I am having trouble relating townships to counties.  So many times i run across something that will just give the township.  Does anyone out there know of a master list with county names that would show all townships within that county.  I know that they have probably changed over the years but would find it helpful to know that at least at sometime the particular township was in a certain county of the state interested in. Thanks for any help or advice lila miller

I am a convert to the Chruch of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and the "only member in my family" But when I checked on my grandmother's  name of Nowlin, I found the work in the Temple from her back was done.............A young Nowlin girl ran off with a Mormon in the 1840's  and her ancestor's have done the work. Also going back to the early 1700's in England, my husband and I have a ggggg-grandfather  in commen.   There is a Mormon in the wood pile of every family.

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Chris Powles (by way of Genealogy Records Service ) wrote: in answer to Michele's Purple Heart query - > Try this site for purple hearts listing <http://www.excel.net/~sebring/indexhtm>http://www.excel.net/~sebring/indexhtm I did find this site, altho the address as given is slightly incorrect. Here's what worked for me: http://www.excel.net/~sebring/index.htm Question: Why do I so often see the url addresses doubled, like above? Is this some bad html quirk? I copy and paste from my bookmark file, to avoid any typing errors. It's frustrating to click on an interesting site, only to get a silly error message. Anyway, this site deserves more attention, and needs more recipients added. Let's each do our bit! All the best, Valorie Cowan McBee Zimmerman

Am researching these surnames in Tennessee.BAXTER,BROWN,TACKET,PIPKIN. West Tn. area espeacially. Any help would be appreciated.

Please answer to the group. I can sure use the info. ---Ladybug <wng@accces.com> wrote: > > I've never been very good at organizing things (not one of my talents!) > and I'm starting to get frustrated trying to figure out what to do with > the genealogy information I'm collecting, especially those pieces of > information that don't fit in with any particular family, but I'm > keeping because I think it might lead to something later on. > > Any good ideas for keeping things organized? > > Alice W > > -- > Ladybug Links: > Books, Music, Homeschool, Genealogy and Fun! > http://www.accces.com/~wng/index.htm > *Do not forget little kindnesses, and do not remember little faults.* > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Several have inquired about this so will post to everyone. Scottish naming pattern: First son named after dad's father, Second son named after mom's dad, Third son named after dad. First daughter named after mom's mother, Second daughter named after dad's mother, Third daughter named after mom. This is typical enough so that it is called a naming pattern. Occasionally families had their own traditions. If all dads in the family were named John, they might opt to name just one son John, or they might name all three John. The old rule that a second child with the same name meant that the first child died is typical in Scotland as well, BUT as with all "rules" not all followed it. I have found my families in Campbeltown, Argyl, and Arran Island, Bute were about 95% faithful in following the custom. Made for a long line of Nathaniel, Archibald, Nathaniel, Archibald's. Use the pattern as a clue, but understand that there may have been exceptional circumstances that caused a family to deviate from custom. Karen

Hi, One good thing about modern inventions. In the 1980 census in NYC records were water soaked due to a fire. The Fed then had them carefully collect to "freeze dry" them. In this way some of the records were saved. ---OmahaMom@aol.com wrote: > > The federal government has taken censuses every ten years since 1790, although > no all of the ones taken are still in existance (some parts have been lost). > The biggest loss was the 1890 census which suffered water damage after a fire. > (There's 3 reels worth of miscellaneous stuff that survived, and a veteran's & > widow's schedule from mid Kentucky on back in the alphabet...supposed to have > been only Civil War Union Vets & widows, but others were also enumerated by > zealous census takers...it's better than absolutely nothing.) > The 1880 one you ran across on line was probably 1880...a transcription. I > caution folks on transcriptions because even with careful transcribing, they > can misspell, misidentify families, so if you can find your folks on it > great--use it as a reference to the real thing to see if you can find out > anything additional (sometimes you can learn a lot.), and if you can't, go > look at the real thing. If they alphabetize the transcription, you lose their > place in the community, and we are often advised to look ten to twenty > families either side of our families, because in another ten to twenty years, > many of them will also turn out to be related by marriage. You can also get a > feel for the handwriting of the day, and sometimes recognize your ancestor's > name when someone else transcribing it might think it looked like something > else. (A marriage transcription put one of my ancestors as Conner when it > should have been Comer...a much less common, nearly unknown name in many > areas...easy to overlook when it happens that way.) > Sometimes you may find that a relative was actually the one who wrote the > census in question, and you have pages of his handwriting as a memento. > > What I am saying is that we need to remember that transcriptions are secondary > sources of original records and we need to treat them as such. Great finding > aids, and guides to the real records. > > Karen > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

The answer to your question is YES. Monongalia was in Virginia, until West Virginia seceded from Virginia at the time of the Civil War. At that point, it became part of W. VA. Just depends on what year you're looking at. Karen

Hi Dick, When I submitted my surname for a free search, I was not aware that I had to send a GEDCOM file for more information. There are those like me, who have just a couple of names to go on. What would I submit? Smile, Judith

Hi GenTippers, Can any of my friends out there help me with this wall? Is "MOHONGLIA COUNTY in WVA. or VA"? Thanks for sharing, Judith

Hi All, This was the results to my free search. Smile, Judith

Look at your nearest genealogy library for a book called a Township Atlas. It will give all the townships in each county for each state in the union. I use the one at our library a LOT. One can be purchased for home use for $85--but it is, as you can imagine, a very thick book...you need to balance the number of counties you're interested in with the possible total cost of the book. Ideas of things to consider in using it: 1. If one family is living close to the county line, and the county seat is quite a ways away, it increases the possibility that they may have married in the neighboring county. 2. A family may have married someone in another county/state rather than someone in the same county if they live in a township bordering a county/state line, particularly if the two families lived in townships at opposite sides of the county. Distance via horseback could slow a young man, even in those days. 3. If a family owned land, knowing the township can speed up locating them in the next census, if there doesn't happen to be a census index locally for the year you want to look at. If they didn't own land, they may have moved elsewhere in the county a lot more easily than if they were more or less anchored by land ownership. 4. If you have located two "John Smith" families that are possible candidates for your ancestor, comparing the township the will was recorded for may help you identify which one is which in the census. (Wills don't exist for everyone, don't ALWAYS give the township.) Good luck. If you don't have a Township Atlas at your library, let me know. Karen

I was asked about Irish naming patterns after posting a note about Scottish naming patterns and so referred the question to a friend who's an expert Irish researcher with years of experience in Ireland & N Ireland. Here's her reply for those who are interested. Karen "Although occasionally individual families had naming patterns of their own, the Irish generally do not. Of course, an exception is the Scots Irish of the North who frequently follow the naming customs of their Scottish ancestors." Carol Burdick Davidson, Irish researcher

I maintain that a good genealogist is going to collect a lot of "unrelated" material in the search if being thorough. After all, one doesn't know whether they'll turn out to be connected on an earlier generation, or "the kid nobody remembered to tell me about". I put copies of this type in a file folder labeled by type of source: census 1850 Lanc co, PA; census 1860 Union co, TN; marriage records Grainger co, TN. Then if I want to see if I have something I can go do the applicable folders & search through them. I tend to xerox copies of known relatives & suspected ones in the census because of the frequently vast amount of clues beyond the first three or four spaces--and I don't want to miss them. Marriage records, I just hand copy all the names & dates for everybody that has the right name into a notebook & label the note book with the source & xerox just the known relatives (have to draw the line somewhere, you know). It's easy to underline with different colored markers the various surnames I'm searching for--when I get home from the researching. Then I can look quickly through a notebook or stack of xerox copies and tell which family I'm looking for by the pink, or yellow, etc. But yes, you're going to get a lot of unrelated notes, if you're doing the job well. That way you're less likely to miss someone. Karen

One of my ancestors by marriage was a doctor in Illinois. I know very little about her except that someone thinks she went to Overton College. Does anyone know where that is or how I can find out? I'm assuming it was in Illinois, but I really don't know. I've been lurking for weeks, being thoroughly entertained and learning lots. Thanks! Linda Caulkins Stegall Researching CAULKINS, SIMPSON, CORN, ANDERSON, LESTER

I am not Mormon but I must agree. I have great respect for the LDS and its interest in family history. I am grateful they are here for us. I've visited the LDS site and think that people should probably take a look at that information since it may correct any misconceptions. The address is http://www.lds.org/ And, if it weren't for the LDS records in Salt Lake, I would *not* have information on my grandparents' marriage in 1879. The thread seems inappropriate for a genealogy list when there are so many other avenues to explore if one is concerned about the beliefs of the LDS. Elaine Grace Seitzer wrote: > Certainly no harm is done to anyone in the Mormon sealing. At the very > least, we should be grateful for all the information they have gathered and > made available to all who seek it. > > Grace > owlandme@msn.com >

I do not want to keep this going, this is all I have to say, MY point was this.....You submit your file, it is then put out on the WFT CD, they ARE excellent files, full of wonderful inf. for the researcher....however..I sent a look up offer to the list regarding several of theses CD'S....this list only! I received a letter via e-mail FROM Family tree maker, highlighting the agreement that is printed on the CD that I would not make this public information....the letter included MY letter to the list...It had to have been picked up via this list..the letter went on to point out that I could 'share'one file with a family member only....It was, and remains my contention that most people will BUY the CD, once they have the knowledge that their family is indeed on it...many people just wanted to eliminate a tree that seemed just close.....The same inf. can be gotten at libraries, free of charge..so what is the problem with someone sharing on a list? Thank you Marcia -----Original Message----- From: theshadow <theshadow@hot1.net> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 1:58 AM Subject: Family Histories >Hi Folks, > I have bought and used Broderbund products many times and I was >grateful to get the information. I use FTM for my data base. >However, I am a little hard headed when it comes to "giving" the >> > > > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: >http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > >

Jeanette, It is always best to subscribe in a case like your's. If you are still subscribed, the list's robot computer will tell you that, and then you have confirmation you are still on the list. If you were dropped by the list because your mail was bouncing, then you will receive an acknowledgement that you have been subscribed (again). Good luck. Elaine by way of Genealogy Records Service wrote: > I had to be off line a couple of days and when I returned my mail box was > full. Since that time, I have not gotten any mail from the several lists I am > a subscriber to. Do I need to re-subscribe?? > > Jeanette >

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