigration regulations made at all uniform. During the peak years of immigration, from about 1900 to 1914, as many as 5,000 people a day were processed through Ellis Island. But before Ellis Island, Castle Garden, an old fort on the lower tip of Manhattan (now Battery Park), was designated in 1855 as an immigrant station under state supervision. When the new federal law was passed in 1882, Castle Garden continued to operate under contract to the U. S. Government, but by 1890, it's facilities had long since proved to be inadequate for the ever-increasing number of immigrant arrivals. After a government survey of potential locations, a 27 acres parcel of land called Ellis Island was the site chosen to establish an entirely new U. S. immigration station. The history of Ellis Island tells us that the Dutch had originally purchased the land from the Indians and established the colony of New Amsterdam. It had a succession of owners before the American Revolution when Samuel Ellis bought and linked his name to it. New York purchased Ellis Island in 1808 and in turn sold it to the federal government who wanted to build a fort on it. Fort Gibson was fortified just before the War of 1812 but it saw little action during the war. It was used primarily as a munitions depot until it was transformed in 1892 into an immigration center. Construction began in 1890 and hundreds of workers labored at a large three-story reception center, hospital for the ill and quarantined immigrants, laundry facility, a boiler-house and an electric generating plant. Smaller buildings included a dormitory, restaurant and baggage station. Over the years, ballast from ships dumped near Ellis Island built it up, and the landfill and completion of sea walls brought it to it's present size. When it was completed and dedicated on Jan 1, 1892, it was a self-contained city. Annie Moore from County Cork was the first person processed at Ellis Island from the SS NEVADA and she was presented with a ten dollar goldpiece. The ships CITY OF PARIS and the VICTORIA were also processed that day. Passenger lists for these and hundreds of other vessels which entered New York and other American ports have been preserved on microfilm and are available for those who wish to trace their ancestor's passage to America. The life of the first station at Ellis Island was short. All the pine-frame buildings burned to the ground in a disastrous fire on June 15, 1897. Construction began immediately to replace the structures with fireproof buildings of brick, ironwork and limestone trimmings. It took 2-1/2 years to complete and the station reopened again in Dec 1900. Emigration became a topic of conversation in communities all over Europe. The United States promised fulfillment of grand dreams which could no longer be kept alive in their native lands. For some it meant religious or political freedom; for others, freedom from conscription. For the majority it meant opportunity and the chance to improve their economic conditions. However, rumors had circulated about those who were denied entry because they looked suspicious or did not promptly answer the questions of immigration inspectors. The joy and excitement of reaching the "promised land" was mingled with the terrible dread of being rejected. Most had sold all their possessions and property, often going into debt to finance their journey. Yet they came by the millions. Passengers of "means" escaped the rigors of the Ellis Island ordeal by being processed aboard the vessel itself, then delivered directly to Manhattan. The poorer classes sat sometimes three to four days in the crowded harbor awaiting their ship's turn to disembark passengers. Once on the island, they were closely observed by Inspectors who looked for the ill and infirm, empty stares indicating feebleminded and shortness of breath of those who climbed the stairs to the registry hall. The room looked like a stockyard with it's metal pipe partitions which were later exchanged for benches. The Registry Hall was frequently referred to as the "Hall of Tears". It was filled to the walls with would-be Americans wearing numbered tags pinned to their clothes awaiting the battery of legal and medical examinations and hoping to be allowed to stay. Some family members might be accepted and others rejected. The painful decision to stay or return with a loved one had to be made on the spot. Some could not face the disgrace or ruin of deportation and it is estimated that as many as 3000 immigrants committed suicide. To enter the U. S. the immigrants knew that one must be disease-free and create the impression that they could make a living. The first doctors they saw made a quick examination and noted any suspicions with a chalk mark on the right shoulder of the immigrant. People thus marked were held back for further examinations by a second group of doctors. Trachoma, a potentially blinding and highly contagious eye disease, was the most common reason for detaining an immigrant. Most though got a clean bill of health and only about two percent were turned back. Once the doctors had passed an immigrant, they then proceeded to the registration clerks where names were always a problem. This is where names were twisted as most immigrants could not spell their name so clerks jotted down names as they sounded. Some name changes were deliberate when immigrants took new names for themselves knowing they had a better chance of getting a job. Once they were passed through here, they went to the baggage room to claim their belongings. Then they went to the money exchange desk where they exchanged their money for American dollars. Next to the railroad agent where they purchased a ticket to their destination. If they were bound for other than New York, they traveled by barge to New Jersey rail stations and from there they entered the mainstream of America. At the end of WWI, many Americans were eager to see immigration restricted. The Immigration Act of 1917 carried a demand for a literacy test and reduced significantly the number of arrivals but only for a short time. The number of arrivals in New York soon climbed again and 500,000 immigrants entered through the Port in 1921. The government then enacted newer and more powerful methods of exclusion in 1921 and again in 1924. Soon the traffic through Ellis Island subsided to a trickle. A final revision of the "National origins" quota system went into effect in 1929 and the maximum number of all admissions was reduced to 150,000. As a result, in Nov 1954, the last immigrant and the last detainee left Ellis Island and the immigration center was declared as surplus property by the General Services Administration (GSA). Ship arrival records had to be filed with the local Custom House. It is estimated that only about 40 percent of those records have survived and were turned over to the National Archives. All ships passenger lists which have survived have been microfilmed. Those microfilm copies for the Port of New York between 1846 and 1907 are not indexed. All other ports are indexed. Many immigrants before 1891-92 entered through cities such as Boston, Philadelphia, Charleston, New Orleans and cities on the west coast of the U.S.A. Restoration of Ellis Island began in 1982 with the renovation of the Great Hall. A genealogy exhibit where visitors will be able to search for immigrant information is planned. A computer will retrieve data on individuals including the name of the vessel on which they arrived, port of origin, arrival date in New York and other relevant details. It is expected that the number of tourists visiting the reborn Ellis Island will be the same each day as the average number of immigrants who passed through its days of operation as a receiving station. In your search for your immigrant ancestor, look for Certificates of Citizenship issued to individuals who had completed all the requirements of entry. They were often saved and passed down in families. This certificate may show no more than the name of the immigrant, the country from which he relinquished citizenship, the date of the event and the name of the court where naturalization was finalized. The location of the court is the key to finding additional papers which may provide more detail. Not all aliens were naturalized but if they were, the documents in court records will provide information necessary to trace your ancestor's Americanization. You may find additional information including port of arrival and name of the vessel. Naturalization laws were not made uniform until 1906. Prior to this time, aliens could naturalize in any court but information varied from court to court. The National Archives and its eleven branches are natural starting places for obtaining naturalization information. It should be noted that it was usually required that an alien be a resident of this country for at least five years. The Declaration of Intention or "first papers" were completed and filed with a court soon after the immigrant arrived in this country. You might find these in port cities. After the five years stay in America, the immigrant was required to go to court once more and file his "final papers". It was not necessary to do this in the same court as the "first papers". Certain groups of people were naturalized without filing a Declaration of Intention. Wives and children of naturalized males generally became citizens automatically. Those who served in the U. S. military forces also became citizens after an honorable discharge. Military records then become another source of information. Passenger Lists are available at the National Archives and at some of its branches. They consist of custom passenger lists, transcripts and abstracts of customs passenger lists, immigration passenger lists and indexes to these lists. The records were created by captains or masters of vessels, collectors of customs and immigration officials at the port of entry. They document a high percentage of the immigrations between 1815 and 1914 when most immigrants came to the U.S. Most came through the port of New York and Ellis Island and there is an Index to Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York 1897-1902 however there is no index for New York arrivals for the period 1847-1896. An Alphabetical index of passenger lists for 1902-1943 has been microfilmed. Unless an exact date of arrival is known, it may take many hours of searching the lists of ship arrivals. For more specific information on passenger lists, naturalization records, military records and other collections, consult the Guide to Genealogical Research in the National Archives. Over a million immigrants came to the colonies before 1820 but few were recorded on passenger lists. Most of the known lists have been published and many have been indexed in Filby's Passenger and Immigration List Index and Supplements (11 volumes) but you must know the full name, approximate age and date of arrival, also their nationality. To search the U. S. Customs Passenger Lists in the National Archives after 1820, you must know the full name, age, approximate date of arrival and port of entry. You may find in these records the name, age, sex, occupation, country of origin, port of departure, destination, date of arrival, name of the vessel. Immigration lists or "ship manifests" which began being used in 1883 give more detailed information. The genealogical treasure house of the world, the Genealogical Department of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon) is engaged in the most active and comprehensive genealogical program known to the world. Micro filming is the center of this genealogical operation. Trained specialists throughout the word are micro filming documents; land grants, deeds, probate, marriage, cemetery, parish registers and have accumulated over a millions rolls thus far. They are available in Salt Lake City and through branch libraries across the country. At the present time there is an extraction program being worked on by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints where the subject is the records of Ellis Island from 1892-1924. The finished product will become part of Family Search which is the program that includes the IGI, Ancestral File etc. held at Family History Centers. The LDS extraction statistics for 1997 show Ellis Island had 3,553,067 individual entries. Approximately 28% of the Ellis Island project has been completed. The Family History Library has microfilm copies of county naturalization before 1930 for many states and it has most federal court naturalization records before 1930. Where records are available, it is quite possible to reconstruct the history of an entire family. Finding these records, however, is only the beginning of the project. Shirley Hornbeck - shornbeck@tminet.com My web page: <http://users.tminet.com/shornbeck> THIS & THAT GENEALOGY TIPS: <http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/5643/tandt.html>

I love this little poem! Thanks for sharing it! Donna

I would like the answer to that question also. Please post answer to list. thanks, Carole Re:<Has anyone purchased the Census or Marriage superbundle CD's from Broderbund? Did you consider them easy to use and/or worthwhile?>

by way of Genealogy Records Service wrote: > > Hi folks - it's been awhile since I posted this list so I thought I'd put it > out here - please email me with any changes or new volunteers. Thanks, Kay > Have seen this list 2-3 times, but there are still no volunteers in Ohio or W. Virginia. Anyone out there like to volunteer? These are my states of main interest. Phyllis

To go to the states lists you can go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/us/index.html Also, there is a Frequently Asked Questions site for Roots Web that includes a lot of information about the mail lists at: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~help/index.htm rhdtrish ROCKALL@aol.com wrote: > Since this is the third request I will post this to the GenTip mail list. Go > to the rootsweb homepage http://www.rootsweb.com. There you will find mail > lists. If I remember correctly it is in the list of links above the Title. > Click on it. You can then choose Surnames or geographic areas. When I have > been there the only country in blue is the United States. Click on it. This > will take you to the US site. The list of states is to the left. It tells > you how to subscribe-- basically click on the blue link and Email form will > appear type --subscribe-- in the body of the message. If you have AOL or need > to put a word on the subject line you can put subscribe also but really only > the body of the message is read. It would help if you knew the county or > counties you are interested in. Some like Michigan have a statewide mail list > with just a few counties. Others have a lot more counties but no general > state list. You can choose either list or digest form. List is separate > messages. Digest puts several messages together to Email at one time. > > This is the chance to contact people in that area and pick their brains. Also > other people who are interested in that area are on the list and can help. > Someone might even be researching your family. Some of the list owners are > involved in genweb. > > Toni Gorman > rockall@aol.com > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work!

There is also a great site of volunteers who will check CD's for you. Try http://www.seidata.com/~lhoffman/cdlist.html GFSNance@aol.com wrote: > My new cousin told me I can borrow FTM Cds from the library, so far they have > 30 of them there and I can even go to my branch and order them and take them > back without going downtown unless I need to do some research. > GFS Nance@aol.com > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: > http://www.rootsweb.com

Hi folks - it's been awhile since I posted this list so I thought I'd put it out here - please email me with any changes or new volunteers.  Thanks, Kay COURTHOUSE LOOKUP VOLUNTEERS - updated June 6, 1998 (9:01am) GUIDELINES FOR USE OF VOLUNTEER LIST: 1. This list is compiled of and meant for use by subscribers to the GenTips and GenChat mailing lists.  PLEASE DO NOT FORWARD THIS LIST OR ANY PORTION OF IT to any other mailing lists, web pages, etc. 2. Remember this a volunteer list - when requesting information, bear in mind the volunteers are not here to do research but rather to get information from a specific document, i.e., names from birth certificate, etc., OR to gt a copy of the document for you.  In cases where a copy is requested, the volunteer will ask for reimbursement for their actual expenses, not their time. 3. Be as specific as possible in what you are asking for, i.e., I would like the names of John Doe's parents born in any county, any state on any date, any year.  (You get the idea, right?) 4. Any questions about the list, names of those wishing to volunteer or notification of bad e-mail addresses should be sent to me at BKAYMEL@aol.com THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION AND TIME ... ALABAMA Colbert Co. Alangley@hiwaay.net (Anna) Franklin County Alangley@hiwaay.net (Anna) Lauderdale County Alangley@hiwaay.net (Anna) (NOTE: ANNA WILL BE HAVING SURGERY ON MARCH 30 AND EXPECTS A LONG RECUPERATION PERIOD - Good luck Anna and we all hope you're feeling better soon!!!) ARKANSAS Craighead County PATO22@prodigy.net Crittenden County colleen@memphisonline.com (Colleen) Hot Spring County roots@ipa.net (Tracey) [NOTE: CAN ALSO DO CENSUS LOOKUPS FOR HOT SPRINGS (1850) AND LONOKE COUNTY(1880)] Census lookups, Desmond Walls Allen books, and 1914-40 Death Records (must provide name, county and approximate date of death) Contact jjjmetal@ipa.net (Sheila) CALIFORNIA Alameda County dianeg@slip.net (Diane) Contra Costa County dianeg@slip.net Glenn County rrm@tmi.org (Robin) Los Angeles County FitePam@aol.com {MARRIAGE & BIRTH RECORDS ONLY] Napa County patsygal@napanet.net (Patricia) Sacramento rrm@tmi.org (Robin) San Bernadino County ScismGenie@aol.com [ALSO WILL DO LOOKUPS IN SCISM AND ALLIED FAMILIES, 1942, BY DELOS M. SCISM AND IN THE PEFFLEY FAMILIES IN AMERICA DATABASE (1700>) EXPANDED DATABASE BASED ON 1938 BOOK BY MAY MILLER FROST] San Francisco Dashiell41@aol.com San Mateo County Relaford@aol.com (Joyce) Santa Clara Relaford@aol.com (Joyce) [North courthouse annex] Santa Clara County rrm@tmi.org (Robin) Shasta County rrm@tmi.org (Robin) Tehama County rrm@tmi.org (Robin) COLORADO Mesa County Star@gj.net (Jacque) CONNECTICUT New London County Annsquest1@aol.com (Anna) FLORIDA Collier County Bcook88884@aol.com (Bridgette) Highlands County rconnell@strato.net (Richard) Hillsborough Daydream@gte.net (Caryn) Jackson County zion@phonl.com (Mary) Lake County Phawtho805@aol.com Lee County rklewislaw@juno.com (Robert) Leon County Stockman79@aol.com Naples Bcook88884@aol.com   (Bridgette) Orange County jewald@worldnet.att.net (Joseph) Pasco County Ddrevas@aol.com Pinellas County Daydream@gte.net (Caryn) GEORGIA Augusta County j.blades-N.Augusta@worldnet.att.net (Linda) Bibb County Cclay32424@aol.com (Catharine) Bryan County Demon@CLDS.NET (Shana) Chatham County Demon@CLDS.NET (Shana) Lamar County qgbam@accessunited.com (Tim) Liberty County Demon@CLDS.NET (Shana) Pike County qgbam@accessunited.com (Tim) Upson County qgbam@accessunited.com (Tim) ILLINOIS Adams County Momsmail@webtv.net (Karen) Jefferson County Stephne@midwest.net (Stephanie) Madison County             Kid@mvp.net (Lisa) INDIANA Marion County BRENDO@aol.com Parke County BRENDO@aol..com Vermillion County BRENDOaol.com Wayne County jaibird@thepoint.net (Jerilyn) IOWA Cerro Cordo County fadams@willowtree.com (Frank) Hancock County fadams@willowtree.com (Frank) Plymouth County bwoolsey@heartlandtel.com (Beverly) Pottawattamie County CindyWolfe@aol.com (Cindy) Sioux County bwoolsey@heartlandtel.com (Beverly) Winnebago County fadams@willowtree.com (Frank) Woodbury County bwoolsey@heartlandtel.com (Beverly) Worth County fadams@willowtree.com (Frank) KENTUCKY Boone County GISCHMID@aol.com Calloway County pcrawford@mursuky.campus.mci.net (Patricia) Fayette County Ebrown9154@aol.com Kenton County Rockychip@aol.com (Betty) LOUISIANA Lafayette Parish doodley@iamerica.net MARYLAND Baltimore County Hemtalk@aol.com (Hank) Baltimore County PJSTON@aol.com (Patricia) Carroll County PJSTON@aol.com (Patricia) MASSACHUSETTS Norfolk County AlisonU@aol.com MICHIGAN Berrien County CGENIE@aol.com Gratiot County kubinjd@mach7.com (Henry) [NOTE: ALSO HAS DAR CEMETERY RECORDS THROUGH 1933 OF VETERANS] Macomb County Doug250@aol.com (Doug) Muskegon County BJ283@aol.com (Betty) MINNESOTA Carver County LynnSH@aol.com Fillmore County PATOMN@aol.com Hennepin County LynnSH@aol.com (Lynn) Mower County PATOMN@aol.com Olmsted County PATOMN@aol.com Scott County LynnSH@aol.com MISSISSIPPI Adams County ALSEMAN@aol.com [NOTE: CAN ALSO DO SOME CIVIL WAR LOOKUPS FOR THE NATIONAL CEMETERY AT NATCHEZ, MS, HE IS THE DIRECTOR THERE] De Soto County colleen@memphisonline.com (Colleen) MISSOURI St. Louis MADMANSMOM@aol.com MONTANA Park County wagon@mcn.net (Mary Anne) NEBRASKA Dakota County bwoolsey@acsnet.com (Beverly) Douglas County CindyWolfe@aol.com (Cindy) NEVADA Carson City Dedebick@aol.com (Deanna) Clark County okiedarlin@aol.com (D'Layne Reynolds) Dacota County bwoolsey@heartlandtel.com (Beverly) Reno irishis@juno.com Reno Dedebick@aol.com (Deanna) NEW HAMPSHIRE Belknap County kim@cyberportal.net (Kim) NEW JERSEY Atlantic County METHUMPER2@aol.com Burlington County METHUMPER2@aol.com Camden County METHUMPER2@aol.com Cape May County METHUMPER2@aol.com Cumberland County METHUMPER2@aol.com Gloucester County METHUMPER2@aol.com Mercer County METHUMPER2@aol.com NEW YORK Jefferson County boni@ix.netcom.com NORTH CAROLINA Brunswick County Pricha1954@aol.com (Pam) [includes townships of Town Creek, Winnabow, Supply, Southport and Shallotte] Randolph County Lcraven415@aol.com (Lisa) Union County janeva@juno.com (Janeva K. Bailey) OKLAHOMA Creek County OKDouble7@aol.com Lincoln County OKDouble7@aol.com OREGON Deschutes County TALK@hwy97.net (Linda) Multnomah County KntryCrazy@aol.com PENNSYLVANIA Lancaster County Kromeo@aol.com (Karen) Luzerne County ELLEN542@aol.com Philadelphia County METHUMPER2@aol.com RHODE ISLAND Pawtucket ALSFORD@aol.com (Nora) Providence ALSFORD@aol.com (Nora) (NOTE: can do library, State Archives, monthly trips once or twice a month) SOUTH CAROLINA Aiken County sdfink@groupz.net (Sam & Donna Fink) (Has some reference texts, county lookups, and can also try on weekends to find information in local records and library) Edgefield County KarenCB31@aol.com (Karen) State Newspaper of SC obituaries 1895 to present - MUST provide full name and date of death: contact Carolsspot@aol.com (Carolyn) SOUTH DAKOTA Lincoln County bwoolsey@heartlandtel.com (Beverly) Union County bwoolsey@heartlandtel.com (Beverly) TENNESSEE Anderson County psamuels@conc.tds.net or phyllis57@juno.com   (Phyllis) Davidson County Jluna93420@aol.com Fayette County colleen@memphisonline.com (Colleen) Hardeman County colleen@memphisonline.com (Colleen) Knoxville Druid2720@aol.com Nashville Jluna93420@aol.com (Joyce) Roane County phyllis57@juno.com (Phyllis Samuelson) Tipton County colleen@memphisonline.com (Colleen) TEXAS Angelina County ahn@texramp.net (Anna) Bexar County BKAYMEL@aol.com Calhoun County rmaywald@viptx.net (Lonni) Cass County CHAMBERSII@aol.com (Myra) Coryell County JLHolocker@aol.com DeWitt County rmaywald@viptx.net (Lonni) Ellis County WFEAS@aol.com Greg County CHAMBERSII@aol.com (Myra) Harrison County CHAMBERSII@aol.com (Myra) Hill County rcbess@aol.com (Roy) Jack County Born2Tx@aol.com (Kevin) [lookups in Jack County History Book and Roberts Prairie Cemetary located in Ft. Worth] Kleberg County jjarnold@intcomm.net (Judy) Liberty County gcats@GTE.net (Charlotte) Marion County CHAMBERSII@aol.com (Myra) McLennan County rcbess@aol.com (Roy) Navarro County WFEAS@aol.com Nueces County jjarnold@intcomm.net (Judy) [NOTE: ONLY OCCASIONALLY GET TO NUECES - DON'T BE IN A HURRY!!!] Terrell County Texzilla2@aol.com [ BOOK LOOKUPS IN TERRELL COUNTY, TEXAS, ITS PAST, ITS PEOPLE (1975) and HISTORY OF TERRELL COUNTY (1949)]. Tom Green County Taustin253@aol.com Upshur County CHAMBERSII@aol.com (Myra) Victoria County rmaywald@viptx.net (Lonni) Williamson County abc@texas.net (Linda) UTAH Salt Lake County MrsCoating@aol.com (Lisa) VIRGINIA Campbell County PHAR30@aol.com (Phyllis)   [NOTE: CAN ALSO DO LOOKUPS AT JONES MEMORIAL LIBRARY IN LYNCHBURG] Hanover County Kathychapm@aol.com Henrico County Kathychapm@aol.com WASHINGTON Chelan County Jessilyn1@aol.com Clark County KntryCrazy@aol.com Cowlitz County superdave@tdn.com (Becky) Douglas County Jessilyn1@aol.com Grant County Jessilyn1@aol.com King County Freiburn@aol.com   (Carol) Kitsap County squid@exec.tscnet.com (Melinda) Stevens County rmjones@plix.com (Ruth) {can do Spokane Co in a pinch] Thurston County G.C.Crocker@worldnet.att.net WISCONSIN Burnett County Jensen1952@aol.com   (Donna) Douglas County PATOMN@aol.com Polk County Jensen1952@aol.com Rock County DEFAREL@aol.com Winnebago County cilla@execpc.com (Cilla) WYOMING Converse County domouse@coffey.com (Gordon) Sweetwater County doris219@fiw.net      (Doris Haskell)

The files (mailboxes) you are looking for and want to move or copy are hidden away but not hard to find if you follow these steps: Go to Windows Explorer then double-click your way through these folders: Windows Application Data Microsoft Outlook Express Mail Instead of being named, the files are numbered. What I do is highlight everything in the Mail folder and then copy them to a folder on my Zip Disk called Mail. If I need to copy them back, I highlight everything in the Zip Mail folder and move or copy them back. There are two files for each mailbox: .idx and .mbx. If I go to windows Explorer and work my way down to Mail where the numbered files are, I can double-click on the .mbx files and they will come up into WordPerfect for Windows where I can see what is in them and determine which file is which. Write them down to keep track ot them. For instance, I know that Folder6.mbx is my "To Do" folder which I created. Maybe there is an easier way but this works for me. Patsy pkishler@greenapple.com

I'm no expert, but on my PC (IE 4.4 w/Outlook Express) this is where the mail is located: C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\Default User\Mail\"many individual mail folders". This sub, sub, sub, sub-directory can be saved to a Zip Drive (I do it all the time) as a backup. It can be transferred back if necessary. I've never tried to use OE to directly access the Zip Drive version -- only keep it as a backup and would transfer back if I needed to. Hope this helps! Mike -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Cattles Cottrell <cotrell@gte.net> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 06 June 1998 17:48 Subject: Re: computor question >Do I ever want to hear the answer to this one!!! You are not alone, Marcia, >nor stupid. I have created other folders besides inbox, sent, etc. and it >lets you put messages there to save them, but then how do you find them to >copy them to another drive? The problem is Windows 95. If this was DOS or >Windows 3.1, we could find them. I know you can open them one at a time and >save, but how about other ways? > >SO, will one of the Windows 95 experts please tell us the answer? > >Ruth > > >>can someone help me just a little here....I have Internet explorer 4.4 >>outlook express for my mail....all my files are full, and I am getting >ready >>to help moderate a list...more on that later...however, I want to move my >>mail to my zip drive., I cannot find what files to move, I explore, and for >>some reason,, I am not able to tell my mail files names, I really am NOT >>stupid, just confused here >> would appreciated a short shove in the right directions. >>thanks >>marcia >> >>______________________________ > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >To contact the GenTips list owner, use converse@alltel.net > > > > >

Hey ya'll... I've just gotten back from the show and I have several of these books in stock. If you want one that I have, let me know. I'll give anyone on any of my lists a 20% discount. 10% off is our current special and I'll add an additional discount of 10% for you guys. You can either check out our web page or email me to see if we still have it in stock. If you have any questions, just shout! >Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:19:36 -0700 (PDT) >Old-To: tinamarie7@juno.com, proresearchers-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: top ten books >X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 >From: tinamarie7@juno.com (Tina M Gibson) >Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 20:17:39 EDT >To: ProResearchers-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-From: ProResearchers-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <ProResearchers-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/107 >X-Loop: ProResearchers-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-Sender: ProResearchers-L-request@rootsweb.com > >Here is an article I just got in a genealogical e-zine.  I don't have the >internet at home, so I don't get to see them on a regular basis, but >thought this could be of some help.  I don't know if everyone regularly >sees the articles from Mr. Morgan  or not.  Tina   tinamarie7@juno.com > > >ALONG THOSE LINES . . . By George G. Morgan > >Favorite Genealogy Books > >I am often asked about my favorite genealogy books.  When I teach >seminars, people invariably approach and ask me to name "the best >book."  A number of the readers of this column also send E-mail >asking for recommendations. Invariably, my response to these >questions is, "It really depends on the area you're >researching."  It really is a matter of personal choice and what >your budget can allow. > >However, "Along Those Lines ...", I'd like to share a list of my >own ten favorite genealogy reference books and tell you a little >bit about why I enjoy using them. Your list, of course, will >differ and you may disagree with some of my choices. >Nevertheless, it is a personal choice. > >The List > >At the top of my list is The Source: A Guidebook of American >Genealogy, edited by Loretto Dennis Szucs and Sandra Hargreaves >Luebking.  This revised edition was published in 1997 by >Ancestry, Inc.  There are clearly written chapters on all aspects >of genealogical research in the U.S.  The beginning genealogist >can learn the basics; the experienced genealogist will find new >references and resources.  It is no wonder that I see a copy of >this book at the reference desk of every library with a >genealogical collection.  It is a wonderful handbook! > >Another excellent reference that I use is Helen F. M. Leary's >North Carolina Research: Genealogy and Local History.  While the >book focuses on North Carolina, Ms. Leary (as editor) and her >fellow writers have written masterful chapters about essential >research strategies, as well as methodologies for locating and >evaluating a comprehensive variety of records at the local, state >and national levels.  Published by the North Carolina >Genealogical Society in Raleigh, NC, in 1996, this is a book I >refer to again and again. > >Ancestry's Red Book: American State, County & Town Sources, >edited by Alice Eichholz, can frequently be found open on my >desk.  Each state is represented with an historical summary of >its establishment and its settlers, followed by detailed >information about every possible record type imaginable.  I >frequently refer to the county resource information, especially >addresses of courthouses, when I am writing for copies of vital >records.  However, I use this book as a complementary companion >to The Source. > >The essential reference work, if you want to learn how to find >and use land records, is E. Wade Howe's Land & Property Research >in the United States. Published in 1997 by Ancestry, Inc., this >book has helped me locate a great many land resources and >documents.  And since land records are one of the most plentiful >genealogical resources -- and some of the least understood and >most overlooked -- a good educational reference book is >essential.  This book is the best I've seen. > >The Rand McNally Road Atlas is always close at hand.  I use it to >locate towns within states and their current county.  An >inexpensive reference, it doubles as a genealogy resource and a >travel aid when I'm on the road. > >Once I locate a town in the Rand McNally, I can then trace it >back to the county it was in previous decades by using the Map >Guide to the U.S. Federal Censuses 1790-1920.  Authors William >Thorndale and William Dollarhide compiled this wonderful >collection of maps for every state -- one map for each of the >censuses for each existing state at the time.  The map shows both >the counties as they existed then and the counties as they exist >today.  Not only do I use this for census research, I use it for >determining what county to look in for any kind of vital record >at the time.  Published by Genealogical Publishing Company in >Baltimore, it is available in paperback.  > >I do have some ancestors who fought in the Civil War.  One >helpful book for me is a small volume by Bertram Hawthorne Groene >titled Tracing Your Civil War Ancestor.  Published by John F. >Blair in Winston-Salem, NC, in 1995, it provides a deep insight >into the kinds of records available and where you can find them. >Mr. Groene reveals the intricacies of how to obtain all the >military records held by the National Archives on your ancestor, >not just the service record or the pension file.  There are other >records there as well! > >Ann S. Lainhart's State Census Records must really be good!  I >inadvertantly bought a second copy.  It's important to look in >all the census records, both Federal and state, to locate your >ancestors.  And Ms. Lainhart's book reveals details about the >content of every state census and where to find copies of the >records.  I'm working my way down that line of inquiry now, >searching for my great-grandmother and her family. > >Another new book from 1997 that I feel is a winner, especially >for beginning genealogists, is Sharon DeBartolo Carmack's The >Genealogy Sourcebook.  Ms Carmack has covered the basics from A >to Z expertly.  It's the best book of its kind on the market >today. > >Last, but certainly not least, is a book I just acquired.  It is >Published Sources: A Guide to Published Genealogical Records, >edited by Kory L. Meyerink.  Just published this month by >Ancestry, Inc., it is an awesome book! I have to tell you I am >only just beginning to make my way through this book, but already >I can say that it is the most important new genealogy reference >book of the year.  It is chock full of details on published >materials of all types, from the familiar to the obscure.  This >book is sure to become  another indispensable reference for the >genealogy librarian.  And who can argue with a librarian! > >Summary > >Well, there you have it -- my top ten list. Please don't write to >tell me what I missed.  I know my list is incomplete.  We have a >couple of hundred genealogy books at home.  Some are great, some >are good, some are mediocre -- and there are some we bought  just >because of a single reference to a single name.  What can I say? > >Your collection will be a unique one too.  Remember, you don't >have to buy everything.  Just build a core collection of what >works for you. > >Happy hunting!                            >George > >************************* >Copyright 1998 George G. Morgan All Rights reserved       >"Along Those Lines ..." is a weekly feature of the Genealogy >Forum on America Online (Keyword: ROOTS).  This column was >originally published in the Genealogy Forum on America Online. >You may send E-mail to: alonglines@aol.com  >George Morgan would like to hear from you but, because of the >volume of E-mail, is unable to respond to each letter >individually. He also regrets that he cannot assist you with your >personal genealogical research. > Tracey Converse Genealogy Records Service The Internet's One Stop Shop for Quality Genealogy Products <http://www.genrecords.com/>http://www.genrecords.com Stop by and download our FREE genealogy forms online!!! **************************************************************************** **** Listowner of GenTips, GenChat, GenSwap, ISBELL, BROOME, COBB, CONVERSE, DAWSON, ISBELL, MAYFIELD, McCLAIN, NESBIT, RABURN, RYE **************************************************************************** ****

So sorry guys, my apologies first. I know this was answered but somehow I have managed to misplace the info. I have found several files at Ancestory.com and I believe they are mine so I downloaded the files. How do I open them? I know it was answered but could anyone who has this or can answer please reply directly to me so as not to repeat this on the list. Appreciate All your Help, Debbie dfsumner@crosstel.net

In a message dated 98-06-06 19:53:53 EDT, dfsumner@crosstel.net writes: << I have found several files at Ancestory.com and I believe they are mine so I downloaded the files. How do I open them >> Please answer to the list so I can get the answer too,...or E-mail me. Thanks. Leah F. Baker leahfbaker@aol.com

Hi Ruth. I am at no means an expert but here is one suggestion. If I understand this thread right, it is asking about saving mail to free up space. On that basis, instead of saving your e-mail to a folder, you could click on file and then click on "SAVE AS" and save it to a diskette. You could use a few different diskettes and label them such as you would name a folder. The diskettes, in turn, would then be your "folders". I use Win95 and sometimes I do the same thing with stuff that is e-mailed to me. George gebasden@worldnet.att.net http://www.basden.com ---------- > From: Ruth Cattles Cottrell <cotrell@gte.net> > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: computor question > Date: Saturday, June 06, 1998 5:47 PM > > Do I ever want to hear the answer to this one!!! You are not alone, Marcia, > nor stupid. I have created other folders besides inbox, sent, etc. and it > lets you put messages there to save them, but then how do you find them to > copy them to another drive? The problem is Windows 95. If this was DOS or > Windows 3.1, we could find them. I know you can open them one at a time and > save, but how about other ways? > > SO, will one of the Windows 95 experts please tell us the answer? > > Ruth > > > >can someone help me just a little here....I have Internet explorer 4.4 > >outlook express for my mail....all my files are full, and I am getting > ready > >to help moderate a list...more on that later...however, I want to move my > >mail to my zip drive., I cannot find what files to move, I explore, and for > >some reason,, I am not able to tell my mail files names, I really am NOT > >stupid, just confused here > > would appreciated a short shove in the right directions. > >thanks > >marcia > > > >______________________________ > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > To contact the GenTips list owner, use converse@alltel.net > > >

Do I ever want to hear the answer to this one!!! You are not alone, Marcia, nor stupid. I have created other folders besides inbox, sent, etc. and it lets you put messages there to save them, but then how do you find them to copy them to another drive? The problem is Windows 95. If this was DOS or Windows 3.1, we could find them. I know you can open them one at a time and save, but how about other ways? SO, will one of the Windows 95 experts please tell us the answer? Ruth >can someone help me just a little here....I have Internet explorer 4.4 >outlook express for my mail....all my files are full, and I am getting ready >to help moderate a list...more on that later...however, I want to move my >mail to my zip drive., I cannot find what files to move, I explore, and for >some reason,, I am not able to tell my mail files names, I really am NOT >stupid, just confused here > would appreciated a short shove in the right directions. >thanks >marcia > >______________________________

Has anyone purchased the Census or Marriage superbundle CD's from Broderbund? Did you consider them easy to use and/or worthwhile? Am trying to determine if they are a worthwhile investment. Also, is there anyone who has these CD's that might be interested in selling them? Thanks, Lynn Cupp lcupp@erols.com