I would not give up. I am the last of my male line, but think how many came before me. You and I may have communicated before. However, I will be happy to take a look at your research (an edited version, please) to see if I have any suggestions. :) Don <http://web.nstar.net/~dwat6911>http://web.nstar.net/~dwat6911 dwat6911@nstar.net -----Original Message----- From: Rusty Gordon (by way of Genealogy Records Service <info@genrecords.com>) <uraeus@ionet.net> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, 02 July, 1998 12:47 PM Subject: LAST LIVING DESCENDENT >I have come to the conclusion that I am the last of my line, THE LAST LIVING >DESCENDENT!!! >I have tried to be helpful to everyone that ask for my assistance but I >really have found no information available for me, with one or two >exceptions. Is it common for there not to be any help at all? I can sit in >the local genealogy department and get that----unless my family lived here >from the conception of mankind. I am frustrated and feel like not being any >help at all but I know that is wrong, so I am to the conclusion that the >only thing left for me to do is not post and see what comes up. > >Rusty > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: ><http://www.rootsweb.com/>http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > >

I am new to GenTips, but I have been hooked on genealogy for over 14 years. Hooked so bad I am sure the relatives are avoiding me. Here are some of the surnames I am researching: BI/BURCHFIELD, CLARKE, HILBURN/BORN/ERN/BORNE, SORREL/LL/LLS, TEEL, YOUNG, YALCH, JALC, LONG, BOYD, HOUSER, GAGGERS/JAGGERS, BRADEN, BROWN. GILBERT, MCCANDLESS, ROBERTS.  I also have information on the Dillard family since they married into my family several times.  It was easier to collect their infomation than to not take it. I have over 4000 names in my family tree.  I am willing to share my info. if you are willing to share with me.  My home page is; <http://www.familytreemaker.com/l/o/n/Peggy-J-Long/index.html>http://www.fa milytreemaker.com/l/o/n/Peggy-J-Long/index.html I have 4 decendant trees at the bottom of the page and I can put on and take off others so you can see who I have.  Peggy Long

I would like to know more about this program.  Cost?  Who makes it? Where can I obtain it?  and where could I see sample of work. Lynda McCARN BREEDING, mclib@lcc.net

Julee, What are the surnames you are seeking? I have access to quite a bit of reference material...PLEASE Re=post your names. I have had wonderful help on the net, much from this list... Give one more shot. Marcia -----Original Message----- From: Julee Cook <juleecook@hotmail.com> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, July 02, 1998 1:17 PM Subject: Re: LAST LIVING DESCENDENT >Thanks for all the words of encouragement. I certainly am not giving >up. I love this work. It is the world's largest jig saw puzzle. By >the way, I really do love doing lookups for others. I feel I am making >a contribution and perhaps "paying my dues" towards my great pay day in >the future. > >Love to search > >Julee > > > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >==== GenTips Mailing List ==== >Are you having trouble unsubscribing to the list? You can subscribe and unsubscribe to the lists we own from our web page at: >http://www.genrecords.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Rusty, Don't give up just yet, I have been searching for two "branches" of my family for the last 20 years...and there is still one that just dropped off the face of the earth after having conceived 3 children!!!!! In the last two weeks, I have found two of these "branches" by the kindness of my friends on the internet...one was just a middle name of the person I was researching, the other found my quearie in South Africa and e-mailed me with the address of a "cousin" right here in my own backyard! So, sit back, relax, and give it a little breather...I was getting frustrated with my cousin who would just click on her computer, and EVERYTHING that she was looking for would come pouring out of her printer...I was really beginning to hate her! Hang in there! Diane

Waterloo is in Black Hawk County, Dayton is in Webster County Richard Bessie Turley wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what counties Waterloo and Dayton Iowa are in? > > Thanks > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: > http://www.rootsweb.com

On one of the lists I am on (hope it was this one) it was being discussed how to determine the birthdate from the death date, such as DOD 14 January 1924, was 80 yrs.6 mos, 21 days. This was on my G-grandfathers death cert and I am checking info previously obtained. I have birthdate as 24 June 1843. Can someone refresh my mind about how to get the correct figure? TIA. Anna alangley@hiwaay.net

In my opinion, do not expect too much from the places you can search on the net. I have been searching every place I can get into, and have yet to find anything that connects to my family line. Most of what I have gotten is by using the census and soundex films. Even the books in the librarys have been of no help. The only reason I still have terminal, is that there are several persons with the surname that contact me by email, but even that is very limited for me. Don't give up but don't depend on one source. Richard OmahaMom@aol.com wrote: > > I know the feeling. A few of my lines seem quite similar--or perhaps the > earliest known ancestor was either a) found under a cabbage leaf, literally or > b) dropped off by aliens because there is no proof that can be found of birth > & parentage. > > All I can say is: 1) try the surname lists for the name(s) in question. > 2) try the regional lists where they are known to have lived. > 3) try the ethnic list for the family's known/suspected ancestry. > 4) keep trying--the lists are continually changing, maybe one of these days > someone will know the line you're looking for. There are a lot of "lurkers" > out there on many of the lists who never say much of anything. Your post may > be the one they're looking for. > > Karen > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Are you having trouble unsubscribing to the list? You can subscribe and unsubscribe to the lists we own from our web page at: > http://www.genrecords.com

Dear Sherry, It very well could have been the same place, contact the local historical society for Grassey MO, it could have had it's name shortened...There was a person looking for " Fruitland " Colorado quite awhile back on the list, I had my niece check with the local historical society near them....they lived in Grand Junction, right next to "Fruita" Colorado....."Fruitland" is now simply " Fruita" Colorado! Diane

Dear Janis, I have in my posession a small piece of paper that belonged to my great-grand father, it is a receipt for a set of four plots in a little cemetary in Wood County , Ohio and it is dated before 1880. So I guess, depending on the type of cemetary, there would be some type of record of the "transaction" alloting our little green acre for our final resting place. Diane

this email address is a year old but you might try it. Michael Ginn lives in England and goes to the records office every week or so. I ordered a marriage certificate from him. I had the index #, etc. and he got a copy and sent it within 3 weeks. He maintains a US bank acct (If you are in US). and you send a check there, then he sends it. email: 100721.1357@compuserve.com I hope it is still current. Pam J ---------- From: Barbara Findley[SMTP:blf101@cpuinc.net] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 1998 9:31 PM To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com Subject: England Does anyone know how to go about getting a birth record from England? I need to get a record dated 1890 from Coventry, England. Barbara ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: unsubscribe To: GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work!

Barbara, You might check at your local Family History Center (Mormon genealogy library). When I was in Salt Lake City last week there were zillions and zillions of microfilmed church records from England. It may be possible for you to order a film from your particular area. Good luck! Connie Barbara Findley wrote: > > Does anyone know how to go about getting a birth record from England? > I need to get a record dated 1890 from Coventry, England. > Barbara > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsubscribe to GenTips email the command: > unsubscribe > To: > GenTips-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > DON'T send it to GenTips-L that won't work!

--WebTV-Mail-1046235707-54 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I agree with you Dick,That was an answer with an attitude. OTEE --WebTV-Mail-1046235707-54 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net [207.79.35.91]) by postoffice-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.5/po.gso.24Feb98) with ESMTP id PAA16478; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.gso.01Apr98) with ESMTP id PAA28186; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA04998; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: fixup-GenTips-L@rootsweb.com@fixme Message-ID: <359C0782.BBF@sttl.uswest.net> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 15:19:46 -0700 From: Dick Schweiss <dicks@uswest.net> Reply-To: dicks@sttl.uswest.net Organization: Skinner's, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) Old-To: davis4@psln.com Old-CC: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: IOWA References: <1.5.4.32.19980702200853.00ba9800@pop.usit.net> <359BEA94.4743@psln.com> <359BF7F1.3F2@sttl.uswest.net> <359C0461.5990@psln.com> Old-Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"h6qHTD.A.zAB.QfAn1"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <GenTips-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/11215 X-Loop: GenTips-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: GenTips-L-request@rootsweb.com Meet you half-way ..... She asked for the names of counties ... not to be told about an ATLAS .... Acknowledge that (in Gen Tips) .... and I'll "reassess" Dick S. Connie Davis wrote: > > Dick, > I was HELPING, not CRITICIZING. I use my atlas ALL the time. Perhaps > you should reassess your response to me. > Connie ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== Support online research! Donate to the RootsWeb Genealogical Project! See more information at: http://www.rootsweb.com --WebTV-Mail-1046235707-54--

The Ancestral File is part of the LDS Church Family Search Program. This can be found at any Family History Center. Recently, the LDS Church has begun selling this program so it may be found at some of the larger genealogical libraries. It is not on-line. Howard dcgld wrote: > Hello, > How do you access the Ancestral Files and just what are they? Our > local LDS library is now closed but I never saw these files there when > they were open. Thanks for any info. Carolyn > > > > > Linda -- > > > > Ancestral file has some good points and some bad points. See my comments below. > > > > Howard Johnston > > > > by way of Genealogy Records Service wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > I'm new to this list and have a question. > > > I have located ancestors on an Ancestral File (LDS) and some of the dates are > > > different from my research. Also a couple of the surnames are spelled > > > differently. I need to find out their verification for their research. > > > > Very true. Ancestral File is just a helping aid. Some of the information in it is accurate and some of it is not. > > > > > I > > > know that the Ancestral File Numbers are the link. Exactly how would I find > > > out who submitted the file and where their information came from? > > > > Submitters are listed right in the Ancestral File. As I recall, pressing F9 brings up the submitters [while in Ancestral > > File program]. > > > > > TIA > > > Linda in Michigan > > > CHIMPAS@aol.com > > > <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/1947/>http://www.geocities.com/He > > > artland/Acres/1947/ > > > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > > > Don't forget to stop by our business web page for FREE genealogy forms and charts! We are adding more all the time!!!! > > > http://www.genrecords.com > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > > Are you having trouble unsubscribing to the list? You can subscribe and unsubscribe to the lists we own from our web page at: > > http://www.genrecords.com

In a message dated 07/02/98 11:45:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mcollins@sfths.sft434.k12.ks.us writes: << I know this has naught to do with Genealogy, but the list is slow, so It doesn't hurt! >> Hi Marcia and list, Here are a bunch of tag lines that are fantastic, I think (and some are so true!): "Crazy" is a relative term in MY family A family reunion is an effective form of birth control A family tree can wither if nobody tends it's roots A great many family trees were started by grafting A miser is hard to live with, but makes a fine ancestor A new cousin a day keeps the boredom away Alright! Everybody out of the genetic pool! Always willing to share my ignorance... Am I the only person up my tree - seems like it Ancestors were just people... Any family tree produces some lemons, nuts and bad apples At last a chance to make my skeletons dance! Aunt Grace's surname was not GEDCOM Biochemists wear designer genes Bring out your dead............. C A U T I O N ! ... You have now entered the Genealogy Zone Climbing my family tree was fun until the nuts appeared! Cousins marrying cousins: A non-branching family tree Cousins marrying cousins: VERY tangled roots! Death is just nature's way of dropping carrier Do I hear the rattle of chains? Documentation....The hardest part of genealogy Does that run in your family? Don't sit under the family tree with anyone else but me! Ever find an ancestor HANGING from the family tree? Every family tree has some sap in it Everybody wants to be on the Mayflower Everybody's ancestors could not fit on Columbus's ship Evolution is God's way of issuing updates Cleaning out the gene pool, one at a time Collecting dead relatives can be "stinky" FLOOR: (n) The place for storing your priceless genealogy records For a reply, send a self-abused, stomped elephant to... Gedcoms eaten by the Net 273 Mail Muncher<tm> Gene-Allergy - It's a contagious disease, but I love it! Genealogists are like monkeys, always in the trees Genealogists never marry first cousins, unless...... Genealogists are time unravelers Genealogists do it generation after generation.... Old genealogists never die, they just lose their census Genealogists live in the past lane Old genealogists never die, they just haunt cemeteries Genealogy - a search for the greatest treasures - our ancestors Genealogy - it's only an obsession after all! Genealogy - will I ever find time to mow the lawn again? Genealogy is like Hide & Seek: They Hide & I Seek! Genealogy...it's not a hobby, it's an obsession Genealogy: Chasing your own tale! Genealogy: Tracing yourself back to better people Genealogy Lotto XXXXXXXXXXXX (Scratch here to reveal ancestor) Ghosts are merely unsubstantiated roomers Heredity: Everyone believes in it until their children act like fools! How can one ancestor cause so much TROUBLE ?? I can trace my Taglines back 8 generations I looked into my family tree and found out I was a sap I looked up my family tree...there were two dogs using it I researched my family tree... apparently I don't exist! I shook my family tree, a bunch of nuts fell out I should have asked them BEFORE they died! I think my ancestors had several "bad heir" days I used to have a life, then I started doing genealogy I want to find ALL of them! So far I only have a few thousand I'd rather look for dead people than have 'em look for me I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the Juneflower I'm no genealogist. ... Until this year I spelled it "geneOlogist!" I'm not sick, I've just got fading genes I'm not stuck, I'm ancestrally challenged I'm searching for myself; Have you seen me? I'm stuck in my family tree, and I can't get down If only people came with pull-down menus and on-line help... Isn't genealogy fun? The answer to one problem, leads to two more! It is hereditary in my family not to have children It's a poor family that hath neither a whore or a thief It's hard to believe that someday I'll be an ancestor It's 1996. Do you know where your great-grandparents were? Jeanealogy: the study of LEVIS and WRANGLERS Many a family tree needs trimming May the Saint of Genealogists bless you! My ancestors must be in a witness protection program! My family came on the Mayflower...or was it Allied? My family coat of arms ties at the back.....is that normal? My family tree is a few branches short! Help appreciated My family tree is lost in the forest My family tree must have been used for firewood My genes are so tight, they may stay with me forever My hobby is genealogy, and I raise dust bunnies as pets My skeletons are rhythmically impaired and can't dance Old Italians don't die.....they HIDE! Only a Genealogist regards a step backwards as progress Originality is the art of concealing your sources RELATIVES...People who come to dinner who aren't friends Remember, undocumented genealogy is mythology. Searching passenger ship records? Simply naval gazing Shake your family tree and watch the nuts fall! Share your knowledge, it is a way to achieve immortality Shh! Be vewy, vewy quiet...I'm hunting forebears. Elmer Fudd Snobs talk as if they had begotten their own ancestors! So many ancestors...so little time! That's strange; half my ancestors are WOMEN! That's the problem with the gene pool: No lifeguard The gene pool could use a little chlorine! There is strength in our Roots They've said *you* are the fertilizer of your family tree! To a genealogist, EVERYTHING is relative! Try genealogy. You can't get fired and you can't quit! Warning!! There are no lifeguards in the gene pool! Was Uncle Fester *REALLY* AC/DC? Were you born with that? What do you mean your wife's not ITALIAN? What do you mean my Birth Certificate expired? What do you mean my family tree has root rot! Who said Russia? I said she was Gyno-American! When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! When marriage is outlawed only outlaws will have inlaws Whoever said "seek and ye shall find" was NOT a genealogist Why are there so many gnarled limbs on my family tree? With MY luck, my family tree has root-rot! Yikes! My genes are faded and full of holes! Success in searching, Patty Smith Barry~Cronin~Duke~Gorden~Haushalter~Herrmann McLeod~Murray~Norman~Schmidt~Schroeder~Shepherd •~•~•~>Visit My Genealogy Links Page<~•~•~• Tuffsearch's Ancestors' Attic http://members.aol.com/Tuffsearch/Genealogylinks.html •~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•~•

Hello, How do you access the Ancestral Files and just what are they? Our local LDS library is now closed but I never saw these files there when they were open. Thanks for any info. Carolyn > > Linda -- > > Ancestral file has some good points and some bad points. See my comments below. > > Howard Johnston > > by way of Genealogy Records Service wrote: > > > Hi, > > I'm new to this list and have a question. > > I have located ancestors on an Ancestral File (LDS) and some of the dates are > > different from my research. Also a couple of the surnames are spelled > > differently. I need to find out their verification for their research. > > Very true. Ancestral File is just a helping aid. Some of the information in it is accurate and some of it is not. > > > I > > know that the Ancestral File Numbers are the link. Exactly how would I find > > out who submitted the file and where their information came from? > > Submitters are listed right in the Ancestral File. As I recall, pressing F9 brings up the submitters [while in Ancestral > File program]. > > > TIA > > Linda in Michigan > > CHIMPAS@aol.com > > <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/1947/>http://www.geocities.com/He > > artland/Acres/1947/ > > > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > > Don't forget to stop by our business web page for FREE genealogy forms and charts! We are adding more all the time!!!! > > http://www.genrecords.com > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Are you having trouble unsubscribing to the list? You can subscribe and unsubscribe to the lists we own from our web page at: > http://www.genrecords.com

Rusty and Julee, You can't be impatient where genealogy is concerned! It sometimes takes years to track down one elusive ancestor. I've been searching for over 20 years (off and on) and only recently found proof of one of my ancestors. I have another line that I still can't find anything on. I have been lucky on a couple of my lines....found people online, even published books pertaining to them, but it doesn't always happen that way. When you hit a brick wall, just start out on another line. You may stumble across something along the way <grin>. Good luck! Pam (searching Shank, Funkhouser, Whitesell, VonGruenigen, and quite a few others ;) >I know the feeling Rusty. I have spent countless hours in my library >doing lookups for others, but there just doesn't seem to be anything out >there for me. I have even asked to receive any information about my Van >Velsor line so that I can start tracking them from the other direction >and eliminating those who cannot possibly be mine--nothing. Although I >am happy for all those who are getting "hits" on their queries, it sure >is discouraging. >Julee http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9467/

Thank you all for your help on Iowa counties and jumping to my defense over Connies comment. Connie I was a little bothered by your comment but and apology is not necessary. I know you were only trying to help the best way you could and I do appreciate that. THANKS again EVERYONE!!!! Bessie

Hi, I saw 2 different atlases by Rand-McNally at K-Mart which seemed similar to the ones I saw at Office Max. The ones at K-Mart were only about $5.00 while the ones at Office Max were more expensive. I don't know what the difference was except K-Mart's name is on the front cover. They might be worth checking out to see if they show counties, etc. I usually use the maps in my old World Book encyclopedias so I didn't check them out too closely. Edith <An atlas is indeed an essential. However, new atlases in the bookstores aren't always comprehensive, nor are the really good ones cheap.>

Here's a map site I use all the time: http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html You can enter a city and state to get a county name, or you can enter a feature type such as "cemetery" to find cemeteries in a specific area. It serves many purposes! Sheri