My appologies folks the first time around I gave the wrong Timken. It should have been William Cord Timken born Oct. 23, 1885 either in KS or OK. His first wife's name was Myrtle Williams, they had two daughters Mildred who married Loren Dashiell and they had first a son then 3 daughters. Second daughter was Lethama or Letha Mae [not sure which] she married Maurice Morris and they had two daughters. After his first wife died he married a lady named Lydia. They were in Spokane WA in the early 1960's. That's the only information I have on them. Lois L. Coffelt Nee Feldman Researching Timken's & Feldmans, later will research Gerken's & Holtzen's, Green, & Miller.

Hi Jean: I know we will agree to disagree on this. However, I am not going to take sides on this one<g> With the advent of the American Public screaming that government is too big and costly something has to give. Unfortunately, sometimes that means closing a place down that means a lot to the people in the area like a military base, records center, closing VA hospitals in rural areas, etc. We scream and complain about higher taxes but I really don't know what the solution is. The keyword in the government today is work smarter not harder and do it with less to save the taxpayers money. Somewhere there has to be a compromise I suspect. George gebasden@worldnet.att.net http://www.basden.com ---------- > From: theshadow <theshadow@hot1.net> > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Closing of Some ARCHIVES > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 10:24 PM > > Hello Folks, > There are several achives around the country which are being proposed > for closing or moving to another site. One such is the one at FT. > Worth, TX which is being considered for being moved to GA. This, of > course, would be great for the folks in GA, but would be a tradegy for > North Texans who have no other source other than the Dallas Public > Library for extensive genealogical research. That's not to down-play > the part that other libraries play in providing gen. research, but the > Archives are a MAJOR source of information. > > As a follow-up to the closing of the FT. Worth Archives, a friend sent > me an up-date on the meeting to discuss the closing. It is very long, > so I am just giving you the URL where you can go to get the latest > update. The main point made I am copying for you below as I think it > is something we all need to know----write, write, write the powers > that be: > > >Richard Claypoole, Assistant Archivist for Regional Records > Services, and Stephen Hannestad, Head of the Space and Security > Management Division, came to Ft. Worth on June 10 to hold a > public meeting concerning the future of the National Archives, > Southwest Region in Ft. Worth, and the possible closing and/or > consolidation of various regional branches of the National > Archives. > > Kent Carter, Director of the National Archives, Southwest Region, > presided at the meeting.> > > >...someone asked Mr. Carter if this space planning would become a > political thing, and his reply was simply 'Yes.' This means that those > of use who wish to retain the archives must contact governors, > senators, and representatives who can use their power to help us. The > employees of the Archives cannot do this. WE must do it.< > > Another interesting point was made: > > >I missed the name of the representative of the local > Historical Society, but she wanted the group to know that > genealogists were not the only users of the Regional Archives. > She pointed out that she represented serious and scholarly people > whose books will not be written or published if these records are > moved away. While genealogists make up most of the customers of > the Archives, there are people in a number of other fields who > use the records here.< > > Again, the points made at the meeting were very interesting, so check > out the NARA URL at Ancestry to read all of it. > > > For FT. Worth: > http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/clay.htm > > > For General Discussion and other Meeting Dates: > http://www.ancestry.com/nara.htm > > LCranston > > > > > > > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Family Workings: http://www.familyworkings.com > > A site to help researchers break through those brickwalls.  Lots of links, > subcatagorized, ancestor queries, tips, and cemetary research.  Looking for > research donations of: Cemetaries, obits, volunteer researchers, and > anything else that may be of interest to other researchers.  Submit links, > ancestor queries and tips. Check it out > > > > > > > >

Let's not forget the boxer who names all his sons (I think there are 5) after himself. GEORGE I also believe he has a daughter named Georgina

I am not sure about the medals, however, you could try the National Personnel Records Center, 9700 Page Blvd, St. Louis, MO 63132. It seems to me there is a charge if the request is from someone other than the person who is entitled to it, plus I think you also need to be able to prove they are entitled to it. However, from the sound of your e-mail it appears you may already know which medals your relative is entitled to. If this is the case, those medals then could be purchased at a military collectibles type store or a surplus store that sells military type items. Sometimes even antique malls have them. Sadly I saw a Purple Heart and Bronze Star for sale in booth at a antique mall. I make shadow boxes of red oak and my medals are to be passed down to my youngest daughter who is in the Army now. George gebasden@worldnet.att.net http://www.basden.com ---------- > From: Scorpiomez@aol.com > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: WWII Medals > Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 10:27 PM > > Where do you write to get copies of your relative's war medals? > Is there a charge? > Thanks > scorpiomez@aol.com > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > To contact the GenTips list owner, use converse@alltel.net > > >

At this location: http://www.nara.gov you will find a program that will tell you waht the Soundex is for the name you entered

George, you forgot to mention that in order to buy anything military in Base Uniform stores and/or the Base Exchange you first must be a member of the military. Not everyone can just walk in and buy at those facilities. Tom

It is my understanding that your mother is correct. They do pray for the dead. Perhaps there are some Mormons out there which can tell us if that is true? ---MooZle <moozle@netdoor.com> wrote: > > My understanding of this is that Mormon's "seal" their families together for > eternity. I came across some of my family in the IGI that were sealed by a > Mormon relative back in the 1960's, even though they weren't of the Mormon > faith. It sort of made me mad because I thought this very presumptuous of that > relative to include families in their faith practice who might not and probably > did not want that done. I sure don't want it done with me because (without > getting into a religious debate here) I don't believe in this doctrine. > > --------------------------------------------------------- > >My mother seemed to think that the Mormons believed that they > >could pray dead relatives into heaven, and that's why they put all of their > >relatives in the IGI even the ones that were not Mormon. I don't know if this > >is right, but it seems logical to me that if you are a Mormon, and you are > >putting together your family tree, you would list all of your relatives. Even > >the Baptists and Lutherans, or else they would have big gaps in their family > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > To contact the GenTips list owner, use converse@alltel.net > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

I wanted also to find ot about townships and I contacted the site manager at gnis because i figured that town ships should also be mapped and he advised the following. in the name field make the following entry: """fayette, township of"""" in the type of feature, select """civil""" the quotations are mine. I tried it looking for a township in ohio and it worked like a charm. thhttp://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html hope it works for you. If you have problems, send me the township name and the state and I will do it for you .jack burke crescent city calif At 03:38 PM 6/19/98 -0500, Shabbyacre@aol.com wrote: >I am having trouble relating townships to counties.  So many times i run >across something that will just give the township.  Does anyone out there know >of a master list with county names that would show all townships within that >county.  I know that they have probably changed over the years but would find >it helpful to know that at least at sometime the particular township was in a >certain county of the state interested in. > >Thanks for any help or advice > >lila miller > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: >unsubscribe >To: >GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

The last FOI request I made was mailed on May 6, 1998. I received the copies yesterday, June 23, 1998. Not as quick as I would have liked, but not terrible either. Tom -----Original Message----- From: George G. Morgan <aha@gte.net> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 6:09 AM Subject: Re: Social Security applications >Just a comment about the response time from the SSA. I wrote a letter >requesting four (4) records for people whose SS#s I had. I sent the >letter and a check for $28 on February 12th. The cancelled check showed >up in THIS month's bank statement and I still have nothing. Perhaps the >information is on its way? Anyone want to make book on it? LOL I'm >not holding my breath that I'll see anything before Halloween. Hahaha! > >George Morgan

When the medals are listed on the DD-214, I have known individuals who sent a COPY of their DD-214 with their request to St. Louis and received them. They can also be purchased at a Military Clothing Sales Store or Base BX/PX if one is near your location. In later years, I believe they issued "orders" for the presentation of medals. Hope this helps a wee bit. George, you might want to comment on the "orders" - do you know when they began that practice and was it only in the Army or service-wide? Edna

In a message dated 6/24/98 3:15:48 PM Central Daylight Time, rejoice_f@rocketmail.com writes: << GenTips-L@rootsweb.com >> There are temple ordinances are to benefit deceased individuals. These ordinances aren't in the same manner as the prayers Catholics have for the dead. Karen

Hi folks, good day to you all. I am sending this to the list just in case anyone else is interested. "Cheers" Gloria Daum ---------- > From: Gloria Daum <glodaum@sprynet.com> > To: jbrissee@execpc.com > Subject: HISTORY OF BELOIT > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 10:49 AM > > Hello, > > Would it be possible for someone in your Gen. Society to provide me with > information regarding the town of Beloit, Wisc. I am interested in the > history of its founding. I read in a Rand-McNally > Atlas that the entire town moved from the New England area enmass to > establish itself in Wisc., but I know nothing of the details. > > I have family ancestry in the area dating from 1850's by name of GUILE/GILE > and FRANCIS. > The GUILE/GILE family came from Gainesville, Wyoming Co., N.Y. > > I would greatly appreciate this information...as would others, I am sure. > > Best Wishes and > Thank you, Gloria Daum > Encinitas, San Diego Co., Calif.

Look for the records of a county in the courthouse that had jurisdiction at the time of the event (the parent county). Because many records were recorded into books, there wouldn't be a way of taking records from just one area of the county over to the new county. There can be some exceptions for finding things in the parent county. Marriage records may have occurred over the county line if one county seat was closer than the parent county seat. So look not in the new or in the parent county, but in the surrounding original counties if you've got someone whose marriage you can't find. (This may even occur in a different state, if you're looking at a county that is a border county.) Karen

Is there anyone out there that could help me find a tombstone for Henry Herman Timken, last known address back in the 1960's was Spokan, WA. Or could someone tell me how to go about find it myself. I am very new at the Internet, but I would try if I knew where to begin. Lois

In a message dated 6/24/98 8:21:06 AM, mcollins@sfths.sft434.k12.ks.us wrote: <<If, for instance, you find your people in Clark CO. AR. in ,just say 1850, but that part of Clark CO. becomes Ouchita county in 1855, What county would the records from 1850 reside in? Clark, or Ouchita? Thanks Marcia Moore Collins>> Marcia and GenTippers, Assume that the records would remain with the jurisdiction that created the records. (I can think of no exceptions to this but there probably are a few.) This is why the "Dollarhide" book is so important. Thorndale, W., and Dollarhide, W. "Map Guide to the U.S. Federal Censuses, 1790 -1920". Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., (1997), ISBN 0-8063-1188-6 Ralph Komives RalphK@aol.com http://members.aol.com/RalphK/DocumentSearch.html Document Searches in Washington, D.C. Area and Annapolis, MD. Problem searches and Common Names a specialty. Research at: DAR Library, National Archives, Library of Congress, MD State Archives

This leads to MY question George and all, If, for instance, you find your people in Clark CO. AR. in ,just say 1850, but that part of Clark CO. becomes Ouchita county in 1855, What county would the records from 1850 reside in? Clark, or Ouchita? Thanks Marcia Moore Collins

Hi Chris and All Tippers! I use my handy rand-McNally Road Atlas to locate current counties. Be careful, however. There have been many county boundary changes over these last several hundred years. I use the Rand-McNally for current locations but then refer to Thorndale & Dollahide's great book with maps for every Federal census year for every state. It shows both current and "then" county boundaries. It is an invaluable help when researching older records. Save yourself the wasted time and frustration of researching in or writing to the WRONG courthouse. Check the maps. :-) Happy hunting! George G. Morgan Chris Powles (by way of Genealogy Records Service ) wrote: > > When search acertain area of a state I use a faithful State Travel map it > shows > counties and give me state info that can be quite helpful right I have SC>TX > &AL > posted on the wall next to the keyboard. It comes in handie quite often, when > doing census work and you have no idea where this place is at also alot old > maps > are available on the net and can give you a visual where nothing else can > also > a > site to help find a town is avaiable but I'm having trouble with the url at > the > moment will post that later when I figure it out Paula AndrewsPowles > > by way of Genealogy Records Service wrote: > > > I am having trouble relating townships to counties. So many times i run > > across something that will just give the township. Does anyone out there > know > > of a master list with county names that would show all townships within that > > county. I know that they have probably changed over the years but would > find > > it helpful to know that at least at sometime the particular township was > in a > > certain county of the state interested in. > > > > Thanks for any help or advice > > > > lila miller > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > > unsubscribe > > To: > > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: > http://www.rootsweb.com

Just a comment about the response time from the SSA. I wrote a letter requesting four (4) records for people whose SS#s I had. I sent the letter and a check for $28 on February 12th. The cancelled check showed up in THIS month's bank statement and I still have nothing. Perhaps the information is on its way? Anyone want to make book on it? LOL I'm not holding my breath that I'll see anything before Halloween. Hahaha! George Morgan by way of Genealogy Records Service wrote: > > In answer to the question. What can I find out with a SS#? If you write to: > Social Security Adm. > Office of Central Records Operation > 300 N. Greene Street > Baltimore, MD 21201 > Ask for a Third Party Request for Photocopy - > When you get the form send it with the fee (I think its $2.00) > You will get a copy of your ancestors application for a SS# - It has a lot of > info, like parents name, birth date and death date and place of birth and > death of applicant. > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work!

Mecklenburg Co., 1870 Census Boydton Township Part 2 is now on line at http://www.rootsweb.com/~vameckle/index.htm If you see any errors please report to rodey@kerrlake.com -- Searching for RODENHIZER-PA, MD, VA & NC, GREEN(E)-RI, NY, AMMONETTE-VA, MORRISEY-NY, HILL-NC,VA, BURCH-VA, CATE(S)-NC,VA, PULLY-NC, VA, HAMNER-VA,NC and CRAFT-VA. http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/o/d/Bernard-C-Rodenhizer http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/3253 http://www.rootsweb.com/~vameckle/index.htm rodey@kerrlake.com Mecklenburg Co., VA

Dear Whomever There is a site on the net for Arkansas that gives the Counties from start of state and how they were divided up as the state became populated. I don't recall the site but a search should find it. It has a lot of useful information George in Tulsa