I seems to me there sould be a web site with just maps with the counties on it. Maybe some one can come up with one. How about it, fellow genealogist??? Can someone root out something? Ken Coolidge

To the individual who wrote requesting the names of counties in Iowa, I was by no means "criticizing" you when I suggested you purchase an atlas. I have one and use it all the time. Perhaps I should have also added that bit of information. If you did indeed feel I was criticizing, I apologize. However, I do sincerely suggest anyone doing their genealogy to purchase an atlas that indicates counties. It has been one of my greatest assets and definitely a time saver. Connie

I have updated my obit listings through June 30, 1998. Thanks, Lorie <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3273/">loriew's Home Page Genealogy Researh SCHWIESOW WHARTON CAINES KAWELMACHER BOOKS</A>

Meet you half-way ..... She asked for the names of counties ... not to be told about an ATLAS .... Acknowledge that (in Gen Tips) .... and I'll "reassess" Dick S. Connie Davis wrote: > > Dick, > I was HELPING, not CRITICIZING. I use my atlas ALL the time. Perhaps > you should reassess your response to me. > Connie

One of the best things I've found is having a home page of your own on the web. I, too, had a line I was sure I would never be able to crack. Then, one night I received a telephone call from a person in rural Iowa who had been visiting a friend who was on the web [this individual was not on-line]. He had his friend search for some of his surnames he was interested in and came to my home page. At that point he saw I was in need of help on that line and therefore made the call. He later furnished me with much information on this line which I had really figured I'd never get. All because I had a personal home page with my lineage listed. Howard OmahaMom@aol.com wrote: > I know the feeling. A few of my lines seem quite similar--or perhaps the > earliest known ancestor was either a) found under a cabbage leaf, literally or > b) dropped off by aliens because there is no proof that can be found of birth > & parentage. > > All I can say is: 1) try the surname lists for the name(s) in question. > 2) try the regional lists where they are known to have lived. > 3) try the ethnic list for the family's known/suspected ancestry. > 4) keep trying--the lists are continually changing, maybe one of these days > someone will know the line you're looking for. There are a lot of "lurkers" > out there on many of the lists who never say much of anything. Your post may > be the one they're looking for. > > Karen > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Are you having trouble unsubscribing to the list? You can subscribe and unsubscribe to the lists we own from our web page at: > http://www.genrecords.com

Hi, Sometimes it seems like you are never going to get a lead on one of your brick walls.I have been stuck on one person and it is starting to feel like forever.I have checked census ship lists,land records and it seems like they just appear out of nowhere.It seems like I spend more time doing look ups for others then on my own research.I believe it pays off in the end.Just tonight I was surfing the web bored and came across the Ellis Island Wall of Honor page.Just for the heck of it I typed in my brick wall surname and it came up.Along with place of orgin.Just one,but enough to give me some idea where to look next.So you never know where you are going to find information.It could come from some other person that has been helped in the past,a over looked record and like me by just killing time.So don't give up.it's a great feeling when you get a lead on a deadend.Gives you new hope to go on and find more. Lynn here is the Ellis Island web page url.http://www.wallofhonor.com/main.asp

Pam: I do not know much...this is third time I have tried to get one...and the first one found. I sent $5.00 like the old form said. I got a form letter saying record found but send $10.00 and use our new form the next time! Here is the little blurb I found in Gen. Bulletin Nov. 1996 that interested me in this: :"Did you realize that all men between the ages of 17 & 45 in 1917 had to register for the WW I draft? That means ALL men, regardless of physical condition or citizenship status. They all had to register, but just as surely they all were not called up to serve. Each man was to go to his county courthouse to fill out a form asking name, age, birthplace, occupation, citizenship status and other questions. What a gold mine of information! These WW I draft registrations are especially helpful for the folks tracing immigrant ancestors who came in the flood tide of immigrants in the 1900-1915 period. These forms were all collected in the Georgia branch of the National Archives, and have now been microfilmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah. You can view these films at your local Family History Center. The only "kicker" is that you must know the county where your ancestor registered. Good luck!" My experience: couldn't get film at local LDS center last year...too new, I was told. So I wrote to National Archives-Southeast Region, 1557 St. Joseph Ave., East Point, GA 30344 and inquired. I was sent a typed form, cost $5.00 (last year). For some large cities, like New York, LA, San Fran., New Orleans, Cleveland, Phila.,one needs an exact address. I tried for two men...one I had an induction paper for...no draft record found; the other was in uniform, but no record found (no charge either). By luck a few weeks ago, Ancestry website had WWI names for free search, so I looked for both of them, and found one! I thought he had registered in Camden County, NJ, but he actually had registered in Wilmington, DE, so maybe he was working there??? Good luck. MaisieAnn@aol.com Hudson, OH

Bessie ... Dayton is in IOWA County .... Waterloo is in BLACK HAWK County To Connie .... Purpose of this site is to HELP ..... not critize.... Dick Schweiss dicks@sttl.uswest.net Connie Davis wrote: > > I would suggest to all who are seriously doing their genealogy to invest > in a good atlas, one that defines counties. > > Connie > > Bessie Turley wrote: > > > > Can anyone tell me what counties Waterloo and Dayton Iowa are in? > > > > Thanks > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > > Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work!

In a message dated 7/2/98 6:24:25 PM Central Daylight Time, pammijo@hotmail.com writes: << GenTips-L@rootsweb.com >> There is a professional genealogist that says, "if you've run into an insurmountable brick wall, it may be because you have something about them wrong." (Sorry, I don't remember the name of the person that said it immediately.) She went on to suggest that one backtrack and look at all the information again to see if there might not be a major misspell, or something that is leading us astray. (and we all know that spelling isn't cast in granite in the early days anyway.) There's always letting the line lay dormant for awhile and work on something else. Sometimes coming back later with a fresh perspective brings more information and allows more records in an area to be discovered. Karen

I would suggest to all who are seriously doing their genealogy to invest in a good atlas, one that defines counties. Connie Bessie Turley wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what counties Waterloo and Dayton Iowa are in? > > Thanks > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: > http://www.rootsweb.com

In a message dated 7/2/98 5:32:13 PM Central Daylight Time, davis4@psln.com writes: << GenTips-L@rootsweb.com >> An atlas is indeed an essential. However, new atlases in the bookstores aren't always comprehensive, nor are the really good ones cheap. I bought a couple at a Goodwill store which do just as well for genealogy purposes, being older & having some of the older information. I also have my own criteria for whether an atlas (new or used) is worth buying: If I can find Jacquet River, New Brunswick (up on the Chaleur Bay), Bennington, Idaho (5 miles north of Montpelier in the SE corner), or Osby, Oland, Sweden (a tiny spot on the end of the island of Osland in Sweden), it will probably have anything else I might want to look up if it were actually a town. Pick your own tiny town, or borrow mine. These are small enough that they don't make it to all of them. If we're going to talk about "essential" books to invest in for the home researcher, either get Everton's "The Handy Book" which lives up to its name for American Research, or get the new LDS Source Guide CD Rom which will give much of the same information, plus other things. Karen

Can anyone tell me what counties Waterloo and Dayton Iowa are in? Thanks

For those who may not be aware of the change (I wasn't), the National Archives SE Region that houses WWI draft crds, now charges $10.00, not $5.00....and there is a new form....same style but not a typewriter form but a really professionally printed form. MaisieAnn@aol.com Hudson, OH

You might also try: http://lcweb.loc.gov/copyright/ This is the U.S. Copyright office page, complete with copyright info, forms, etc. Mary Demick Silver Spring MD mddemick@erols.com

Thanks for all the words of encouragement. I certainly am not giving up. I love this work. It is the world's largest jig saw puzzle. By the way, I really do love doing lookups for others. I feel I am making a contribution and perhaps "paying my dues" towards my great pay day in the future. Love to search Julee ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

http://www.pueblo.gsa.gov/cic_text/smbuss/cpyright.txt This is the web sit for copyright law, and the forms to file can be printed out, self explanatory.. Best Regards, Charlene ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Beverly Brown (by way of Genealogy Records Service ) wrote: > George is correct in that one doesn't have to "apply" for a copyright. I'm > quoting from my business law book: > > Works created after January 1, 1978 are automatically given statutory > copyright protection for the life of the author plus fifty years. <snip> A > copyright owner no longer needs to place a [c-circle--you know what I mean > but I don't know how to make the symbol] or R on the work to have the work > protected against infringement. > > Back to my words: > > Having said that, however, the benefit to REGISTERING the copyright, which > is what you do when you send $20, the form, and a copy of your work to the > Library of Congress, is that it makes it a heck of a lot easier to prove > that the work is truly yours. I can't find a reference in my book to back > me up on this, but I think I remember my professer saying if you had > registered your works and then you won a copyright infringement case in > court, you were entitled to greater damages than if your work were > unregistered, like you could maybe get punitive damages as well as real > damages. Since I can't find the reference that says that, I won't swear > that's true, but I can say without a doubt that if it came down to your > word against somebody else's about who wrote something, it would probably > be worth $20 to be able to prove without a doubt it was your work. > > And for what it's worth, you can't copyright ideas, only the particular way > in which an idea is expressed, nor can you copyright facts that are widely > known to the public, although compilations of facts (like your family > history) are copyrightable. > > Beverly > > George Morgan said: > >You do NOT need to "apply" for a copyright. Simply by adding the > >copyright sign, followed by the words, "Copyright 1998 [your name here] > >- ALl rights reserved" you have preserved your rights. Long past are > >the days of applying to the Patent Office for a copyright. > > > >Mark and Peggy Perry wrote: > >> At 10:42 AM 6/30/98 -0500, Ardis wrote: > >> >Does the copyright laws effect family history books? In other words, do > >> >I need to get permission to print information for my family history > >> >book? The books would be printed strictly for our family members and > >> >not for sale to the general public. Besides the birth, marriage, and > >> >death dates of family members, I'd like to include information and > >> >history of places our ancestors came from. > >> > > >> >Thanks for any help you can give me. > >> >Ardis > >> > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work!

Hello all, and especially to you Rusty and Julie... You guys are right. Let;s see what we can find for you. I know I have always enjoyed your posts, and it is more than frustrating when you seem to get NOTHING in return....Both of you guys, Post your SURNAMES and last know bit if inf., and lets see what turns up, OKAY? There is a new Chat Room called GENCHAT, follow the lead at the end of my letter, try there too....The guys building this page are just waiting to help someone...it is a great resource!! Okay, lets have those names. Thank you Marcia Moore Collins http://www.angelfire.com/ks/windshipgenhelp/

I am getting ready to order a search for records for two of my husband's relatives who served in the 21st New York Volunteer Infantry. I have the appropriate forms and would like to get an opinion as to which forms I should request - pension or military?? Many thanks for any help! Susan Seltzer Schenk Bloomington, MN Researching: Seltzer, Levine, Rosen, Berlin, Schenk, Bingmeman, Neil, Simon and more

Sounds like good advice Pam. I've got my back to a couple of those brick walls myself but did move on as you suggested. Surprisingly, it did lead to another line! Someday, those other bricks will come tumblin' down, too. Thanks again. (another)--Pam in CA >From: PAMYATES@delphi.com >Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 19:17:50 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: Re: LAST LIVING DESCENDENT--Ditto >To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com > >Rusty and Julee, > >You can't be impatient where genealogy is concerned! It sometimes takes >years to track down one elusive ancestor. I've been searching for over 20 >years (off and on) and only recently found proof of one of my ancestors. I >have another line that I still can't find anything on. I have been lucky on >a couple of my lines....found people online, even published books pertaining >to them, but it doesn't always happen that way. > >When you hit a brick wall, just start out on another line. You may stumble >across something along the way <grin>. Good luck! > >Pam > >(searching Shank, Funkhouser, Whitesell, VonGruenigen, and quite a few >others ;) > > > >I know the feeling Rusty. I have spent countless hours in my library > >doing lookups for others, but there just doesn't seem to be anything out > >there for me. I have even asked to receive any information about my Van > >Velsor line so that I can start tracking them from the other direction > >and eliminating those who cannot possibly be mine--nothing. Although I > >am happy for all those who are getting "hits" on their queries, it sure > >is discouraging. > >Julee > >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9467/ > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: >unsubscribe >To: >GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Would anyone have any info on the FULLER family from Delanco, New Jersey?  Elmer Fuller was married to Helen STRATTON and they lived in Delanco around 1902.  They had several children of whom were Edward, Wesley and Russell.  When Elmer died, Helen remarried Thomas BURR and they lived in Burlington, New Jersey.  Helen and Thomas had a daughter named Julia.  Thanks. Gayle