At 10:24 PM 6/24/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hello Folks, >There are several achives around the country which are being proposed >for closing or moving to another site.  One such is the one at FT. >Worth, TX which is being considered for being moved to GA.  This, of >course, would be great for the folks in GA, but would be a tradegy for >North Texans who have no other source other than the Dallas Public >Library for extensive genealogical research.  That's not to down-play >the part that other libraries play in providing gen. research, but the >Archives are a MAJOR source of information. >> Shadow, I understand how this is a concern to you, given where you live and the value of the archive records.   And I do respect your concerns, to the degree that they reflect your own (personally valid) needs. However, I have to tell you something -- assuming that these materials are transferred to the same facility (or someplace else in the metro Atlanta area), the news about the transfer is the Best News I Have Heard All Day! True, it will be a loss to those individuals who live in Texas.   However, for many others of us, consolidating more records in a single place (or at least a single city) can save us thousands of travel and research dollars and speed up our research considerably. Most of my family's branches have spent the last two hundred years floating between the states of Louisiana and Mississippi.  Some of them migrated into these states from Maryland, others from Virginia, others through the Carolinas.  But the point is that by 1800, they were settled down in these two states, frequently moving across the border from one state to the other. The problem I have faced is that most Louisiana records are currently kept in Fort Worth, while most Mississippi records are kept in Atlanta.   So while the actual geographic area that they migrated around in was never more than a couple of hundred miles distance from the farthest points, their records are kept in two cities that are so far distant from one another.  My husband and I do not live near either Fort Worth or Atlanta, and have to use our vacation time to do research.  If we get a great research lead in the Atlanta records during a first year of research, we may have to wait until the next year to follow it up in Fort Worth.   Then if we get another lead in Fort Worth during that second year, we have to wait until yet a third year  before we can follow that new lead up in Atlanta....   How nice it would be to find a lead in the records currently held in Atlanta, and then just go to another part of the building (or even just drive across town) to follow it up in the records that would be transferred from Fort Worth.  And then, if examining the transferred records we find a hot new lead, just head back to the part of the building (or town) that houses the current Atlanta records to follow it through... Three (or more) years of research, compacted into one slightly longer trip to a single archive in a single year's vacation...    :) So, although I understand and respect where you are coming from, Yippie Skippie!    Move 'um ALL to Atlanta! -- Colleen

they should be in county the event happened.  for instance all records for 1850 1855 would be clark co.  after 1855 they would be in Ouchita county. another example:  baldwin co alabama (largest co east of the miss river) extended originally from present day missisiippi state line to big escambia rive east.  baldwin co affected escambia, monroe, clark, washington and mobile counties.  it was originally part of mississippi territory.  it was also claimed by france, spain, england and the US. depending on the timeline that is where the records would be. marcia collins wrote: > > This leads to MY question George and all, > > If, for instance, you find your people in Clark CO. AR. in ,just say 1850, > but that part of Clark CO. becomes Ouchita county in 1855, What county would > the records from 1850 reside in? Clark, or Ouchita? > Thanks > Marcia Moore Collins > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Family Workings: <http://www.familyworkings.com/>http://www.familyworkings.com > > A site to help researchers break through those brickwalls.  Lots of links, > subcatagorized, ancestor queries, tips, and cemetary research.  Looking for > research donations of: Cemetaries, obits, volunteer researchers, and > anything else that may be of interest to other researchers.  Submit links, > ancestor queries and tips. Check it out

I agree, what started out as a question has just gone on, and on , and on ...I don't believe it was ever supposed, or intended to do this...lets get back to diggin guys! Marcia -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Maddox <elainetm@worldnet.att.net> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 4:05 PM Subject: Re: IGI-Why non Mormons named >I'm Roman Catholic and we pray for the dead. Why is this thread on >a genealogy board? > >rejoice wrote: > >> It is my understanding that your mother is correct. >> They do pray for the dead. Perhaps there are some >> Mormons out there which can tell us if that is true? >> >> ---MooZle <moozle@netdoor.com> wrote: >> > >> > My understanding of this is that Mormon's "seal" >> their families together for >> > eternity. I came across some of my family in the >> IGI that were sealed by a >> > Mormon relative back in the 1960's, even though >> they weren't of the Mormon >> > faith. It sort of made me mad because I thought >> this very presumptuous of that >> > relative to include families in their faith >> practice who might not and probably >> > did not want that done. I sure don't want it done >> with me because (without >> > getting into a religious debate here) I don't >> believe in this doctrine. >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> > >My mother seemed to think that the Mormons >> believed that they >> > >could pray dead relatives into heaven, and that's >> why they put all of their >> > >relatives in the IGI even the ones that were not >> Mormon. I don't know if this >> > >is right, but it seems logical to me that if you >> are a Mormon, and you are >> > >putting together your family tree, you would list >> all of your relatives. Even >> > >the Baptists and Lutherans, or else they would >> have big gaps in their family >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >> > To contact the GenTips list owner, use >> converse@alltel.net >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> DO YOU YAHOO!? >> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >> If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: >> unsubscribe >> To: >> GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >> DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! > > > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: >http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > >

I'm Roman Catholic and we pray for the dead. Why is this thread on a genealogy board? rejoice wrote: > It is my understanding that your mother is correct. > They do pray for the dead. Perhaps there are some > Mormons out there which can tell us if that is true? > > ---MooZle <moozle@netdoor.com> wrote: > > > > My understanding of this is that Mormon's "seal" > their families together for > > eternity. I came across some of my family in the > IGI that were sealed by a > > Mormon relative back in the 1960's, even though > they weren't of the Mormon > > faith. It sort of made me mad because I thought > this very presumptuous of that > > relative to include families in their faith > practice who might not and probably > > did not want that done. I sure don't want it done > with me because (without > > getting into a religious debate here) I don't > believe in this doctrine. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > >My mother seemed to think that the Mormons > believed that they > > >could pray dead relatives into heaven, and that's > why they put all of their > > >relatives in the IGI even the ones that were not > Mormon. I don't know if this > > >is right, but it seems logical to me that if you > are a Mormon, and you are > > >putting together your family tree, you would list > all of your relatives. Even > > >the Baptists and Lutherans, or else they would > have big gaps in their family > > > > > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > > To contact the GenTips list owner, use > converse@alltel.net > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work!

Hello Folks, There are several achives around the country which are being proposed for closing or moving to another site. One such is the one at FT. Worth, TX which is being considered for being moved to GA. This, of course, would be great for the folks in GA, but would be a tradegy for North Texans who have no other source other than the Dallas Public Library for extensive genealogical research. That's not to down-play the part that other libraries play in providing gen. research, but the Archives are a MAJOR source of information. As a follow-up to the closing of the FT. Worth Archives, a friend sent me an up-date on the meeting to discuss the closing. It is very long, so I am just giving you the URL where you can go to get the latest update. The main point made I am copying for you below as I think it is something we all need to know----write, write, write the powers that be: >Richard Claypoole, Assistant Archivist for Regional Records Services, and Stephen Hannestad, Head of the Space and Security Management Division, came to Ft. Worth on June 10 to hold a public meeting concerning the future of the National Archives, Southwest Region in Ft. Worth, and the possible closing and/or consolidation of various regional branches of the National Archives. Kent Carter, Director of the National Archives, Southwest Region, presided at the meeting.> >...someone asked Mr. Carter if this space planning would become a political thing, and his reply was simply 'Yes.' This means that those of use who wish to retain the archives must contact governors, senators, and representatives who can use their power to help us. The employees of the Archives cannot do this. WE must do it.< Another interesting point was made: >I missed the name of the representative of the local Historical Society, but she wanted the group to know that genealogists were not the only users of the Regional Archives. She pointed out that she represented serious and scholarly people whose books will not be written or published if these records are moved away. While genealogists make up most of the customers of the Archives, there are people in a number of other fields who use the records here.< Again, the points made at the meeting were very interesting, so check out the NARA URL at Ancestry to read all of it. For FT. Worth: http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/clay.htm For General Discussion and other Meeting Dates: http://www.ancestry.com/nara.htm LCranston

Hi, Thank you , I think It must not have worded this very well, I was wondering if there is a site that I could use the soundex code on, that way having a list of film numbers ect,. that I then could give to someone who is going to salt lake, and if I have a list of exaclty what I want, the number ect. will then look for my record. thanks for everyones help marcia -----Original Message----- From: Pamela Johnson <pamelaaj@ix.netcom.com> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 12:58 PM Subject: RE: SOUNDEX >Marcia, > >I found the soundex codes in my PAF manual. >to quote: >"The first letter of the name is not changed, the rest of the code is numberic. >the letters a,e,i,o, h,w,y are not coded. >codes: 1 - b,f,p,v > 2 - c,g,j,k,q,s,x,z > 3 - d, t > 4 - L > 5 - m,n > 6 - r >double letters are coded as one. If the name doesn't have enough letters to make 3 digits following the initial letter, zeros will be added (Kelly = K400). When 3 digits are reached, no further letters are coded. " > >So we can determine soundex codes for any name in existence, I would think. > >Pam J > > > >---------- >From: marcia collins[SMTP:mcollins@sfths.sft434.k12.ks.us] >Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 7:42 PM >To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: SOUNDEX > >Hello all, >Does ANYONE know of a site that I can get a list of the soundex entries to >print out ? I need to send sounddex entries to someone, and I cannot find a >site, I find sites that explaind soundex, give me the soundex coed for name, >ect, but I CAN:T find a list of soundex entries?! >thanks >marcia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: >unsubscribe >To: >GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! > > > > > > > > > > >

George, thanks for that idea. In the back of my American Legion magazines are companies that can also furnish them. I will dig it out and post a couple of the names and phone numbers for these vendors tomorrow. By the way folks, I believe it is unlawful to buy/sell a Medal of Honor and rightfully so. George gebasden@worldnet.att.net http://www.basden.com ---------- > From: George Rogers <georog@mis.net> > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Military Medals > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 8:00 PM > > If you are not near a military base try this website: > > http://beseen.net/military-medals/medals.htm > > I suppose this tip will get me flamed for promoting a > commercial site but it may help someone so willing to take > the heat. > > -- > George Rogers > georog@mis.net > http://www.users.mis.net/~georog/Index.html (Genealogical > Brick Walls) > http://www.wp.com/georog/georog.htm (Personal Home Page) > http://wwp.mirabilis.com/9577023 (Try it, you'll like it) > > Searching for ROGERS (NY), HARRIS (NY, PA), PERKINS (NY, KY) > > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Because they could lose their job by doing so. The Coast Guard is the only military agency that will allow its CIVILIAN WORKERS with a Coast Guard ID card to use its exchange. The other services only allow military, their dependents, retirees and reservists to use their exchanges. George gebasden@worldnet.att.net http://www.basden.com ---------- > From: George Rogers <georog@mis.net> > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Military Medals > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 7:43 PM > > Real people work there. Why would they turn away a grandson(daughter) with a positive attitude of > a vet with a wrinkled DD 214? > > Memepappap@aol.com wrote: > > > George, you forgot to mention that in order to buy anything military in Base > > Uniform stores and/or the Base Exchange you first must be a member of the > > military. Not everyone can just walk in and buy at those facilities. > > > > Tom > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > > Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > -- > George Rogers > georog@mis.net > http://www.users.mis.net/~georog/Index.html (Genealogical Brick Walls) > http://www.wp.com/georog/georog.htm (Personal Home Page) > http://wwp.mirabilis.com/9577023 (Try it, you'll like it) > > Searching for ROGERS (NY), HARRIS (NY, PA), PERKINS (NY, KY) > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to stop by our business web page for FREE genealogy forms and charts! We are adding more all the time!!!! > http://www.genrecords.com > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Tom: I did when I said the individual must have a military ID card or dependents ID card. Remember, this covers active duty personnel, reservists and retirees as these are the only personnel authorized a military ID which of course is different from a Government ID card. George gebasden@worldnet.att.net http://www.basden.com ---------- > From: Memepappap@aol.com > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Military Medals > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 7:16 PM > > George, you forgot to mention that in order to buy anything military in Base > Uniform stores and/or the Base Exchange you first must be a member of the > military. Not everyone can just walk in and buy at those facilities. > > > > Tom > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > >

Hi.. Help! Trying to upload ancestors pics, names an dates...I did one of those free websites which allows for a picture to be uploaded. The pic was scanned and cropped...it was just right, BUT when I tryed to upload it, got a message saying i.explorer couldn't do that, would have to use FTP. After looking at all those instructions, I was lost. Then I tryed to use netscape which had the button to click on to upload. NOW, it wouldn't work either. Message was something about my software wouldn't allow me to upload the scanned file.... Used Image Wave Scanner by storm, E-Z photo launch pad... The quality of the scans are very good... Can someone give me some suggestions here...............thanks.........Mary

Hello all, I have been following this thread with some interest as I am putting together a shadow box of my G-grandfather's military experience as a gift for my dad, his namesake. I knew that it would be next to impossible to determine what happened to G-grandpa Albin's medals from WWI, so I am using his 201 file (personnel record from National Personnel Records Center) to determine which medals he received and am ordering these medals from Medals of America, Fountain Inn, SC. You can also visit their website at www.usmedals.com and email them for a catalog. I did and have enjoyed browsing through and learning more about the medals, shadow boxes, etc.They also have medals from the "early period" such as Civil War, etc. Hope someone else gets some help from this. Of course, here is the usual disclaimer. I don't have any connection to this company nor am I receiving any benefits for this notice. Anna M. (ORY) Langley alangley@hiwaay.net

Hello all, Does ANYONE know of a site that I can get a list of the soundex entries to print out ? I need to send sounddex entries to someone, and I cannot find a site, I find sites that explaind soundex, give me the soundex coed for name, ect, but I CAN:T find a list of soundex entries?! thanks marcia

Lila: Where and when did your grandmother die? Pat ---------- > From: LMiller865@aol.com > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: potters field > Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 7:36 PM > > I have been searching for my grandmothers death records for about a year and > have just about searched out.

If you are not near a military base try this website: http://beseen.net/military-medals/medals.htm I suppose this tip will get me flamed for promoting a commercial site but it may help someone so willing to take the heat. -- George Rogers georog@mis.net http://www.users.mis.net/~georog/Index.html (Genealogical Brick Walls) http://www.wp.com/georog/georog.htm (Personal Home Page) http://wwp.mirabilis.com/9577023 (Try it, you'll like it) Searching for ROGERS (NY), HARRIS (NY, PA), PERKINS (NY, KY)

Marcia, I found the soundex codes in my PAF manual. to quote: "The first letter of the name is not changed, the rest of the code is numberic. the letters a,e,i,o, h,w,y are not coded. codes: 1 - b,f,p,v 2 - c,g,j,k,q,s,x,z 3 - d, t 4 - L 5 - m,n 6 - r double letters are coded as one. If the name doesn't have enough letters to make 3 digits following the initial letter, zeros will be added (Kelly = K400). When 3 digits are reached, no further letters are coded. " So we can determine soundex codes for any name in existence, I would think. Pam J ---------- From: marcia collins[SMTP:mcollins@sfths.sft434.k12.ks.us] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 7:42 PM To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com Subject: SOUNDEX Hello all, Does ANYONE know of a site that I can get a list of the soundex entries to print out ? I need to send sounddex entries to someone, and I cannot find a site, I find sites that explaind soundex, give me the soundex coed for name, ect, but I CAN:T find a list of soundex entries?! thanks marcia

Real people work there. Why would they turn away a grandson(daughter) with a positive attitude of a vet with a wrinkled DD 214? Memepappap@aol.com wrote: > George, you forgot to mention that in order to buy anything military in Base > Uniform stores and/or the Base Exchange you first must be a member of the > military. Not everyone can just walk in and buy at those facilities. > > Tom > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: > http://www.rootsweb.com -- George Rogers georog@mis.net http://www.users.mis.net/~georog/Index.html (Genealogical Brick Walls) http://www.wp.com/georog/georog.htm (Personal Home Page) http://wwp.mirabilis.com/9577023 (Try it, you'll like it) Searching for ROGERS (NY), HARRIS (NY, PA), PERKINS (NY, KY)

Edna: I know the Army issued orders for medals DEPENDING upon the medal. Not all medals were issued with a set of orders Example, my Vietnam Service, Vietnam Campaign and National Defense Medals were issued with orders. My Good Conduct, Joint Service Commendation and Bronze Star were issued with orders. As far as the other branches, I have not seen where the Coast Guard issues orders. They like the Army, issue a citation. The Army takes it further and issues an order. But like the Army, not all medals in the Coast Guard are issued with "citations" As far as being able to use the military clothing sales stores or Base Exchange stores, everyone should note that if they do not have a military or dependent ID card, they cannot use the exchanges. The FASTEST means is your local civilian military surplus store or military collectible store. George gebasden@worldnet.att.net http://www.basden.com ---------- > From: EWhite2018@aol.com > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: WWII Medals > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 5:22 PM > > When the medals are listed on the DD-214, I have known individuals who sent a > COPY of their DD-214 with their request to St. Louis and received them. They > can also be purchased at a Military Clothing Sales Store or Base BX/PX if one > is near your location. In later years, I believe they issued "orders" for the > presentation of medals. Hope this helps a wee bit. > > George, you might want to comment on the "orders" - do you know when they > began that practice and was it only in the Army or service-wide? > > Edna > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I have updated my obit page through June 20, 1998. These are from my local paper, The Olympian, from Olympia, Washington state. Let me know if you get any hits. Lorie <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3273/">loriew's Home Page Genealogy Researh SCHWIESOW WHARTON CAINES KAWELMACHER BOOKS</A> Maybe your part of my Family Tree!!! /\ / \ / \ /------\ | Visit my homepages to find out. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3273 http://angelfire.com/wa/LoriesHomePage

You can purchase uniform items including medals at any military base uniform center (PX) or write or phone the Uniform Support Center, 1545 Crossways Blvd., Suite 200, Chesapeake, VA 23320; CONUS (800) 368-4088; Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands (800) 368-4089. -- George Rogers georog@mis.net

Let's not forget the boxer who names all his sons (I think there are 5) after himself. GEORGE ---OmahaMom@aol.com wrote: > > I was asked about Irish naming patterns after posting a note about Scottish > naming patterns and so referred the question to a friend who's an expert Irish > researcher with years of experience in Ireland & N Ireland. Here's her reply > for those who are interested. > Karen > > "Although occasionally individual families had naming patterns of their own, > the Irish generally do not. Of course, an exception is the Scots Irish of > the North who frequently follow the naming customs of their Scottish > ancestors." Carol Burdick Davidson, Irish researcher > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com