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Linda, I'm a "user" not a "researcher" -- if you were interested in the researcher I used, the site is at http://www.inconnect.com/~gjnixon It gives information concerning prices, etc. at the site. Elaine Linda wrote: > How do you advertise and get clients? > Linda > Ft. Worth, TX > hill@ctelcom.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Elaine Maddox <elainetm@worldnet.att.net> > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, June 11, 1998 11:44 AM > Subject: Re: Has anyone used this census researcher? > > >Interestingly, I've never had a researcher ask for money in advance. And, > they > >have limited themselves to $50 increments in research, not moving on until > paid. > >I think it's a good method for the provider and the user of the > information. > > > >OmahaMom@aol.com wrote: > > > >> For what it's worth, there are two sides to the story. I have a friend > who > >> does census & other lookups for people for a modest fee. He got stiffed > close > >> to $80 by a person that requested the lookups, then refused to pay him. > Now, > >> especially if it is a sizeable order, he insists on payment in advance. > So, > >> use one's own discretion. I've got copies myself waiting to go to > people, > >> soon as I get their check in the mail. (Even then, who knows, the check > might > >> bounce.) > >> > >> Karen > > > > > > > > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > >To contact the GenTips list owner, use converse@alltel.net > > > > > >

Hi ya'll... I've had so many requests for Ron's address, I thought I'd post it...so, here it is! Suderwick@aol.com Tracey Converse Genealogy Records Service The Internet's One Stop Shop for Quality Genealogy Products <http://www.genrecords.com/>http://www.genrecords.com Stop by and download our FREE genealogy forms online!!! **************************************************************************** **** Listowner of GenTips, GenChat, GenSwap, ISBELL, BROOME, COBB, CONVERSE, DAWSON, ISBELL, MAYFIELD, McCLAIN, NESBIT, RABURN, RYE **************************************************************************** ****

ANYONE HAVE ANY HELP IN THIS AREA, LATE 1800'S ?? DICK ANTHONY, FLORIDA

Dear gang:    You won't believe what happened to me!  I found a ton of people that are related to my GUICE line that are from MS and LA.  I live in LA and decided to get more current information, as this side I had not done alot of investigation on as a relative had information from 1718- 1850's but nothing recent in LA.  I go to the library and pull the soundex microfiche for 1920 LA census.  Guess what!  NO GUICES?  WHAT???  So I pull the 1910...the same thing.  I pull 1900.....there they are...about 50 of them...so what happened in 1910 and 1920?  Here is what happened...they changed the soundex number! If you read how to figure out your soundex number you don't count the vowels ....so my letters are G and C and (both being the number 2) and add a "0" at the end to make the 3 numbers.  Well, in 1910 and 1920 they used 2 for the "G" and zeroes for the first two vowels.  That is how I found them.      So folks, if your family name has a couple of vowels together and you aren't finding them with the soundex # you are used to ......try it the other way.  God, I love playing detective!!!!  LOL Lisa

Hi to all, Does anyone know the history or founder of Counselor, NM ? It is located on Hwy 44 about 60 miles NNW of Albuquerque. Searching for Conselars and variant names. Chuck Counceller 5 inches of rain today and 8 tornadoes on the ground in Indiana this evening, and not over yet!

Could someone tell me know to unzip pedigree files on FTM 4.4 Thanks in advance. Donna

Is there a policing board for those that advertise services on the web, and don't deliver? Karen

Someone recently asked how useful were the Family Tree Maker CDs. I found a website for Automated Research, apparently a sub company of FTM. They list detail on what counties and number of records, in some cases, that are included on the various CDs. I didn't remember seeing that information in that detail before. So before you buy or ask someone to do a look-up, you can see what is included on those CDs at this site: http://www.aricds.com/products.html Hope this helps someone Barb Thomas bthomas@wport.com

Seems like I read recently on this list that someone found the age of an ancestor from a stone and it was written in year, months and days old. Found this information today on a research page. Hope it helps someone. Barb Thomas bthomas@wport.com Association of Gravestone Studies http://www.berkshire.net/ags/ To ascertain a birth date from a tombstone: e.g. (d. May 6, 1889, aged 71 years, 7 months, 9 days) Use the 8870 system:Write date as 18890506(for died 1889, 05th month, 06th day)& subtract 710709 (for 71 years, 07 months, 09 days) 18890506 - 710709 = 18189797 - 8870 = 18170927 Answer: means born 1817, 09th month, 27th day

Hi Jackie: may we agree to disagree<g> Creative Memories does offer good products as you say as does Light Impressions. The main difference is that CM "specializes" toward the genealogy side while LI leans towards the photography side whether that be free lance photogs as myself or the person who just likes to take pictures. Therefore LI prices have a tendancy to be lower than those of CM. Just my opinion. Both companies offer excellent prices, but as in all things, shop around. George gebasden@worldnet.att.net http://www.basden.com ---------- > From: Lee & Jackie Reed <reeds@bellatlantic.net> > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Photo storage > Date: Wednesday, June 10, 1998 7:16 PM > > Being a Creative Memories consultant, I'm biased, but here's my opinion. > > Find a CM consultant in your area! The albums are the absolute best! > I've been a CM consultant since 1990, and I would use nothing else for > my photos. > > The album pages are nice and thick, acid-free, lignin-free, and > buffered (even if you put an acidic postcard on the page, the paper > won't soak up the acid and change the composition of the paper page). > The binding of the album is patented and is the absolute best. Unlike a > 3-ring binder that will tear the pages and eventually get "sprung" so > that the rings don't match up anymore, the flex-hinge binding from CM > stays together. > > You should be able to find a CM consultant in your local telephone > book. If not, check out the website. If you're in CA or in the > mid-Atlantic states, I know of a ton of consultants who would love to > talk to you and any other genealogist who knows the importance of > "archival" materials! > > :) > Jackie > researching REED, YINGLING, CUSHING, DELL, MORRIS, LAY, BALDWIN, > JOSENHANS, SAGLE > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! > > > > > > > > >

WAY TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!! You sound like a good honest man. Keep up the good work. Boesveld@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 98-06-11 11:25:12 EDT, you write: > > I do census and other genealogical research, although not under this > screenname, and I never ask for money in advance. My rule of thumb is to > check first to see if I can even access information that will be of help > first, and then work out with the client a time line and payment amount, with > frequent updates to let them know how their money is being spent. > I have been doing it online now for 3 years, and have NEVER had a problem with > a client regarding being paid. Maybe I've been lucky, but my relationships > with my clients have all been, without exception, good ones. > I, for one, do not think that anyone should ever pay in advance, unless you > have already established a working relationship with a researcher, or have > good references from people or organizations you trust. > That's my two cents > Ron Baumhover > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: > http://www.rootsweb.com

Pat: well said. I also offer photography services for genealogy but I do not expect payment until AFTER the work is done. George gebasden@worldnet.att.net http://www.basden.com ---------- > From: John & Pat Fleming <peejay.creative@virgin.net> > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Has anyone used this census researcher? > Date: Thursday, June 11, 1998 7:05 AM > > Kromeo@aol.com wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I don't know if I got 'taken' or not. On May 22, I snail mailed a census > > lookup request with $28 to Barry Collett and email'd the same request. > > http://members.aol.com/censuscopy/census.html > > On the snail mail, I asked him to email me when received. Nothing yet! > > Hi Karen, > This is just the kind of thing that gives us researchers a bad name! > I don't know anything about this man but anyone providing a service to > others should honour their pledges. > We have a small business doing research and photography for other family > historians worldwide. We don't have a fancy website. We don't charge > extortionate fees, we are told they are very reasonable. > What we do is offer a good service to those unable to do their own > research/photography. If we give a date for something to be done, it > will be done at that time or an explanation sent as to why it wasn't. > For research a report will usually be written and sent within 48 hours. > Photography is, admittedly, a little more haphazard as it depends a lot > on weather, and that is pretty unreliable in the UK. But even so we do > our best to complete assignments as quickly as possible. > We believe that our reputation depends on being reliable. > If you, or anyone else reading this, ever needs a researcher or > photographer in Wiltshire, Somerset, Bristol or Gloucestershire please > get in touch. We will be honoured to have your enquiry. > > Sincerely, > Pat F. in South Gloucestershire > Peejay Genealogy & Photographic Services "capturing ancestral locations" > Email: peejay.creative@virgin.net > > Researching WHITMARSH worldwide (GOONS member no.2928) > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to stop by our business web page for FREE genealogy forms and charts! We are adding more all the time!!!! > http://www.genrecords.com > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Barb: Light Impression carry archival materials for linens. Call Light Impressions at 1-800-828-6216 George gebasden@worldnet.att.net http://www.basden.com ---------- From: by way of Genealogy Records Service <info@genrecords.com> <TerryRules@aol.com> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: GenTips-D Digest V98 #424 Date: Thursday, June 11, 1998 2:39 AM While we're on the subject of preserving memories -- how do you preserve linen?  I have a piece of linen (supposedly) woven by my ggggrandfather in 1793 (France).  What is the best way to preserve it?  Suggestions appreciated. Barb. H., e-mail:  TerryRules@aol.com ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: unsubscribe To: GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! ----------

Lila. I used to have that problem. So here is a question for you, are you using Win 3.1 or Win 95? That makes a WORLD of a difference in the time it takes. Under Win 3.1 it took me about 3 hours but under Win95 it takes about 15 minutes, using the same speed modem. George gebasden@worldnet.att.net http://www.basden.com ---------- From: LMiller865@aol.com To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Broderbunds Family Tree Maker Date: Thursday, June 11, 1998 1:32 AM Is anyone familiar with the family tree maker and if so have you tried to submit a tree on line? My tree is about 900 names and so far it has taken 3 hours just to send 50% of it. Is this normal?? lila lmiller865@aol.com ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== Family Workings: http://www.familyworkings.com A site to help researchers break through those brickwalls.  Lots of links, subcatagorized, ancestor queries, tips, and cemetary research.  Looking for research donations of: Cemetaries, obits, volunteer researchers, and anything else that may be of interest to other researchers.  Submit links, ancestor queries and tips. Check it out ----------

I use Eudora Pro for my mail program. I am fairly new with computers so this question may be so basic it is embarrassing, but I want to know the answer. Some times under the column headed "V", little green trash can(?) figures appear with incoming mail. Does anyone know why they are there? What do they mean? This only happens on one of my e-mail addresses. Thanks, Nancy ncook/jps.net

Me too!!! I think Ron is wonderful! You can't beat the price or the quality! At 01:10 PM 6/11/98 , PTMCDAV309@aol.com wrote: >I want to take this opportunity to say what a great researcher I think Ron >Baumhover is!!!  He has done some work for me and is very diligent and keeps >you updated and charges modestly!!! > >I will certainly continue to use him!!!  Thank you Ron!!!!! > >Sincerely, >Marcia in Tn > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: >unsubscribe >To: >GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! > Tracey Converse Genealogy Records Service The Internet's One Stop Shop for Quality Genealogy Products <http://www.genrecords.com/>http://www.genrecords.com Stop by and download our FREE genealogy forms online!!! **************************************************************************** **** Listowner of GenTips, GenChat, GenSwap, ISBELL, BROOME, COBB, CONVERSE, DAWSON, ISBELL, MAYFIELD, McCLAIN, NESBIT, RABURN, RYE **************************************************************************** ****

I would like to add my two cents worth on this discussion about researchers. I would like to help those on either side of this discussion, having been on each side before. Just a little background... I have been a serious genealogist for over 15 years. I have been excepting clients for almost 10 years. I have been to many conferences, the most recent was the FGS conference in Dallas, TX. I have heard many lectures from very well known genealogists, such as Elizabeth Shown Mills, and many others. I am not a certified genealogist, however I have worked many years side by side a certified genealogist. I have successfully completed a course from the National Genealogical Society on American Genealogy. I have worked for companies specializing in probate court and locating missing heirs. As well as, tracing land records for clear titles, taxes, and many other areas. My opinion on this subject... Most all feel at one time or another that they were taken advantage of. Hiring a researcher is not like going to Walmart. Proceedures I have noticed when working with others... Some request pre payment, some do not, some prefer to have a check prior to the research and not cashed until complete. Time... Let's keep in mind that unless you are hiring a large group of genealogists that work together, that problems arise. When depending on one researcher, you don't know if something may have happened for them not to complete the work on time. There are many reasons that a researcher may be slower than you feel they should. Some of these could include: waiting on a reply from a society, courthouse or archives, illness or other personal problem, on vacation and don't have anyone to answer mail when they are gone, they are swamped with work, there are many reasons. All I feel are good reasons that should not reflect on a person's ability. I know myself at times I am so swamped with work, I could keep three people busy full time. Trust... This is something that requires time. The researcher has to feel that you are as helpful to them as they are to you. To assist researchers, send them a copy of all the research you have done. Don't surprise them. If you find someone who is not certified, send them only the amount of money you feel comfortable with. Perhaps for 1-2 hours at a time until you feel more comfortable. This does not always mean you won't ever feel taken advantage of. Many times the researcher has done the best they can and just have not provided you with a detailed list of research that was performed. I know myself if I am really having a problem in locating a family, I will spend extra time to try to find something that could help them. You never know when a copy of a list of information can come in handy down the road. On the other hand, you should at least know where not to look. One of the major problems I have found is that others feel that you should be able to locate parents,etc with the 1-2 hours they have paid for. With this amount of time the researcher can usually trace census records enough to get a good feel for your ancestors and those around them, but many times it will require more time to provide proof. This problem usually arises with families during the years from the Colonial Period to 1850. Perhaps you have a common surname as well. Patience is a key to success. How to protect yourself... I have never found a researcher I have never used before to perform the work for me and then ask for money. I would be hesitant of their abilities if this was the case. First, contact them to see if they are available to help you. Send them some information and a question about research ideas. If they do not include it, ask for information about their research abilities or ask when you first write. Follow up on references or ask for references. Ask if they know an approximate time frame. If you are still uncomfortable, hire a certified genealogist. Using a certified genealogist, you can complain to the Board of Certified Genealogists. Keep in touch with them and don't depend on email! In my experience it gets lost as easily as in the snail mail. You can even send a certified letter where they have to sign for it and you receive a card with their signiture. If all fails, call them. I am sorry if I have offended anyone, I hope that this will help. Respectfully, Jeannette Prouse

Hi, I just checked and the Richmond Times-Dispatch article on Sun. June 7, 1998 about the DNA testing involving descendants of Thomas Jefferson and other relatives and Sally Hemings is on line at Gateway VA. Go to this site and click on the DNA article. http://www.gateway-va.com/pages/day1news.htm Edith You wrote <Thank you. That is just the sort of information I was hoping for. This is the first I've heard of the "Y chromosomal DNA" technique. Well, it's early days. Eventually, someone will publish a decent discourse on this subject - maybe a reprint of the Richmond Times-Dispatch series.>