What if they died during the war, overseas??? Pattie -----Original Message----- From: KNARC1@aol.com [SMTP:KNARC1@aol.com] Sent: Monday, June 15, 1998 12:12 PM To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: WWII and Death Certificates Yes there were and most are recorded in the home state at the time of entry into the armed forces, If they died within the United States in a non combat status then the death cert. will be recorded in the state where the death occurred. Rich ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: http://www.rootsweb.com

Howdy all! I've accumulated a lot "stuff" since starting this genealogy excursion. All the data I've gathered has pretty much been verified and organized to a point that I think I can keep track of it. My next step was going to be obtaining courthouse records, something I've never attempted before. How 'bout all you veteran researchers out there filling me in on the best approach to this new record source. I could sure use the advice. -- Thanks, Barry Bunn ************************** Retail Merchandise Systems BBUNN1@JCPENNEY.COM (972) 431-8246 (972) 531-8246 FAX **************************

Someone sent me this. I regret that it included no author or source. But I thought it appropriate fun for this forum. Elizzabeth ******************************************************* I CLIMBED MY FAMILY TREE I climbed my family tree and found, it wasn't worth the climb. so I scrambles down convinced it was a waste of time. Some branches of my tree I found, were rotton to the core, And all the tree was full of sap, and hung with nuts galore, I used to brag of my kinfold, before I made the climb. But truth compels me not to tell, of those not worth a dime. And beg my friends who boast aloud, Of their ancestors great. To climb their family tree and learn of those who weren't so "straight". I learned what family trees are like, and I scrambled down. They are like at tater-vine, 'cause the best are underground.

Were there death certificates issued for persons dying in the war? This is an area I have not had to deal with, up til now. Thanks Pattie Schultz Researching Pahlke/Schwemm/Blum/Nordmeyer/Friedland/Schnetlage/Hardacre/Lyon(s) /Shuster/Dvorak/Willard/Carbary/Hoffman/Funk/Grever http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/1030 <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/1030>

Yes there were and most are recorded in the home state at the time of entry into the armed forces, If they died within the United States in a non combat status then the death cert. will be recorded in the state where the death occurred. Rich

The federal government has taken censuses every ten years since 1790, although no all of the ones taken are still in existance (some parts have been lost). The biggest loss was the 1890 census which suffered water damage after a fire. (There's 3 reels worth of miscellaneous stuff that survived, and a veteran's & widow's schedule from mid Kentucky on back in the alphabet...supposed to have been only Civil War Union Vets & widows, but others were also enumerated by zealous census takers...it's better than absolutely nothing.) The 1880 one you ran across on line was probably 1880...a transcription. I caution folks on transcriptions because even with careful transcribing, they can misspell, misidentify families, so if you can find your folks on it great--use it as a reference to the real thing to see if you can find out anything additional (sometimes you can learn a lot.), and if you can't, go look at the real thing. If they alphabetize the transcription, you lose their place in the community, and we are often advised to look ten to twenty families either side of our families, because in another ten to twenty years, many of them will also turn out to be related by marriage. You can also get a feel for the handwriting of the day, and sometimes recognize your ancestor's name when someone else transcribing it might think it looked like something else. (A marriage transcription put one of my ancestors as Conner when it should have been Comer...a much less common, nearly unknown name in many areas...easy to overlook when it happens that way.) Sometimes you may find that a relative was actually the one who wrote the census in question, and you have pages of his handwriting as a memento. What I am saying is that we need to remember that transcriptions are secondary sources of original records and we need to treat them as such. Great finding aids, and guides to the real records. Karen

Thank you all for your response to my query. It seems that all are in favor of it. It might take awhile, $$$, but I'll let you know what happens. In the meantime I might even try self-hypnosis. The problem with that is every time I relax I fall asleep!

Hi all., �I have something that I need clarified.� The Federal census was taken every ten� years since 1790?� It is only in public record until 1910? or 20?� Also , one year, I think 1890 is missing.� Am I right so far?� States and counties sometimes took their own census also.� If I found a census online that said say, Fairfield Co. Oh census for 1880, would it be safe to assume that it came from a federal census? I have found quite a few of these but they don't say whether it was a federal census or not and I am new at this.� How do I tell? LeaAnn

I can download from material calling for this in the letter..doctrine. If this command is missing, then what? But, once on the hard drive, I'm totally in the dark. How do you overcome this ..please walk me thru the process step by step. I can then make a hard copy of your instructions and uswe trhem for a few times...until I finally get it in my thick head Thanks for the help I know is oout there! I am operating with Windows 95 and Internet Explorer

I saw this item for sale at eBay and thought that you might be interested. Title of item: 1857 Domestic Bible Printed By Tiffany & Co. Seller: applings@aol.com Starts: 06/14/98 13:10:58 PDT Ends: 06/21/98 13:10:58 PDT Price: Starts at $99.95 To bid the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=17521822 Item Description: YES! A 1857 Antique Bible. It is approximately 9"X11"Inside it has a family history dating back to 1784! It is "The Illustrated Domestic Bible" by the Rev. Ingram Cobbin, MA. This is the Old & New Testaments according to "The Authorzied Version". Printed and Published in Case by Tiffany and Company. It is in good condition. It is worn, but no pages are missing. Buyer pays shipping and insurance. If for any reason you are not completely satisfied with your purchase, I will gladlyrefund your money (minus shipping).Thank you!Sharon Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading Community at http://www.ebay.com

I saw this item for sale at eBay and thought that you might be interested. Title of item: ** 1891 *LG HOLY BIBLE* MUST SEE * SIZE * Seller: rca7991@together.net Starts: 06/08/98 08:52:20 PDT Ends: 06/15/98 08:52:20 PDT Price: Currently $46.00 To bid the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=16788768 Item Description: this is a real nice bible, it is a large size great shape, would be good for a church , or just as a family bible,it does have some family history in it , the size is 4 1/2"thick and 12 1/2" long an 11 1/2" wide, all leather bound with gold trim and gold outter edge pages,it has the old an the new versions in Parallel Columns, and 2000 illustrations, buyer pays $ 10.00 towards shipping in the [usa] email me for more pictures or info., also has 2 latches to keep it closed, Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading Community at http://www.ebay.com

>Monday evening's meeting will cover Confederate Soldiers. Several of us have resources concerning them. i.e. List of soldiers buried at Elmira Confederate Prison Cemetery in Elmira, NY. membership to the CivilWarData page online. Bring your resources and your questions! > >Monday Jun-15 Confederate Soldiers > > >We are in the process of moving our #GenealogyForum webpage to a new website address. We will, also, have a new email address. Please make a note of both: > >http://www.rare.on.ca/users/genealogyforum/index.htm > >Email will be gen-4m@rare.on.ca > >These will be officially effective on Sunday, June 21. The new site is still a little messy but active.. The OLD site will be a little our of date until it is removed entirely. tex^mom >From #GenealogyForum IRC Channel on Afternet: server irc.afternet.org "Looking for YOUR Ancestors?" Need Simple instructions for joining us? Check our Webpage to Find 'em! We have topical discussions three evenings a week! DATES - TIMES - TOPICS ARE LISTED ON THE WEBPAGE http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/ email: pscobb@mailhost.iamerica.net

>Monday evening's meeting will cover Confederate Soldiers. Several of us have resources concerning them. i.e. List of soldiers buried at Elmira Confederate Prison Cemetery in Elmira, NY. membership to the CivilWarData page online. Bring your resources and your questions! > >Monday Jun-15 Confederate Soldiers > > >We are in the process of moving our #GenealogyForum webpage to a new website address. We will, also, have a new email address. Please make a note of both: > >http://www.rare.on.ca/users/genealogyforum/index.htm > >Email will be gen-4m@rare.on.ca > >These will be officially effective on Sunday, June 21. The new site is still a little messy but active.. The OLD site will be a little our of date until it is removed entirely. tex^mom >From #GenealogyForum IRC Channel on Afternet: server irc.afternet.org "Looking for YOUR Ancestors?" Need Simple instructions for joining us? Check our Webpage to Find 'em! We have topical discussions three evenings a week! DATES - TIMES - TOPICS ARE LISTED ON THE WEBPAGE http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/ email: pscobb@mailhost.iamerica.net

Night of 6/14/98 Evidently AOL is doing something to the mail boxes tonight. I couldn't send to three AOL memebers for that reason--mailbox not available. I am not receiving any mail now. Even I request that sent to a mail list which I should have got a copy off. If you Email anything and can't get through please resend later. Toni Gorman rockall@aol.com

I have records from a Tombstone buisness from Southern Ohio. The records show dates, inscriptions, cost, cemetery and town{ where to be placed}purchaser, family names.. I would like to know how to publish the records on CD and/or book form and to have them indexed by date, cemetery/town, name. They start in the late 1890's also have found old shipping invoices from Railroads and Granite Quarries cancelled and uncancelled two and three cent stamps.. So far have counted more than 20,000 records. What opinons do you have, as this being a tool for genealogist Has anyone taken on a task such as this?? Where do I start?? TIA, Charlene

Just as I was preparing to do this I was informed the listowners do not want us to do it since the lists are now archived and searchable and the surnames/signature line will give too many false hits. Please check your list owner for further information. Elaine IQHOPE@aol.com wrote: > Will someone tell me how to get those 'signatures' on my e-mail via AOL.com. > I would love to send all my e-mail out with a short listing of what SURNAMES I > am looking for, but am unable to figure it out on my AOL account. Any help > would be appreciated. > To avoid too many answer overwhelming my system, those who can and would > respond, please do so by Tuesday, June 16th. After that, I am hoping I will > already have the answer and not need to get any more. > Thanks in advance for any help I can get. > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work!

I don't know if a Surname Dictionary exists for all the possible surnames..... However I have two you might be interested in A Dictionary of English Surnames, the Standard Guide to English Surnames by P. H. Reaney & R. M. Wilson Oxford University Press £9.99 the paperback version ISBN 0-19-863146-4 I got mine at Barnes & Nobles I forgot what I paid for it. The above price is English pounds. This is a good resource. The next one is alright, just not organized like a Dictionary, exactly. Book of Irish Names, First, Family & Place Names by Ronan Coghlan, Ida Grehan & P.W. Joyce ISBN 0-8069-6944-X $9.95 American. Both are interesting. I found the first one more helpful. Good Luck. Linda DougMIV@aol.com

I finally saw this on another list. Thought you might want it for future use. The first one is the one I use when I want to report any sort of abuse. Don't know about the others, but am sending them FYI. LCranston Hotmail spam to: abuse@hotmail.com (full msg AND headers) Hotmail TOS: http://www.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/tos.cgi Hotmail UCE policy: http://www.hotmail.com/nospam.html GoodGuys: http://www-fofa.concordia.ca/spam/complaints.shtml Responsible sites: http://spam.abuse.net/goodsites/ FTC ScamSpam: http://www.junkemail.org/scamspam/ Spam-L FAQ: http://www.ot.com/~dmuth/spam-l

I've gone through hypnosis myself for therapy. It does work but nowhere near like the movies. The movies are a joke in that respect. Basically, it is a deep state of relaxtion and you still maintain full control. It's a possibility for you that it might work but keep in mind it is definitely not inexpensive. Recommend you see a psychologist who is trained in hypnosis. Good luck! George gebasden@worldnet.att.net http://www.basden.com ---------- > From: Gran67@aol.com > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: hypnotism > Date: Sunday, June 14, 1998 2:00 PM > > Has anyone had the experience of being hypnotized in an attempt to remember > things you've forgotten? > 50 years ago my grandfather told me all he knew of his family history; how 2 > brothers came from England, their names, where their ship landed, where they > went when they split up after arriving in America. He told me how his father > was in the Confederate Army and he met and married a Union Army nurse. That's > all I remember because I didn't make a point of remembering any details, not > being interested at that time. I know his parents names and little else. I > loved my grandpa and I loved to hear him talk and tell me things. Little did I > know that 50 years later I would try so hard to remember the things he said. > I have been wondering if hypnotism could bring those memories back or does > that happen just in the movies? > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! > > > > > > > > > > > > >

In a message dated 06/14/98 2:45:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, p1915@webtv.net writes: << Does anyone know where I can get a SURNAME Dictionary? J.C. >> I'm not sure if this is exactly what you mean, but it explains the meaning and origin of different surnames: <A HREF="http://clanhuston.com/name/surnames.htm"> http://clanhuston.com/name/surnames.htm</A> hope this helps, Patty Smith Tuffsearch@aol.com •~•~•~>Visit My Genealogy Links Page<~•~•~• Tuffsearch's Ancestors' Attic http://members.aol.com/Tuffsearch/Genealogylinks.html •~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•