Does anyone know if there actually is a Grassey Valley, MO? My grandmother claimed to have been born there, but we can only find a Grassy, MO. My grandmother was Elma Mae Wray - her father was Harve Wray and mother was Dessie Mae Cummins daughter of George Cummins b 7/20/1873 d 4/8/1951 who married Maggie Palmer. Their children were: Elma Mae Wray - b. December 10, 1910, d. July 10, 1986 in Granite City, IL James Wray - b. Poplar Bluff, MO Raymond Wray Sylvia Wray Ruby Wray Floyd Wray Elma and parents moved to Greene County, Arkansas. Dessie's second husband was Jacob McBroom. Anyone out there have any connections. I'd love to hear from you. Sherry

Hi, I am also interesting in finding information about my dad who served in the British Calvary during WW-I. Is there anyone who can help me find information about this? He was living in New York at the time. Elaine of Pa. ---Tate244864@aol.com wrote: > > Is there any way of finding overseas military records for someone who joined > the US Navy in 1911 and at the end of that service joined The British Service > - Trooper 1126 King Edward's Horse in Cunagh, Ireland in 1915 and Trooper 1126 > King Edward's Horse 5th general base in France in 1916. He returned home to OK > in 1919. Joan in Lowell, MA > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

I am trying to trace through the Sullivans and the Snows in connection with Shaffer clan in Albermarle,VA. and Also Circleville,Ohio in the 1800`s---do know that the Snows had children named: Rainey Snow--Icen Snow-Frosten Snow- Early Snow -Meadows Snow----Hoping someone can help me on this wonderful kin of mine .....WAS50@AOL.COM

Contact Judith Johnson at bears2mindspring.com she will probably have all the information you could ever want on the WEBB family. I know I typed it for her. Lois

Great question!! Please post the replies to the list. Thanks! Pam in CA >Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 15:17:55 -0700 >From: Janis <firefly@ctaz.com> >Reply-To: firefly@ctaz.com >Subject: CEMETERY PLOTS >To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > >I was wondering how burials and cemetery plots were handled waaaay >back. Were there plots for sale or were they given to the deceased if >it was a church? If it was a private cemetery I imagine they were >buried there free? What about a large cemetery in a town? Were the >deceased's families charged for burial plots? I'm talking about 1850's >or before. > >Thank you very much > >Janis in AZ > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: >http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Does anyone have, or know about the book "COMPLETE INDEX TO THE WEBB'S CENTENART OF CATHOLICITY IN KENTUCKY"? I need a copy of pages 93, 206, and 330. Thanks. Ken Coolidge

Hi George, Yes, I knew that this was one way of doing it, but I've also heard that this is just a temp copyright and that you should still be sending your fee and request in to the copyright office. At leaset, that is what I last heard from the Coyright list at Rootsweb. Doesn't mean it's correct, but just that this is what I read. Thanks, Peggy At 11:48 PM 6/30/98 -0400, George G. Morgan wrote: >Hi Ardis and Peggy! > >You do NOT need to "apply" for a copyright. Simply by adding the >copyright sign, followed by the words, "Copyright 1998 [your name here] >- ALl rights reserved" you have preserved your rights. Long past are >the days of applying to the Patent Office for a copyright. > >George Morgan > >Mark and Peggy Perry wrote: >> >> At 10:42 AM 6/30/98 -0500, Ardis wrote: >> >Does the copyright laws effect family history books? In other words, do >> >I need to get permission to print information for my family history >> >book? The books would be printed strictly for our family members and >> >not for sale to the general public. Besides the birth, marriage, and >> >death dates of family members, I'd like to include information and >> >history of places our ancestors came from. >> > >> >Thanks for any help you can give me. >> >Ardis >> > >> > >> >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >> >Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See >> more information at: >> >http://www.rootsweb.com >> > >> Hi Ardis, >> >> My suggestion would be to apply for the true copyright. It's to protect you >> from someone else using your work as their own - not the other way around. >> You don't need "permission" to print any work that you yourself have >> written. Be sure to include a copy of the printed book in your local >> library and genealogical/Historical Societies as well! >> Thanks, >> >> Peggy Perry >> pegmar@mhtc.net >> >> Moderator for The Obituary Daily Times >> the email newspaper of obituaries from around the world! >> To subscribe: send a message to: GEN-OBIT-Request@rootsweb.com >> with the message: subscribe >> >> Visit our searchable web page at: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary >> >> WI GenWeb coordinator for Iowa County - visit us at: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiiowa >> >> President - Iowa County Wisconsin Genealogical Society >> http://www.friendsnfamily.net/wiiowagensoc/index.html >> >> Co-Owner of the GENMSC mailing list. >> To subscribe: send a message to: GENMSC-L-request@rootsweb.com >> with the message: subscribe >> >> ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >> Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: >> http://www.rootsweb.com > > Thanks, Peggy Perry pegmar@mhtc.net Moderator for The Obituary Daily Times the email newspaper of obituaries from around the world! To subscribe: send a message to: GEN-OBIT-Request@rootsweb.com with the message: subscribe Visit our searchable web page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary WI GenWeb coordinator for Iowa County - visit us at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiiowa President - Iowa County Wisconsin Genealogical Society http://www.friendsnfamily.net/wiiowagensoc/index.html Co-Owner of the GENMSC mailing list. To subscribe: send a message to: GENMSC-L-request@rootsweb.com with the message: subscribe

It would be wonderful to find an index of Great grandpa arriving from Ireland but I don't think one exists...yet. Therefore....if a person were immigrating from Ireland....County Down...to the USA....is there a "likely" port he would have arrived at? This was about 1865 and he ended up in Pittsburgh.. If need be I can just start reading ship lists....do lists exist for that time period? Thanx Barbara....uprooting family trees in Sacramento.

Hi Ardis and Peggy! You do NOT need to "apply" for a copyright. Simply by adding the copyright sign, followed by the words, "Copyright 1998 [your name here] - ALl rights reserved" you have preserved your rights. Long past are the days of applying to the Patent Office for a copyright. George Morgan Mark and Peggy Perry wrote: > > At 10:42 AM 6/30/98 -0500, Ardis wrote: > >Does the copyright laws effect family history books? In other words, do > >I need to get permission to print information for my family history > >book? The books would be printed strictly for our family members and > >not for sale to the general public. Besides the birth, marriage, and > >death dates of family members, I'd like to include information and > >history of places our ancestors came from. > > > >Thanks for any help you can give me. > >Ardis > > > > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > >Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See > more information at: > >http://www.rootsweb.com > > > Hi Ardis, > > My suggestion would be to apply for the true copyright. It's to protect you > from someone else using your work as their own - not the other way around. > You don't need "permission" to print any work that you yourself have > written. Be sure to include a copy of the printed book in your local > library and genealogical/Historical Societies as well! > Thanks, > > Peggy Perry > pegmar@mhtc.net > > Moderator for The Obituary Daily Times > the email newspaper of obituaries from around the world! > To subscribe: send a message to: GEN-OBIT-Request@rootsweb.com > with the message: subscribe > > Visit our searchable web page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary > > WI GenWeb coordinator for Iowa County - visit us at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiiowa > > President - Iowa County Wisconsin Genealogical Society > http://www.friendsnfamily.net/wiiowagensoc/index.html > > Co-Owner of the GENMSC mailing list. > To subscribe: send a message to: GENMSC-L-request@rootsweb.com > with the message: subscribe > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: > http://www.rootsweb.com

Hi George and All, My neighbor has complained that in Marion County, W.Va. that wills, and other historical information has been destroyed. Do you know anything about this? (Please forgive me if this has already been stated. For the last week or so, I have been trying to keep up with the Warnings and have deleted anything that did not revolve around my direct search.) Elaine of Pa. ---George Basden <gebasden@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > Hi Jean: I know we will agree to disagree on this. However, I am not > going to take sides on this one<g> > > With the advent of the American Public screaming that government is too big > and costly something has to give. Unfortunately, sometimes that means > closing a place down that means a lot to the people in the area like a > military base, records center, closing VA hospitals in rural areas, etc. > We scream and complain about higher taxes but I really don't know what the > solution is. > > The keyword in the government today is work smarter not harder and do it > with less to save the taxpayers money. Somewhere there has to be a > compromise I suspect. > > George > gebasden@worldnet.att.net > http://www.basden.com > > ---------- > > From: theshadow <theshadow@hot1.net> > > To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Closing of Some ARCHIVES > > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 10:24 PM > > > > Hello Folks, > > There are several achives around the country which are being proposed > > for closing or moving to another site. One such is the one at FT. > > Worth, TX which is being considered for being moved to GA. This, of > > course, would be great for the folks in GA, but would be a tradegy for > > North Texans who have no other source other than the Dallas Public > > Library for extensive genealogical research. That's not to down-play > > the part that other libraries play in providing gen. research, but the > > Archives are a MAJOR source of information. > > > > As a follow-up to the closing of the FT. Worth Archives, a friend sent > > me an up-date on the meeting to discuss the closing. It is very long, > > so I am just giving you the URL where you can go to get the latest > > update. The main point made I am copying for you below as I think it > > is something we all need to know----write, write, write the powers > > that be: > > > > >Richard Claypoole, Assistant Archivist for Regional Records > > Services, and Stephen Hannestad, Head of the Space and Security > > Management Division, came to Ft. Worth on June 10 to hold a > > public meeting concerning the future of the National Archives, > > Southwest Region in Ft. Worth, and the possible closing and/or > > consolidation of various regional branches of the National > > Archives. > > > > Kent Carter, Director of the National Archives, Southwest Region, > > presided at the meeting.> > > > > >...someone asked Mr. Carter if this space planning would become a > > political thing, and his reply was simply 'Yes.' This means that those > > of use who wish to retain the archives must contact governors, > > senators, and representatives who can use their power to help us. The > > employees of the Archives cannot do this. WE must do it.< > > > > Another interesting point was made: > > > > >I missed the name of the representative of the local > > Historical Society, but she wanted the group to know that > > genealogists were not the only users of the Regional Archives. > > She pointed out that she represented serious and scholarly people > > whose books will not be written or published if these records are > > moved away. While genealogists make up most of the customers of > > the Archives, there are people in a number of other fields who > > use the records here.< > > > > Again, the points made at the meeting were very interesting, so check > > out the NARA URL at Ancestry to read all of it. > > > > > > For FT. Worth: > > http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/clay.htm > > > > > > For General Discussion and other Meeting Dates: > > http://www.ancestry.com/nara.htm > > > > LCranston > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > > Family Workings: http://www.familyworkings.com > > > > A site to help researchers break through those brickwalls.  Lots of > links, > > subcatagorized, ancestor queries, tips, and cemetary research.  Looking > for > > research donations of: Cemetaries, obits, volunteer researchers, and > > anything else that may be of interest to other researchers.  Submit > links, > > ancestor queries and tips. Check it out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

At 10:42 AM 6/30/98 -0500, Ardis wrote: >Does the copyright laws effect family history books?  In other words, do >I need to get permission to print information for my family history >book?  The books would be printed strictly for our family members and >not for sale to the general public.  Besides the birth, marriage, and >death dates of family members, I'd like to include information and >history of places our ancestors came from. > >Thanks for any help you can give me. >Ardis > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: >http://www.rootsweb.com > Hi Ardis, My suggestion would be to apply for the true copyright. It's to protect you from someone else using your work as their own - not the other way around. You don't need "permission" to print any work that you yourself have written. Be sure to include a copy of the printed book in your local library and genealogical/Historical Societies as well! Thanks, Peggy Perry pegmar@mhtc.net Moderator for The Obituary Daily Times the email newspaper of obituaries from around the world! To subscribe: send a message to: GEN-OBIT-Request@rootsweb.com with the message: subscribe Visit our searchable web page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary WI GenWeb coordinator for Iowa County - visit us at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiiowa President - Iowa County Wisconsin Genealogical Society http://www.friendsnfamily.net/wiiowagensoc/index.html Co-Owner of the GENMSC mailing list. To subscribe: send a message to: GENMSC-L-request@rootsweb.com with the message: subscribe

At 10:23 AM 6/30/98 -0700, Julie Kuntz wrote: >I received a look up which I am very grateful for but I need some help with >it. First My g-grandfather was known here in the US as Charley Olson. It was >not until I saw a copy of his obit that I learned his name was Carl Olson. >On some documents I have found Carl but on most such as birth certificates I >have found Charley and then on some Charles. I understand the Charley >/Charles thing but how did he use both Carl and Charles. To further this I >can't seem to find immigration papers in either name. Does any one know how >to either confirm the name Carl as being legal or Charles? > >The look up I received was from Sweden states: Olson Carl 1864 17 M >1881-04-15 Gestad P Arnot 17:290:12578 G >I have no idea what the numbers mean. I have his birth date as July 30 1863. >Any help would be appreciated I am new to this and need help. Julie >skeeter@televar.com > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >Are you having trouble unsubscribing to the list? You can subscribe and unsubscribe to the lists we own from our web page at: >http://www.genrecords.com > Hi, I'm not sure about Sweden, but my German great-grandfather's name was CHARLES CARL and offical records usually mix these names up - perhaps this is the same situation that you have? Thanks, Peggy Perry pegmar@mhtc.net Moderator for The Obituary Daily Times the email newspaper of obituaries from around the world! To subscribe: send a message to: GEN-OBIT-Request@rootsweb.com with the message: subscribe Visit our searchable web page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary WI GenWeb coordinator for Iowa County - visit us at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiiowa President - Iowa County Wisconsin Genealogical Society http://www.friendsnfamily.net/wiiowagensoc/index.html Co-Owner of the GENMSC mailing list. To subscribe: send a message to: GENMSC-L-request@rootsweb.com with the message: subscribe

Dear All I have just finished re-modelling the title page of my website to try to make it easier to access and quicker to load. It contains lots of useful links for research in England, as well as loads of other links to general genealogy sites. Also included is a section on Pocahontas/John Rolfe/Jamestown/Virginia. Please visit (URL below) and do let me know of any more links that you would like to see included. Regards Alan Rickards Holmes Chapel, Cheshire, England Alan's Genealogy and Cheshire, England Page: http://members.tripod.com/~AlanCheshire/index.html

Part of the rules go along with: 1. how much is copied from another copyrighted source and whether you cite your source. 2. very much copied requires permission from original copyright holder, and correct citation of source. Source citation is always a good idea anyway, or you get accused of plagiarism. Karen

In a message dated 6/30/98 3:09:46 PM Central Daylight Time, gfcosmos@gate.net writes: << GenTips-L@rootsweb.com >> The most important thing that any genealogy program can have is GEDCOM (genealogy data communication) capability. Beyond that, most genealogy programs are affordability of the individual and preference. I use Personal Ancestral File, which is the originator of GEDCOM. I've been very satisified with it, but the basic program doesn't have as many "bells & whistles" as some of the more elaborate, expensive programs. The program costs $15, but there are add on's if you want to write a book or do something fancy. The add on's tend to cost about the same, and be multiple featured. If you decide to try it, you can go to the nearest LDS Family History Center as they have it on their computers. Also, they will have an order blank for it. It is definitely a must to record on a gen. program though. Since any one person can appear 5 different places (parent, grandparent, child, spouse, or "other" spouse) on a group sheet, putting them on the program eliminates having to retype the same info several different times, and risking introducing errors. Happy choosing. Karen

I received a look up which I am very grateful for but I need some help with it. First My g-grandfather was known here in the US as Charley Olson. It was not until I saw a copy of his obit that I learned his name was Carl Olson. On some documents I have found Carl but on most such as birth certificates I have found Charley and then on some Charles. I understand the Charley /Charles thing but how did he use both Carl and Charles. To further this I can't seem to find immigration papers in either name. Does any one know how to either confirm the name Carl as being legal or Charles? The look up I received was from Sweden states: Olson Carl 1864 17 M 1881-04-15 Gestad P Arnot 17:290:12578 G I have no idea what the numbers mean. I have his birth date as July 30 1863. Any help would be appreciated I am new to this and need help. Julie skeeter@televar.com

Several people suggested they had problems obtaining form 180. Standard Form 180 may be downloaded at this site. It requires an Adobe reader which is also available (free) at the site. http://www.nara.gov/regional/mprsf180.html

I just noticed I put in the wrong address. Sorry. Here is the one I intended: <http://www.isleuth.com/gene.html> Hope this helps someone. Ken Coolidge

Hi - a lady named Bessie posted she was researching the families of Baxter, Pipkin, Tackett, Brown, Hall, Ledsinger, Neisler. I show many of these families in several parts of Tennessee: Neisler- Old Mayfield & New Mayfield Cemetary in Gibson County Pipkin - Yorkville Cumberland Presbyterian Cemetary in Gibson County Tackett - Gibson County Marriage books, McNairy Cemetary  & Sulpher Springs Cemetary Hall - Knox County Marriage books & Blount County Marriage books Halls - 1850 Cocke County census Ledsinger - Jefferson County Marriage books Also have records on several volumes of WFT: Aaron Baxter WFT Pedigree #743 Amanda Baxter WFT Pedigree #3933 b. 04/10/1822 in Williamson, TN Opal C. Ledsinger in Carroll County, TN John Pipkin in Madison, TN WFT Pedigree #4340 married Louisa Jane Dockins had 6 children - Celia, Patrick, Aaron, Emily, Jesse, Benjamin. If Bessie would e-mail me more specific information on these families, I'll be happy to look up all of them on the WFT cd's. Thank you. My e-mail: RLugowski@aol.com    Ruth in Mooresville, NC

Hi Roselyn - I saw your post on researching Malachi & Mathew Rushing in SC and Aaron in FL. I show Malachi & Mathew on WFT volume 12 and am expecting to get vols. 8-12 sometime today (hopefully). I will look this up for you and let you know what I find. I didn't find any Rushing in SC, but did find some in the 1790 census for Anson County, NC also found about 5 in Seminole Indian War in FL. They might be descendants of Aaron that you are familiar with. Let me know if I can help you with anyone else. My e-mail is: RLugowski@aol.com - Good Luck - Ruth in NC