I found my g-gndfather's name on an index for death's in Memphis TN. The index listed the name, date of death as 2/7/1918, age 73, and in the next column was Y, 1m, 2d Does this mean he died at the age of 73 years old, and one month and two days? Has anyone else seen this? (If this is the case, it means I've found his birthday as well -- ya-hoo!) Thanks, Roi

Hi everyone, I just found out my gggrandma's maiden name was Hagerman. Does anyone know what nationality that would be? is it German, Dutch or Irish? Thanks for the help! Best wishes... Dianne

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There are several ways of doing it, some of which I learned from a Creative Memories consultant. You might check to see if there is one in your area. They have lots of good ideas and supplies to use, though I've never purchased one of their albums because of the expense. What I do is get plain paper (make certain it is acid-free; you might have to ask around to get this), then use photo-stickies (not sure what their called but they're little pieces of adhesive) to stick them on the paper. Then I put the pages in top-loading sheet protectors and organize them in a 3 ring binder. You can get very creative cropping the pictures into different shapes and using stickers (make sure their acid-free) to dress up your album. Be sure to write names, dates, etc. on the back of each picture as well as on the page, just in case the picture and the page get separated later on. In general, look for supplies that say _Archival Quality_ and stay away from magnetic photo albums and you should be fine. Have fun! Alice KFDeines@aol.com wrote: > I didn't realize that sticky pages were not a good way to store. How is the > best way? I'm getting ready to put together four albums for each child. Thanks > for your help. Pete > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: > http://www.rootsweb.com -- Ladybug Links: Books, Music, Homeschool, Genealogy and Fun! http://www.accces.com/~wng/index.htm *Do not forget little kindnesses, and do not remember little faults.*

Hello Pamela, Have you ever tried scanning a microfische or a print of a microfische? This could save a huge amount of time and effort in genealogical research if it is possible. Cheers Joe de la Poer Power Pamela Wagoner wrote: > We have OCR scanning or optical character recognition software at work. Since > we have Macintoshes in our dept. the program we use is Omnipage Pro. When you > scan a document through the OCR program the text is picked out and is recognized > as letters or characters. Sometimes the computer gets a little confused about > some letters such m's or n's, but its pretty good. A whole lot easier than > typing! > > Pam > Oregon > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Are you having trouble unsubscribing to the list? You can subscribe and unsubscribe to the lists we own from our web page at: > http://www.genrecords.com

Karen, You wrote about DNA and genealogy. There have been several articles in the Richmond Times-Dispatch about the dna testing planned for descendants of Thomas Jefferson's uncle (Field Jefferson), Sally Hemings' children, Carr family (T. Jefferson's nephews), and old VA families for a control group. The last article was Sun. June 7, '98. They are trying to see if the rumor about Jefferson and Hemings was true. She was a slave at Monticello and had several light skinned children. Of course, if they have the same DNA strains, etc., the Hemings' children could have been fathered by one of T. Jefferson's nephews or other family members. They are using the Y chromosonal DNA which is passed on virtually unchanged from father to son. DNA analysis is being done by experts at Oxford and results will be published in a journal in 6 to 12 months. Even if a genetic match is made, it will not prove that it was Thomas Jefferson, only that it was a member of the Jefferson family. Interesting. I'm not trying to start any controversy on the list but it is in the news and is genealogy related. Edith

We have OCR scanning or optical character recognition software at work. Since we have Macintoshes in our dept. the program we use is Omnipage Pro. When you scan a document through the OCR program the text is picked out and is recognized as letters or characters. Sometimes the computer gets a little confused about some letters such m's or n's, but its pretty good. A whole lot easier than typing! Pam Oregon

We have used a hair dryer with much success. Just warm the photo and gently peal from the page. Do not roll or curl as photo can crack, just slide another page, paper, finger under the edge. Marcia Buescher

Thank you for all the suggestions to cut and paste from a digest format. I received many different suggestions. The one repeated most was to cut and paste and mail to myself. This worked. The other suggestions I haven't tried yet but I will to see which I like most. Others suggested • I cut and paste to a document and then edit. • I use clip mate (but this was not for a Mac I have a Mac) • copy and Paste instead of cut and paste( think I tried that with no success) and variations of above • and some send me the means to just cut and paste. Again, thanks

(Me and my tapes!!) This is a very interesting subject to me, and there are a few tapes out from Repeat Performance (made at big genealogy conventions by experts on the subject) on the subject of genetics, DNA and genealogy. One of the very most interesting topics is that of research being done on maternal line ancestry. It involves mitochondrial DNA (not the nuclear DNA)--the little bits that float within the cell. Theory: This DNA does not change or alter in sexual reproduction like the DNA in a cell nucleus does (half mom/half dad). While there is always a possibility of occasional mutation in it, nevertheless, it remains generally the same through the maternal line, because the mitochondrial DNA all comes from the mother, as I understand it. (Men would have the same MTC DNA as their mothers, maternal grandmothers, gr grandmothers, etc. but would not pass it on to their children.) These researchers believe that if you have two people descended from the same great-great-great-great grandmother or further back, [descended through a maternal line only], their MTC DNA should match. If it doesn't, there is either an error in tracing the line, or remote possibility, a mutation. Evidently there is a pronounced difference between unrelated people. Whether or not they're taking registrants to participate in their research or not, I don't know. I thought it to be quite interesting however. Karen

Hi, I must have missed this first post re:fische and OCR, do you still have it? I have a question on Can I scan a document, use an OCR and the be able to sort it on a page? -----Original Message----- From: joe.power <joe.power@which.net> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 8:35 PM Subject: Re: microfische >Its funny you should mention this because there has been a discussion about the use of scanner technology in conjunction with Optical Character Recognition software to do >exactly this. We haven't worked it out yet but it would really be something if it could work. > >Joe de la Poer Power > >corbet@ix.netcom.com wrote: > >> Hi there. I was just wondering if there was an easy way to transfer data from microfische to bytes on the computer? Any sugesstions gratefully entertained. Thanx, Corbet >> >> ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >> Are you having trouble unsubscribing to the list? You can subscribe and unsubscribe to the lists we own from our web page at: >> http://www.genrecords.com > > > > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >Are you having trouble unsubscribing to the list? You can subscribe and unsubscribe to the lists we own from our web page at: >http://www.genrecords.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi, You could ask your local library to interlibrary loan it if you just want to read it. You could check out used bookstores online if you want to buy it. There are lots of library catalogs and used bookstores online besides these two. Good luck. Bibliofind http://www.bibliofind.com Broadview books http://broadviewbooks.com/ Edith You wrote <My grandfather, Julian Albert Crane, had a copyright on a book of poems that he composed....."The Hoozier Poet" by Bert Crane.  The book was copyrighted in 1917 and he was probably living in Ada, Oklahoma, at the time. Does anyone have any idea how I might be able to find a copy of this book? Jane>

Hi, many years ago, we had a house fire that caused terrible damage to photo albums and photos in frames. The fire inspector for the insurance company told to to microwave the photo's that were stuck together...it worked.! just a very little at a time, DON'T COOK them. I would try that with yours...just use caution. I have also IRONED some with not bad results when they were crackled and wrinked. use a sloth over top of the photo. hope this helps you Marcia -----Original Message----- From: GAndr1212@aol.com <GAndr1212@aol.com> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 8:04 PM Subject: UNsticking Pictures >I Aunt had stuck her pictures in a paper album. Some pictures are stuck real >good. They are old, so I need to be save. Does any one know a way to get >them off. > >Thanks >Gail > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: >unsubscribe >To: >GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

A real tedious way, but it works, is to take a hair dryer on its lowest setting and carefully working from the edges inward, a little bit at a time, warm the photo's edge and lift. It will work BUT it takes time. I know I had to do hundreds of my mother's but I now have them in an archival situation (I get all of my materials from LIGHT IMPRESSIONS - 1-800- 628-6216 and now I don't worry about them. )The albums are also all ready to "grab" if I have to vacate in one of our storms Arene -----Original Message----- From: Perkalong@aol.com <Perkalong@aol.com> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, June 10, 1998 11:03 AM Subject: Re: UNsticking Pictures > > <I Aunt had stuck her pictures in a paper album. Some pictures are stuck >real >good. They are old, so I need to be save. Does any one know a way to get >them off.> > >I'm sure you will receive suggestions on how to remove these pictures, but >before you try, Please take your paper album to Kinko's or some other coping >business and make copies of the pages, or even scan your pages into your >computer. Just in case your removal methods are not successful. These >pictures are too valuable to take a chance with. > >Perkalong > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >Don't forget to stop by our business web page for FREE genealogy forms and charts! We are adding more all the time!!!! >http://www.genrecords.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

OmahaMom@aol.com wrote: > > Desperate situations often call for desperate answers. > > Try steaming up the bathroom & leaving a couple of pages in there to absorb > some of the moisture...without getting the paper or pictures really damp > themselves. This might loosen some of them without a lot of damage. If it > works with a couple of them, you can try more of the book. > > Karen > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! How about having copies made of the photo, or scanning the photo into the computer with a scanner. This way you wouldn't have any damage to the photo.. Ed Brown

There are archival quality plastic pages to put precious documents & photographs in for storage. They cost more than what you might pay for some of the others, but they're acid free, hence longer lasting. Sometimes places like office supply stores will carry the archival quality materials, AGLL/Heritage Quest does, there are other places. Some that don't regularly carry it, will order it for you. Karen

As with other searches, the greatest success is usually found in researching the smallest unit. In Italy, if you know the region or town, you are more likely to be able to find the Catholic church. It is far more likely to have a record of who served there (or who may be buried in the local churchyard) than the central agencies of the Vatican would. That is true of the USA as well. I have also found help by consulting the information centers run by foreign governments in large cities in the USA. They have a wealth of information geared to tourism which may well include maps and other information about specific areas. Their job is to encourage you to visit, and I find most of these agencies pleasant to deal with. They are listed in phone books of metropolitan areas like New York. In the USA, there are national and local registers of parishes and priests. Your local church should have copies. Also, when a parish celebrates a major anniversary--fifty or one hundred years--they are quite likely to publish a commemorative booklet that will usually include a list of priests who served during the period. Consult your local church for information on parishes in the area you are researching. Happy hunting. Grace

Thanks Marcia for this tip .. I will try this! I have a photo album I put together years and years ago .. the album is the sticky page type. I wasn't aware then that this was the absolute worst way to store and preserve photos. I am now hopeful that I will be able to "save" these photos. Nancy Pitters ndpitters@prodigy.net -----Original Message----- From: marcia collins <mcollins@sfths.sft434.k12.ks.us> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, June 10, 1998 10:26 AM Subject: Re: UNsticking Pictures >Hi, many years ago, we had a house fire that caused terrible damage to photo >albums and photos in frames. >The fire inspector for the insurance company told to to microwave the >photo's that were stuck together...it worked.! just a very little at a time, >DON'T COOK them. > >I would try that with yours...just use caution. >I have also IRONED some with not bad results when they were crackled and >wrinked. use a sloth over top of the photo. >hope this helps you >Marcia > >-----Original Message----- >From: GAndr1212@aol.com <GAndr1212@aol.com> >To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 8:04 PM >Subject: UNsticking Pictures > > >>I Aunt had stuck her pictures in a paper album. Some pictures are stuck >real >>good. They are old, so I need to be save. Does any one know a way to get >>them off. >> >>Thanks >>Gail >> >> >>==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >>If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: >>unsubscribe >>To: >>GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >>DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: >http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > >

Hello Marcia, The idea is that you scan a document and then use an OCR program to recognise the letters in the PICTURE of the document. The OCR program then stores the TEXT as a file that you can word process put into a database, spreadsheet or whatever you'd normally do with some text. The catch is of course that none of the OCR programs get it 100% correct so you have to check it all. With regard to fische my idea was to scan a fische (e.g. St. Catherine's Index) at very high resolution 1200dpi or better and then run it through an OCR program to get data files. The next step would be to get lots of people to do the same and publish the text on their websites in a Webring. It wouldn't take too long before the whole thing was out there in cyberspace waiting to be looked at by people like us. This would remove the need to travel to the locations of the fische and also the whole Index would be searchable by computer! A by-product is that automatic indexing of census results should be achievable. Whilst this sounds very good there appear to be problems. The OCR I've tried on photocopies of a Census from fische was not too successful and the magnification of the scanner may not be enough. I'm still thinking about it though. Anyway the World Cup is about to start! Cheers Joe de la Poer Power marcia collins wrote: > Hi, I must have missed this first post re:fische and OCR, do you still have > it? I have a question on Can I scan a document, use an OCR and the be able > to sort it on a page? > > -----Original Message----- > From: joe.power <joe.power@which.net> > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 8:35 PM > Subject: Re: microfische > > >Its funny you should mention this because there has been a discussion about > the use of scanner technology in conjunction with Optical Character > Recognition software to do > >exactly this. We haven't worked it out yet but it would really be > something if it could work. > > > >Joe de la Poer Power > > > >corbet@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > >> Hi there. I was just wondering if there was an easy way to transfer data > from microfische to bytes on the computer? Any sugesstions gratefully > entertained. Thanx, Corbet > >> > >> ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > >> Are you having trouble unsubscribing to the list? You can subscribe and > unsubscribe to the lists we own from our web page at: > >> http://www.genrecords.com > > > > > > > > > > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > >Are you having trouble unsubscribing to the list? You can subscribe and > unsubscribe to the lists we own from our web page at: > >http://www.genrecords.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

My grandfather, Julian Albert Crane, had a copyright on a book of poems that he composed....."The Hoozier Poet" by Bert Crane.  The book was copyrighted in 1917 and he was probably living in Ada, Oklahoma, at the time. Does anyone have any idea how I might be able to find a copy of this book? Jane