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    1. HORNADAY
    2. Anyone know what nationality the surname HORNADAY would be? Sometimes the name was spelled without the y. My HORNADAY ancestors came from North Carolina to Indiana in the early to mid 1800's. Rockall@aol.com

    06/16/1998 02:43:20
    1. Newcomer
    2. I've tried looking for our name "Taverniti" on the Italy IGI at LDS center and found none. As a new researcher can someone tell me why our family wouldn't be there if I know they were born there? How is the IGI made up? Thanks, mgulluscio@aol.com

    06/16/1998 01:36:41
    1. HELP!!
    2. marcia collins
    3. Is there some computer person out there who can send help ASAP...I just deleted my inbox FOLDER...when it said, are you sure, this cannot be undone, my finger was already pressing this dumb mouse!...I only meant to delete ONE LETTER!!!! AAAHGGHHH! Sincerely hopeing someone can help, as there were letters that I WANTED! Marcia

    06/16/1998 01:24:24
    1. RE: cemetery records
    2. Connie Kangas
    3. I also use Microsoft Access - its very flexible. You can see some sample databases that I'v done at http://www.dreamscape.com/goldlinks/cemetery.htm I'd love to add your indexes when you get them - I'm building the databases every day for free access to others - its tedious, but will be worth it when I'm done... connie <>< <><-----Original Message----- <>< <><From: Faith Shaffer (by way of Genealogy Records Service <>< <><<info@genrecords.com>) [mailto:skinks@bigfoot.com] <>< <><Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 12:48 PM <>< <><To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <>< <><Subject: RE: cemetery records <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><To put them on computer you would need to set up a <>< <><database, with a field <>< <><for each entry (name, date, etc.).  Then you could just <>< <><save the database <>< <><to a writable CD.  Not very hard if you are into computers <>< <><and have all the <>< <><hardware needed.  The hardest part about this would be the <>< <><data entry, but <>< <><if you put it in book form you would have to do the typing <>< <><again anyway. <>< <><So... if you do put it in a database on computer this way, <>< <><then it is no <>< <><problem to print out "reports" that you could send to a book <>< <><binder/printer.  You could even just print them out and <>< <><bind them yourself <>< <><using one of those plastic spiral type binders. <>< <>< <>< <><The database program I would recommend:  Microsoft Access.  <>< <>< If you decide <>< <><to purchase a writable CD-ROM drive for your computer, <>< <><make sure and get <>< <><one of the new ones that allow you to use the CD just like <>< <><a floppy - <>< <><writing to it as many times as you want, even over old <>< <><info.  These aren't <>< <><too expensive - not much over $200 these days. <>< <>< <>< <><If you have any questions, just email me personally.  I <>< <><didn't know how <>< <><much detail to add. <>< <>< <>< <><Faith Shaffer <>< <><skinks@bigfoot.com <>< <>< <>< <><---------- <>< <><From: Charlene Murphy[SMTP:fmurphy1@bellsouth.net] <>< <><Sent: Monday, June 15, 1998 8:18 AM <>< <><To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <>< <><Subject: cemetery records <>< <>< <>< <><I have records from a Tombstone buisness from Southern Ohio.  The <>< <><records show dates, inscriptions, cost, cemetery and n{ <>< <><where to be <>< <><placed}purchaser, family names.. I would like to know how <>< <><to publish the <>< <><records on CD and/or book form and to  have them indexed by date, <>< <><cemetery/town, name.  They start in the late 1890's also <>< <><have found old <>< <><shipping invoices from Railroads and Granite Quarries cancelled and <>< <><uncancelled two and three cent stamps.. So far have <>< <><counted more than <>< <><20,000 records.  What opinons do you have, as this being a tool for <>< <><genealogist  Has anyone taken on a task such as this??  Where do I <>< <><start??   TIA, Charlene <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><==== GenTips Mailing List ==== <>< <><Are you having trouble unsubscribing to the list? You can <>< <><subscribe and <>< <><unsubscribe to the lists we own from our web page at: <>< <><<http://www.genrecords.com/>http://www.genrecords.com <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><==== GenTips Mailing List ==== <>< <><Don't forget to stop by our business web page for FREE <>< <><genealogy forms and charts! We are adding more all the time!!!! <>< <><http://www.genrecords.com <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><

    06/16/1998 01:22:25
    1. Sask. CANADA
    2. marcia collins
    3. Good morning All, I would like to ask if anyone happens to have census inf. for BIGGAR SK. Canada for the 1910-1930 era? If so, I would like to ask if they would look-up the family of Walter GLOVER head of house Isabella wife Jessie daugh Margaret b. 1914 my mother Albert N son George Scotty John Cameron (Ronnie) I know there were other siblings, I do not at this time have all names or dates. Thank you very Much Marcia Moore Collins

    06/16/1998 01:06:11
    1. Re: Research at the National Archives
    2. Gloria Daum
    3. Hi Brenda, I found the information very interesting, however disturbing. It has been a few years since I was at the Archives in Laguna Niguel, Orange Co., Calif. At that time the procedure was quite simple.......no bag checks, lockers, etc. In the various responses you have rec'd, did you get the idea ALL the Archives were so severely strict? I can understand why they are, but was surprised. Best, Gloria Daum

    06/16/1998 12:47:57
    1. Re: Sask. CANADA
    2. Howard Johnston
    3. It's my understanding the Canadian Statistics has not opened the 1911 census. Howard marcia collins wrote: > Good morning All, > > I would like to ask if anyone happens to have census inf. for BIGGAR SK. > Canada for the 1910-1930 era? > > If so, I would like to ask if they would look-up the family of > Walter GLOVER head of house > Isabella wife > Jessie daugh > Margaret b. 1914 my mother > Albert N son > George > Scotty > John Cameron (Ronnie) > > I know there were other siblings, I do not at this time have all names or > dates. > > Thank you very Much > > Marcia Moore Collins > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work!

    06/16/1998 11:47:14
    1. Re: Research at the National Archives
    2. Many, many thanks to those who responded to my query re the National Archives. I've copied parts of some of the replies and am sending them to the list, there seemed to be several people interested. You've helped so much! Brenda << ****************************************************************************** ************* You may get several responces to this but here is my two cents.  I live in VA and have been into the archives several times so may be able to answer most of your questions.  I myself have a trip planned next week. > 1. What can I carry in? Pen or pencil? Bag, notebook, briefcase? Lunch? You may bring in most anything as far as pens and papers. I always have all my research notes in notebooks and papers, pens and folders. I even have a little pouch I carry with pen, pencils paperclips, sticky notes ect.  You will be stopped at the door and your bags searched (quickly) if you have a laptop or phone they will write down the id # on it so they can check it out when you leave. (they will also search you on the way out)   No food allowed although I usually take some candy like sweet tarts (hard type stuff) and no on has ever said anything.  There is a McDonalds and Wendys a couple of blocks away.  I usually do not eat as when I am there I want to spend as much time researching as possible. But when one of my family goes with me I have to take a break for food.    > 2. Can I request, view and copy a packet on my Rev. War ancestor(s) on the day of my visit to the library, even without a pension #? If you want to view pension records you really should put that request on that information in as soon as possible.  Ask the volunteers that are there when you first get off the elevator. (they are  much more helpful than the paid employess inside) for the microfilm roll number  of soldiers for your state.  They will get the appropriate information for you.  Then look on the rolls to get the appropriate numbers.  Then you will fill out an order form.  The reason you need to do this early is that they come from a different room and the wait is ususally at least two hours. During the summer with all the extra people there it may be more.  While you are waiting for that you can do your other reasearching.  You should also go get a "reader card" I think they call it while you are waiting as you will need to have one to get in the room where they let you read the special stuff (like pension).  The room where you get that is right next to the volunteer table.  The only thing you need to get one is a form of ID.  Oh ya in that room you will need to leave your stuff with someone or in a locker.  That room they provide you with papers and pencil.  You can bring nothing in that room except your copy card and I think a laptop.  You are dealing with the actual records there so they don't want any disappearing.  Most of the stuff you will be able to make copies of. Commercial break---Copy cards.  Take small currancy.  It cost $1.00 to buy a electronic card and then you can add incriments of 1, 5,10 and 20 dollars.  You must have the one dollar though to start the card.  Copys in the archives room are .25 a piece because the paper is so big for the census copy and in the other room I was telling you about it is .10 a copy.     The card is good indefinitly as I am using the same card I got last summer and have been there several times. > 3. Are land records available? Wills? Probate? > 4. Other than census records, what are the other best use materials that may be helpful for my research? All of my ancestors were in America before the Rev. The main state for research is VA, with PA and NY secondary. There are lots of records at the archives.  I have only been using the services of the census and war records and started on immigration so can not answer that question.  I know the book I bought about researching there mentions these things I have not gotten that far. If you can get a copy to read of the book Genealogical research in the National Archives it gives you a great idea of what is there.  The first time I went to the archives I felt a little lost there is so much to learn.  I probably am not always using my time to the best advantage but am learning as I go.  Use the volunteers if you have any questions they are very nice and very willing to help you out. Hope I have not rambled to much and given you some ideas on what to do.  If you have any more questions feel free to ask and I will try to answer them.  ***************************************************************************** ************* Answers to your questions re Archives. 1.  All okay with possible exception of lunch. You could probably carry it in, but you couldn't eat it in research room. If you visit in nice weather, though, there are benches outside building--lovely place to sit, eat, and enjoy the passersby. 2.  Service jacket can be seen on microfilm reader and Xeroxed for 50 cents per page. Pension folder can be ordered for reading in research room. Ordering takes about an hour. You are not permitted to take anything except a pencil and paper into the research room (no pens). Lockers are availablefree of charge in the hallway. Bring quarters to activate lockers. Quarters returned when you retrieve your belongings. 3.  Land, probate, will, orphans court records not available so far as I know. These are typicallly held at county and state offices. General remarks: Bring small bills (ones) for purchasing a card that activates the Xerox machine in the Census room. Copies of pages from census books cost 10 cents each. When you locate the census file you are interested in, you may view it on the microfilm reader. The old records are frequently very faint and hard to read. I have never tried to get Xerox copies of these records, but I assume you could make them, just as you can make copies of service jackets and their contents. Another observation: working at Archives takes TIME. The place is busy, and frequently one must wait in line for a microfilm reader. Then finding the microfilm and trying to decipher old, faint handwriting is slow. You should, by all means, go to Archives. It is a great source of information, as is the Library of Congress, which has a fine genealogy room. If you go to the Library of Congress, remember that you enter the genealogy room from the back of the building (on 2nd street) as opposed to the front, which is a museum containing such artifacts as the Constitution, etc. ***************************************************************************** *************** You may carry in, your notebook, briefcase, pen and pencils.  I recomend more than one pen or pencile, in case one breaks, or runs out of ink, or rolls under the microfilm reader. I don't know about your lunch.  If your going to the Ft. Worth, TX branch, it would be ok. 2.) Yes, Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Applications Files. are on M-804.  There is an index book, (usually found on the top of the filling cabnet) look in this index for your surname, it will tell you what roll number in the M-804 series to look at. As it is more the possible to find more than one person with the same name. Make sure you take with you notes, on other identifing facts of your ancestor. ie) wife and childern's names if known Also the, microfilm series M-860 is a General index to Compiled Military Service Records of Revolutionary War Soldiers. ***Ask when you first arrive at the Archives for a list of RECORDS AVAIABLE. It will help you alot.***** The Ft. Worth Archives, charges $1.75 per copy of thier microfilm pages.. and military records can run several pages. You may want to call your Archives in advance to find out what they charge, so you are preparded. ***************************************************************************** ************* The only records you will find at the National Archives are Federal Records. This includes Federal Land Records and Revolutionary War Pension Records. There are no state or county records there. You are allowed a pencil or pen and paper. Any bags, purses, briefcases etc. must be deposited in a locker, so take some change, as the locker requires a quarter deposit (at least the one in San Bruno does). You keep the key to the locker, so you do have access to it whenever you want in case you need another pen, more paper etc. It might be a good idea to take a lunch, unless you know there's someplace near you can eat. Your lunch will have to be deposited in the locker also, and you'll probably have to take it outside to eat, maybe even to your car if the weather's bad. I don't know of any that provide an inside eating facility. You can copy records, and as I recall, there was no charge for that. It's been awhile since I've been there, so maybe someone else could tell you for sure. There will be someone there who can tell you how to use the records. I found them very helpful. ***************************************************************************** ****************** Try this URL:  <http://www.nara.gov/>http://www.nara.gov/ It is the homepage of the National Archives.  You can then link to other areas on their site.  If you "click" on the "Genealogy" hyperlink---it should give you a good bit of info, as well as their other areas also.  Hope that helps. ***************************************************************************** *******************   >>

    06/16/1998 10:48:47
    1. Re: Organization
    2. Buck McDaniel
    3. I have the same problem, but it seems to be more complex.  I get 800 to 1000 messages a day and often find useful information.  Therefore I have taken the following strategy.  I have a "keepsakes" directory in which I move messages with useful information or messages I want to respond to before deleting. Later I go through the files and verify that I still want to keep them.  If they contain web addresses, I check out the sites and if I like, I add them to my favorites and delete the message.  If the message contains other useful information, I keep it in my keepsakes folder.  If I delete a message, I just hope I can request the info when needed on the list servers. (it's not perfect but it works for me!) I don't do this, but a possible solution to your problems might be to cut and paste the paragraph with the useful information you want to keep in a windows write file under an appropriate heading.  Keep adding to the file as often as you find information you want to keep.  Then when you need to find the information, you can do a search and find key words, or search topics under which you paste your notes.  It will only be one file, which is much more efficient than multiple files, and allow you to search as needed, paraphrase, comment or otherwise edit to your desire. Optionally, you may consider multiple files for certain topics.  Or use Microsoft Word, etc. that allows you to create an index or list key-words to search for a particular document. Hope this helps, Buck p.s. It doesn't hurt to snip out some of the text or remove some of the older messages you folk reply to...:) -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Maddox <elainetm@worldnet.att.net> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 12:40 AM Subject: Re: Organization >Hi Gloria, > <<< SNIP  --  SNIP >>> > >Best, > >Elaine > >Gloria Daum wrote: > >> Hi Elaine, you write: >> <<< SNIP  --  SNIP >>> >> >> ---------- >> > From: Elaine Maddox <elainetm@worldnet.att.net> >> > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: Organization >> > Date: Monday, June 15, 1998 9:04 PM >> > >> > Hi Dick, >> > <<< SNIP  --  SNIP >>> . . >> . . >> > >> > >> > >> > Dick Schweiss wrote: >> > >> > > Beth (and all) >> > > <<< SNIP  --  SNIP >>> >> > > >> > > Just an idea.. >> > > >> > > Dick Schweiss >> > > dicks@sttl.uswest.net >> > > Tacoma, WA. >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >> > Don't forget to stop by our business web page for FREE genealogy forms >> and charts! We are adding more all the time!!!! >> > <http://www.genrecords.com/>http://www.genrecords.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >Family Workings: <http://www.familyworkings.com/>http://www.familyworkings.com > <<< SNIP  --  SNIP >>> > > > > > > > >

    06/16/1998 10:48:42
    1. Re: organization
    2. Catherine Morse
    3. Edith wrote: > I guess one problem is that it is more fun to play on the computer than to do > the actual filing. Maybe I need to print out a list of the subfolders in my > genealogy folder and use that as a guide for filing the actual papers. How do > the rest of you deal with the paper? This is something that I think we all have to deal with.  I'm re-starting my project of organizing all I have collected.  It is a slow and painful process because I wasn't very good about keeping up with it.  This has been going on for about 3 years.  *argh*  A book that I've found useful with good tips and suggestions is Beverly DeLong Whitaker's Beyond Pedigrees: Organizing and Enhancing Your Work. Thanks to those who responded to my copying of birth certificates questions. And thanks to Linda Haas Davenport for the great information on research in courthouses!  Wow!  You sound extremely organized and that makes me wonder what type of system you use for your paper and documents filing? Catherine

    06/16/1998 10:48:39
    1. Re: GenTips-D Digest V98 #440
    2. In a message dated 6/15/98 10:19:06 AM, you wrote: <<The federal government has taken censuses every ten years since 1790, although no all of the ones taken are still in existance (some parts have been lost). The biggest loss was the 1890 census which suffered water damage after a fire. (There's 3 reels worth of miscellaneous stuff that survived, and a veteran's & widow's schedule from mid Kentucky on back in the alphabet...supposed to have been only Civil War Union Vets & widows, but others were also enumerated by zealous census takers...it's better than absolutely nothing.)    The 1880 one you ran across on line was probably 1880...a transcription.  I caution folks on transcriptions because even with careful transcribing, they can misspell, misidentify families, so if you can find your folks on it great--use it as a reference to the real thing to see if you can find out anything additional (sometimes you can learn a lot.), and if you can't, go look at the real thing.  If they alphabetize the transcription, you lose their place in the community, and we are often advised to look ten to twenty families either side of our families, because in another ten to twenty years, many of them will also turn out to be related by marriage.  You can also get a feel for the handwriting of the day, and sometimes recognize your ancestor's name when someone else transcribing it might think it looked like something else.  (A marriage transcription put one of my ancestors as Conner when it should have been Comer...a much less common, nearly unknown name in many areas...easy to overlook when it happens that way.) Sometimes you may find that a relative was actually the one who wrote the census in question, and you have pages of his handwriting as a memento.  What I am saying is that we need to remember that transcriptions are secondary sources of original records and we need to treat them as such.  Great finding aids, and guides to the real records. >>

    06/16/1998 10:48:34
    1. info
    2. Michele Wms-Smith
    3. correction: I'm looking for information on 15th new york infantry  369 regiment F company. my grandfather osman williams received a  purple heart. He had to fight along side  of the french sorry about the  spelling in the  1st message ...

    06/16/1998 10:48:30
    1. info
    2. Michele Wms-Smith
    3. I'm looking for the phone number or help to locate information on 369 regiment - on 144 st in New York  my grandfather osman williams  was in 369 and 15 enfultree for the F company

    06/16/1998 10:48:26
    1. RE: cemetery records
    2. Faith Shaffer
    3. To put them on computer you would need to set up a database, with a field for each entry (name, date, etc.).  Then you could just save the database to a writable CD.  Not very hard if you are into computers and have all the hardware needed.  The hardest part about this would be the data entry, but if you put it in book form you would have to do the typing again anyway. So... if you do put it in a database on computer this way, then it is no problem to print out "reports" that you could send to a book binder/printer.  You could even just print them out and bind them yourself using one of those plastic spiral type binders. The database program I would recommend:  Microsoft Access.  If you decide to purchase a writable CD-ROM drive for your computer, make sure and get one of the new ones that allow you to use the CD just like a floppy - writing to it as many times as you want, even over old info.  These aren't too expensive - not much over $200 these days. If you have any questions, just email me personally.  I didn't know how much detail to add. Faith Shaffer skinks@bigfoot.com ---------- From: Charlene Murphy[SMTP:fmurphy1@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, June 15, 1998 8:18 AM To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com Subject: cemetery records I have records from a Tombstone buisness from Southern Ohio.  The records show dates, inscriptions, cost, cemetery and town{ where to be placed}purchaser, family names.. I would like to know how to publish the records on CD and/or book form and to  have them indexed by date, cemetery/town, name.  They start in the late 1890's also have found old shipping invoices from Railroads and Granite Quarries cancelled and uncancelled two and three cent stamps.. So far have counted more than 20,000 records.  What opinons do you have, as this being a tool for genealogist  Has anyone taken on a task such as this??  Where do I start??   TIA, Charlene ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== Are you having trouble unsubscribing to the list? You can subscribe and unsubscribe to the lists we own from our web page at: <http://www.genrecords.com/>http://www.genrecords.com

    06/16/1998 10:48:23
    1. Re: Sask. CANADA
    2. I read I believe on the Scotch-Irish List that the 1911 Canadian Census which was supposed to have been placed in the Canadian Archives this year for the public will not be made public nor will later censuses. It has to do with the Canadians promise of privacy for information given on the censuses. Needless to say the Canadian genealogists are upset. Ms G rockall@aol.com

    06/16/1998 10:31:15
    1. PaperMaster web site.
    2. Beth Sloan
    3. I never could find the web address in all my stacks of paper or in the folders I have created for my email. That just doesn't work for me. So I wrote the lady who told us about Paper Master last year when I first tried to get organized (and it didn't work) Cathy just answered...said that there is an upgrade and it is even better than the old one. The web site is: www.documagix.com. There is also a review of the 3.0 version written by Wayne Kawamoto 10/30/97 on CNET which makes it sound great. I have tried to answer everyone who asked for the web site but I think I missed two hence I am posting to the list. Office Depot carried it for about $100 (that was the price on the older version) I haven't seen the upgrade. CNET wrote a review of the 3.0 version 10/30/97 and it may still be there. Beth Sloan Las Vegas

    06/16/1998 10:10:41
    1. Genealogy advice?
    2. Jeannette Prouse
    3. Hello everyone, I am sorry to send this to everyone. I received an email from someone on this list who was seeking some advice on their genealogy. It was probably sent Sunday or Monday. If anyone has contacted me and has not heard a reply, please email me again. My computer seems to have lost a couple of emails I know that I had received and had not answered. Thank you. Sincerely, Jeannette Prouse

    06/16/1998 09:19:28
    1. Mecklenburg Co., VA 1870 Boydton Dist. Part 1 Census Posted
    2. Bernard Rodenhizer
    3. The below link will take you the the Mecklenburg Co, VA 1870 Boydton Dist. Part 1. This is one of 8 or 9 Dist. for the 1870 Mecklenburg Co., VA Census. Iam more then half way through with the entire 1870 Meck Co., VA census. I will post again when each dist. is complete. It takes longer to check out what has been transcribed then to transcribe, but these steps insure correctness. This census has not been published. It is the first census that ALL persons were counted. Those who are tracing their Black roots will find it useful. Some portions would be imposible to transcribe with a microfilm reader. These have been scanned in using a film scanner then transcirbed using PhotoShop view and Excel to enter the data This makes those portions which are dim come alive. I hope someone can find this information useful. Any one needing a copy of a page in JPG format contact me at rodey@kerrlake.com Anyone seeing any errors please notify me at the above email address. The link to the census is http://www.rootsweb.com/~vameckle/index.htm -- Searching for RODENHIZER-PA, MD, VA & NC, GREEN(E)-RI, NY, AMMONETTE-VA, MORRISEY-NY, HILL-NC,VA, BURCH-VA, CATE(S)-NC,VA, PULLY-NC, VA, HAMNER-VA,NC and CRAFT-VA. http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/o/d/Bernard-C-Rodenhizer http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/3253 http://www.rootsweb.com/~vameckle/index.htm rodey@kerrlake.com Mecklenburg Co., VA

    06/16/1998 06:29:25
    1. Court House Research
    2. Linda Haas Davenport
    3. In reference to tips for court house research. Here's my way. Hope it helps someone. Courthouse Research, you don't know what you're asking - people say that if you ask Linda what time it is she'll tell you how to build a watch - so here goes Here's how I go about it. Before I head for the courthouse I reach for the Handy Book for Genealogist (or you might have the Redbook) and check to see what records are listed as available for a given courthouse. I then call the courthouse and ask their hours, directions to find the courthouse and if they have particular rules or regulations I need to be aware of (no pens, someone will help you or not - in one courthouse I found that anything prior to 1960 was stored at a "U-Store It" site and weren't accessible to anyone). I ask the cost of copies and whether I will be able to make them myself or not (a really important item to know since it takes forever to get someone to stop work - or talking to a co-worker - and make a copy). I ask if the local genealogy society or some helpful person has made a list of what's available at the courthouse - many times this list exists and you know about it because no one at the courthouse volunteers the info. Next I sit down at the computer (using a word processing program) and make a list of things I want to find at the courthouse. I set up headings such as "Marriage Records", "Land Records", "Wills", etc. and carefully list what I need to find giving myself all of the info I already have and detailed info on what I need to find. (You don't have time at the courthouse to dig thru piles of papers in your notebooks to try to find information on what you want to find - do this type of digging at home). Leave several blank lines between each item so that you can write yourself notes about what you find (or don't find). When I get to the courthouse I approach the most likely looking person (the one that doesn't greet you with a frown and a "sniff") to inquire about where records are located. I use my "headings" on my list and jot down the location of where the records are located, because they aren't usually in one room, not even in the smallest courthouse. I once again ask about any particular rules or regulations, find where the copy machine is, find out how to pay for copies, who makes them, etc. You get this info when you first phone, but you need to compare it to the human standing before you who will either be more helpful or more obstructive than the one you talked to on the phone. Next you start at one end of the room and walk the entire room looking at everything on the shelves. You will almost always find things that are NOT in the Handy Book or Redbook. For example: At the Monroe Co MS Courthouse there is a book on land that was taken back for taxes, a book of licenses for old churches and cemeteries, a membership book for several "Ladies Societies", a minute book of the "Police Committee". I make a list of these items and note what they cover. Usually none are indexed, but by a short look through you can tell time frames and get an idea of what's in the book. I may later need to "really get into" these items so I'm careful with my notes. I then start with the first item on my list and start looking. For example if I'm looking for a marriage certificate I first check the indexes, then if necessary I sit down and turn each page scanning the names, dates, etc. If I find my info I make a copy, turn the copy over and enter the date I found the info, the name & address of the courthouse, the number of the Marriage volume, whether the info was also in the index, the page number and any other info so that I or anyone else can find the info again. I check the item off my list and go to the next item. If the info is not there I make a note of what I searched and that the info wasn't there and then go on to the next item. I work my way throught the list and hopefully I'll get all of my notes checked in the time I have at the courthouse. If you find yourself running out of time and your list isn't done, make notes of the books available that should contain the info you need. You can later write to the courthouse and request that they search. If you have to do this check with the clerks to see how they respond to written requests for searches. Some will tell you that they simply won't search at all, that you have to have the exact book and page number before they will even make a copy. You have to take each courthouse individually and work within their process. I could write about 30 pages on courthouse research, but this is it in a nutshell. Hope that it helped you. Linda lhaasdav@avana.net Home Page: http://www.avana.net/~lhaasdav/Haas.html

    06/16/1998 04:21:15
    1. Re: Organization
    2. Elaine Maddox
    3. Hi Gloria, Yes, I do understand. We are doing the same thing and I agree that it works quite well and hope others are doing similar revisions of their mail. I also frequently will pull/copy from digests just the information I want and mail that to myself. But the volume in my mailbox, on my zip drive, and on old floppies, is just becoming burdensome. I keep hoping there's a better way. The fact is I don't like filing and hope a program will take over some of this work. If a Quicken program can keep your finances, I don't see why a filing program can't keep your files <hope, hope, hope!>. Best, Elaine Gloria Daum wrote: > Hi Elaine, you write: > > "every time I want to re-read or re-send something, I find I must > search the messages or material with a guess at the key words in the body > of the email " > > My solution is: > When I have a name or specific info that I want to keep in a posting I > receive, I fwd. the letter to myself, changing the "subject" to the > info./name that will catch my attention when looking for it later in the > "sent" mail. Do you understand? Gloria > > ---------- > > From: Elaine Maddox <elainetm@worldnet.att.net> > > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: Organization > > Date: Monday, June 15, 1998 9:04 PM > > > > Hi Dick, > > > > My research is all there, but every time I want to re-read or re-send > something, I find I must > > search the messages or material with a guess at the key words in the body > of the email or > > document. I am hoping a filing program will make that easier. I already > am anually filing under > > "family" (separate folders for separate family names), "books re > genealogy," "Research," and so on > > and so on. The Netscape mail program is a good one for dividing mail. I > also use FTM and > > recently bought Ultimate because it was very inexpensive and offers a > slightly different report. > > But one always hopes for something better when it comes to filing . . . . > . . > > > > > > > > Dick Schweiss wrote: > > > > > Beth (and all) > > > > > > Ratherthan spend money on another program ... however good ... why not > > > just make a new FOLDER on your C-Drive, and put all that "excess" > > > material there... untill iy's needed ??? > > > > > > Just an idea.. > > > > > > Dick Schweiss > > > dicks@sttl.uswest.net > > > Tacoma, WA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > > Don't forget to stop by our business web page for FREE genealogy forms > and charts! We are adding more all the time!!!! > > http://www.genrecords.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

    06/15/1998 10:47:51