This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_898875480_boundary Content-ID: <0_898875480@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sorry about not having the name of my friends grandfather - I now have it - William Henry Stolz. All she knows is that he traveled all over the world building the bridges, she remembers that he worked for the US gov. and he retired in California. Her father was born in 1919, so his father probably was in the Iron Workers Union that many of you have suggested. We're going to check that out. Thank you all for your wonderful answers. My friend was amazed at the response. Janene --part0_898875480_boundary Content-ID: <0_898875480@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <E-Kaspar@ecom.ecn.bgu.edu> Received: from rly-zc03.mx.aol.com (rly-zc03.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.3]) by air-zc02.mail.aol.com (v45.8) with SMTP; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:49:53 -0400 Received: from dialup0.macomb.com (dialup0.macomb.com [199.120.118.4]) by rly-zc03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id OAA14704 for <JaneneSM@aol.com>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:49:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ecom.ecn.bgu.edu (port26.dialup1.macomb.com [199.120.118.107]) by dialup0.macomb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20436 for <JaneneSM@aol.com>; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:49:46 -0500 Message-ID: <35929B82.AB42CEDA@ecom.ecn.bgu.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:48:34 -0500 From: " E.A. Kaspar" <E-Kaspar@ecom.ecn.bgu.edu> Reply-To: E-Kaspar@wiu.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) To: JaneneSM@aol.com Subject: Re: Bridgebuilders information References: <7148d87e.35929538@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit You need to post his name too in case people have him in their database. For example, I have a bridgebuilder in my data, Martin Baker Stone from CA. built bridges in S.A., and his wife divorced him and returned to CA. with their daughter. I have no idea what happened to her--- females are hard to trace. He remained in Chili and remarried. Now I have relatives all over S.A.! Elizabeth JaneneSM@aol.com wrote: > I'm helping a friend try and find out information about her grandfather. He > built bridges all around the world. He was divorced from her grandmother who > didn't want to talk about him. When he retired the retirement home he live in > had a fire and his personal effects were burned. Does anyone know of anyplace > we might be able to find out about bridge builders? She thinks he was called > an iron worker. Thanks. Janene > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to stop by our business web page for FREE genealogy forms and charts! We are adding more all the time!!!! > http://www.genrecords.com --part0_898875480_boundary--

Hi Colleen, Well, if you want them all in one place, I don't mind them moving all the records to Texas! :) Really, it is nice to hear the "other side of the coin." LCranston

Hi all, I figured this might be a better link than the previous I just gave for Tennessee. Here's the direct URL for the "Tennessee Library and Archives". <A HREF="http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/tslahome.htm"> http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/tslahome.htm</A> Success in searching, Patty Smith Tuffsearch@aol.com •~•~•~>Visit My Genealogy Links Page<~•~•~• Tuffsearch's Ancestors' Attic http://members.aol.com/Tuffsearch/Genealogy links.html •~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•

Hi Joyce, et.al. I'm not sure if this will help you, but try: http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/pubsvs/countypg.htm Success in searching, Patty Smith Tuffsearch@aol.com •~•~•~>Visit My Genealogy Links Page<~•~•~• Tuffsearch's Ancestors' Attic http://members.aol.com/Tuffsearch/Genealogy links.html •~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~• In a message dated 06/26/98 9:08:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, info@buyersmarketplace.com writes: << >Have been trying to locate website of The Tennessee State Archives. >Have not had any luck, need help! >Where did it go? >joyce >>

In a message dated 6/25/98 6:32:24 AM, Sherri Hessick wrote: <<I recently received the pension file for one of my Civil War veterans. I have a couple of questions: *******snip****** There was no enlistment form in the packet sent to me. Just the pension declarations and the disability discharge. Is that normal? *******snip****** is there more to the pension file and I asked for the wrong thing or is there another record I need to request? Thank you for your assistance. Sherri Hessick thessick@flash.net>> Sherri and GenTippers, You have asked may specific questions that may be hard to answer with certainty. Each Pension Application will contain different material. The smallest will contain a statement from the soldier and a service report from some military department. Because most all pension application are for invalid disability, widow of minor children there also will be several depositions concerning illness or need. The smallest pension application that I have seen contained about eight actual documents. Even a small packet may contain information about place of enlistment, marriage (s) or other family members. The largest Pension Application file that I have seen was greatly in excess of 200 pages. It involved a soldier who had several wives all making widow(s) application at the same time. Another contained a tintype photo of the soldier's mangled hand as proof of wartime injury. Occasionally they contain enlistment papers or discharge papers but not always. I have never seen evidence of naturalization although that is not improbable. The Pension File I was working on yesterday contained about 200 pages and is filled with epic movie content, complete with a hand written personal story of being in battle of "Little Round Top" at Gettysburg. Pension applications are always potential bonanzas of genealogical information, but not always. About the only thing that can be said is that unless you specifically requested to have the entire file copied it wasn't. Below I include and excerpt from my web site. There is also a page, at the same site, on naturalization records. *************** Veterans Records, use NATF Form 80 Certain military records, pension files and bounty-land applications can be requested with this form. One file for one person will cost about $10.00. You must provide them with as much information as possible. The minimum is: name, branch of service, state from which he served, war, whether union or confederate. Additional information: such as unit in which he served and place and date of birth, certainly would insure a favorable result. If your soldier was named Jones or Smith you should have very detailed information before requesting the file. They, in general, will not do research for you. Often they will not photo copy the entirety of a large file unless you make a specific request. *************** Good luck with your search, one step at a time, backwards. Ralph Komives RalphK@aol.com http://members.aol.com/RalphK/DocumentSearch.html Document Searches in Washington, D.C. Area and Annapolis, MD. Problem searches and Common Names a specialty. Research at: DAR Library, National Archives, Library of Congress, MD State Archives

IT IS 11:37 PM where I am at, and I now have a total of 12 letters regarding my Thank you to CATHY....first let me tell you I DID mean to send a thank you to the list....IT WAS AN ERROR that I did not erase the balance of the message...SORRY! I sent an open THANK YOU because she went to quite a bit of work to make sure it was okay for her to send this letter....I had asked her to after she had sent it to me privately. It was full of wonderful information. She had not wanted to at first, as it was written and copied from other sources,. I Thot many of us could benefit from it.! Many , Many people contribute to this, and other list, that's what makes them successful, but people need to know they are appreciated, or this list could well dry up, as others have and are doing now! I did not just fall off the turnip wagon, I know to erase the remainder of a replied to message..I SCREWED UP!!! SORRY. BUT , I have had ALL the letters telling me about it that I care to have! If the same ones that wrote to me would look at how many people who used to contribute have STOPPED, you would see that many times, if you had waited to see if something that bothered you was a repeated pattern , or just an oversight BEFORE you jump on the bandwagon and either hurt feelings or really torque someone off, you may be the recipient of that one piece of inf. you have been ready to die for! That's all I have to say, Perhaps this is not genealogy, but enough is enough! Thank you Marcia Moore Collins http://www.angelfire.com/ks/windshipgenhelp/

Try this web site. It is for asking questions about the Family Tree Maker. Subscribe to it. I get mine in digest form and I look for what I am interested in and then delete the rest. It's worth trying. Family Tree Maker Support <ftm-l@lists.best.com> -- Joanne Moore Researching: Eickert/Eickest, Franz, Gienau, Hausch, Kestner, Kusher, Rieve, Waltens, and Urban, all from Brooklyn and Queens, New York Eickert/Eickest, Rieve, Gienau Hausch, and Kusher, are also from Germany or Austria.

I must have missed that posting. What is "Source Guide". Can someone explain it to me? Thanks. -- Joanne Moore Researching: Eickert/Eickest, Franz, Gienau, Hausch, Kestner, Kusher, Rieve, Waltens, and Urban, all from Brooklyn and Queens, New York Eickert/Eickest, Rieve, Gienau Hausch, and Kusher, are also from Germany or Austria.

I, for one, would research this name a little more before I would put it in my research. You may want to try and get a death certificate and see if the parents match up. Or try the census. -- Joanne Moore Researching: Eickert/Eickest, Franz, Gienau, Hausch, Kestner, Kusher, Rieve, Waltens, and Urban, all from Brooklyn and Queens, New York Eickert/Eickest, Rieve, Gienau Hausch, and Kusher, are also from Germany or Austria.

Judy: I purchased an Epson Color Scanner last year and I just love it. The program is simple to use and it comes with a program that you use to edit the picture. Right now, it's late, and I can't remember the program. I will remember it about 3:00 a.m.. I just love it. I've already scanned old pictures of ancestors into my FTM program to start a family history book. I'm sure that there will be other people answering your questions with other suggestions. The only good suggestion I can give you is to shop around and ask a whole lot of questions. Let them show you how to use it and look at the user's guide book and see if you can understand the instructions. If you are not comfortable with it, don't buy it. Get a scanner that you can use and be comfortable with. -- Joanne Moore Researching: Eickert/Eickest, Franz, Gienau, Hausch, Kestner, Kusher, Rieve, Waltens, and Urban, all from Brooklyn and Queens, New York Eickert/Eickest, Rieve, Gienau Hausch, and Kusher, are also from Germany or Austria.

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Judy ... Can we at least <<G>> a little ?? d g hamby wrote: > > Now don't laugh you guys - I shut down my computer and the problem corrected > itself! My face is red. > Judy > -----Original Message----- > From: d g hamby <

The "Source Guide" is a CD put together and distributed by the LDS church for use by genealogists all over the world. It contains : -- Research outlines that describe types of records in countries, states, and provinces around the worlds --Guides for doing family history research --Resource guides describing the contents and uses of Family Search files (Ancestrial File, IGI, FHC Catalogue, etc.) and other information sources --Historical maps of selected areas --Letter writing guides for some non-English-speaking countries --Word lists of English translations of foreign language words --Forms and census work sheets --Addresses of major Family History Centers in the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, The British Isles, and Europe. --And much more The Source Guide CD can be purchased from the LDS Distribution Center in Salt Lake City. The cost is $20. Their toll free number is 1 800 537-5971. Julee >Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 01:00:33 -0500 >From: Joanne Moore <jlmoore@airmail.net> >Reply-To: jlmoore@airmail.net >To: > "Julee Cook (by way of Genealogy Records Service <info@genrecords.com>)" <juleecook@hotmail.com> >CC: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Correction > >I must have missed that posting. What is "Source Guide". Can someone >explain it to me? > >Thanks. > >-- >Joanne Moore >Researching: Eickert/Eickest, Franz, Gienau, Hausch, >Kestner, Kusher, Rieve, Waltens, and Urban, all >from Brooklyn and Queens, New York >Eickert/Eickest, Rieve, Gienau Hausch, and Kusher, >are also from Germany or Austria. > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

You are unable to read a message (although it may still be listed in your mailbox) after X-number of days on AOL. AOL is firm about it and the messages are not available for retrieval. They are gone. You may want to ask the AOL techs how many days you have to read the messages. If it is important to you, I suggest you save it to a file. Because it will disappear. This does not happen in Netscape with an ISP. Good luck. Elaine LMiller865@aol.com wrote: > I have been trying to read msg. from baymin@yahoo.com re: townships. > I keep getting " that mail is not currently available" Does anyone know why > and has anyone else experienced this? > > Researching > Gilman > Dodson > Coffman > Doebler > All from Williamsport Pa. early 1900s > > lila > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: > http://www.rootsweb.com

Now don't laugh you guys - I shut down my computer and the problem corrected itself! My face is red. Judy -----Original Message----- From: d g hamby <dhamby@twave.net> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, June 25, 1998 6:00 PM Subject: PROBLEM >Several of you have sent wonderful responses re my request for info on a >scanner. Thank you! > >But now I have a new problem. I installed Windows 98 earlier this >afternoon - no problems at all - however just a few minutes ago I tried to >"reply to author" on my e-mail program, Outlook Express, and the cursor >would NOT go to the beginning of the e-mail! It works just fine, of course, >to compose a message - does anyone have a clue what I may have done to cause >it NOT to let me reply? > >Judy >dhamby@twave.net > > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: >unsubscribe >To: >GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I just installed this program tonite on my Copmpaq. Now I am getting the message that my modem is not turned on. Checked settings, tried to re- install, etc..... Any thoughts? Bing

Several of you have sent wonderful responses re my request for info on a scanner. Thank you! But now I have a new problem. I installed Windows 98 earlier this afternoon - no problems at all - however just a few minutes ago I tried to "reply to author" on my e-mail program, Outlook Express, and the cursor would NOT go to the beginning of the e-mail! It works just fine, of course, to compose a message - does anyone have a clue what I may have done to cause it NOT to let me reply? Judy dhamby@twave.net

Hi. I am sure some of the computer techs here have a much better answer but I had the same problem you did and finally gave up. This year I decided to put my photo business on line and started out with software called AOLPress (free from AOL). You can download it. Well, I eventually decided the free space was not enough so I signed up for a web hosting service and purchase Front Page98. Either one of these programs will upload your jpeg file. Course, AOLPress is free while FP98 is not, but I find FP98 is easier to use. However, if you are only going to upload pictures for family sites and not for business, you can get by with the AOLPress. George gebasden@worldnet.att.net http://www.basden.com ---------- > From: Mj0520@aol.com > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: uploading ancestors names and pic to website... > Date: Thursday, June 25, 1998 1:47 AM > > Hi.. > > Help! Trying to upload ancestors pics, names an dates...I did one of those > free websites which allows for a picture to be uploaded. The pic was scanned > and cropped...it was just right, BUT when I tryed to upload it, got a message > saying i.explorer couldn't do that, would have to use FTP. After looking at > all those instructions, I was lost. > > Then I tryed to use netscape which had the button to click on to upload. NOW, > it wouldn't work either. Message was something about my software wouldn't > allow me to upload the scanned file.... Used Image Wave Scanner by storm, E-Z > photo launch pad... > The quality of the scans are very good... > > Can someone give me some suggestions here...............thanks.........Mary > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Family Workings: http://www.familyworkings.com > > A site to help researchers break through those brickwalls.  Lots of links, > subcatagorized, ancestor queries, tips, and cemetary research.  Looking for > research donations of: Cemetaries, obits, volunteer researchers, and > anything else that may be of interest to other researchers.  Submit links, > ancestor queries and tips. Check it out > > > > > > > >

I received an e-mail from an individual in records to a posting of military records that I made. This person's brother had died while serving in Vietnam. The below poem was forwarded to me a few months ago by a co-worker and I held onto it. I realize it is not genealogy related, but in memory of that person's brother and the other 58,000 plus names on the wall, I post it here now in dedication to my fellow brother and sister Vietnam Veterans. This will bring tears. George gebasden@worldnet.att.net http://www.basden.com > > If you've ever seen the painting "Reflections" of the Vietnam Wall in > > Washington, you've seen the man standing there with his hand on the > > wall, mourning his dead father or brother who was killed. What he > > doesn't see is the reflection from the other side showing that > > relative with HIS hand on the wall, touching the hand of his survivor. > > That painting inspired this story. > > > > FROM THE OTHER SIDE > > By Patrick Camunes > > > > "There are so many things that are written about the Wall but never > > anything of being on the other side. I was inspired by the picture > > Reflections that I use as wallpaper on my PC and a recent story, > > Autumn Wall." > > > > At first there was no place for us to go until someone put up that > > Black Granite Wall. Now, everyday and night, my Brothers and my > > Sisters wait to see the many people from places afar file in front of > > this Wall. Many stopping briefly and many for hours and some that > > come on a regular basis. It was hard at first, not that it's gotten > > any easier, but it seems that many of the attitudes towards that war > > that we were involved in have changed. I can only pray that the ones > > on the other side have learned something and more Walls as this one > > needn't be built. > > > > Several members of my unit and many that I did not recognize have > > called me to the Wall by touching my name that is engraved upon it. > > The tears aren't necessary but are hard even for me to hold back. > > Don't feel guilty for not being with me, my Brothers. This was my > > destiny as it is yours, to be on that side of the Wall. > > > > Touch the Wall, my Brothers, so that we can share in the memories that > > we had. I have learned to put the bad memories aside and remember > > only the pleasant times that we had together. Tell our other Brothers > > out there to come and visit me, not to say Good Bye but to say Hello > > and be together again, even for a short time and to ease that pain of > > loss that we all share. > > > > Today, an irresistible and loving call comes from the Wall. As I > > approach I can see an elderly lady and as I get closer I recognize > > her.......It's Momma! As much as I have looked forward to this day, I > > have also regretted it because I didn't know what reaction I would > > have. > > > > Next to her, I suddenly see my wife and immediately think how hard it > > must of been for her to come to this place and my mind floods with the > > pleasant memories of 30 years past. There's a young man in a military > > uniform standing with his arm around her......My God!......It's...it > > has to be my son. Look at him trying to be the man without a tear in > > his eye. I yearn to tell him how proud I am, seeing him standing > > tall, straight and proud in his uniform. > > > > Momma comes closer and touches the Wall and I feel the soft and gentle > > touch I had not felt in so many years. Dad has crossed to this side > > of the Wall and through our touch, I try to convey to her that Dad is > > doing fine and is no longer suffering or feeling pain. I see my > > wife's courage building as she sees Momma touch the Wall and she > > approaches and lays her hand on my waiting hand. All the emotions, > > feelings and memories of three decades past flash between our touch > > and I tell her that it's alright. Carry on with your life and don't > > worry about me......I can see as I look into her eyes that she hears > > and understands me and a big burden has been lifted from her. > > > > I watch as they lay flowers and other memories of my past. My lucky > > charm that was taken from me and sent to her by my CO, a tattered and > > worn teddy bear that I can barely remember having as I grew up as a > > child and several medals that I had earned and were presented to my > > wife. One of them is the Combat Infantry Badge that I am very proud > > of and I notice that my son is also wearing this medal. I had earned > > mine in the jungles of Vietnam and he had probably earned his in the > > deserts of Iraq. > > > > I can tell that they are preparing to leave and I try to take a mental > > picture of them together, because I don't know when I will see them > > again. I wouldn't blame them if they were not to return and can only > > thank them that I was not forgotten. My wife and Momma near the Wall > > for one final touch and so many years of indecision, fear and sorrow > > are let go. As they turn to leave I feel my tears that had not flowed > > for so many years, form as if dew drops on the other side of the Wall. > > > > They slowly move away with only a glance over their shoulder. My son > > suddenly stops and slowly returns. He stands straight and proud in > > front of me and snaps a salute. Something makes him move to the Wall > > and he puts his hand upon the Wall and touches my tears that had > > formed on the face of the Wall and I can tell that he senses my > > presence there and the pride and the love that I have for him. He > > falls to his knees and the tears flow from his eyes and I try my best > > to reassure him that it's alright and the tears do not make him any > > less of a man. > > > > As he moves back wiping the tears from his eyes, he silently mouths, > > God Bless you, Dad...... > > God Bless, YOU, Son...... > > We WILL meet someday but in the meanwhile, go on your way...... > > There is no hurry....... There is no hurry at all. > > > > As I see them walk off in the distance, I yell out to THEM and > > EVERYONE there today, as loud as I can,.........THANKS FOR REMEMBERING > > and as others on this side of the Wall join in, I notice that the US > > Flag that so proudly flies in front of us everyday, is flapping and > > standing proudly straight out in the wind > > today..................................THANK YOU ALL FOR > > REMEMBERING......... > > >