Linda, I'm not sure that you would call this turning over a grave. But, I have a problem locating my Grandfathers' grave.. He is buried in a cemetery believed to have been displaced by a local lake. My problem is that none of the family was ever contacted about the removal of grave for relocation. On his death certificate is listed the cemetery in question, but, NONE of the family has been able to find his grave in the "relocated" cemetery. This is still very disturbing to us. I'm sorry I'm rambling and not much help...But wanted you to know I'm on a similar quest. There are only 3 of my mother's siblings left and we would like to find him. Does anyone have any suggestions?? Thanks for the ear. Denise -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 22:16 Subject: Re: GenTips-D Digest V99 #253 I was wondering if anyone out there has experienced not being able to locate the graves of loved ones. I am trying to help an older woman in the neighborhood (81 yrs) who can not find her parents graves. Even though she had visited the graves many times before. After a 7 year lapse, she went to the cemetary to find no headstones or markers. The cemetary said that no one was buried in that location, and even checked with a long metal probe. The office has no record of her parents being buried there. We have received copies of death certificates, showing the name of the cemetary. And on her fathers burial card it shows the section and lot number. But still the cemetary says no. Her parents died in 1917 and 1921. Has anyone heard of turning over graves. Ands does anyone have any suggestions? Time is running out for her, and I would love to help her out. Thanks, Linda [email protected] ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== Family Workings: http://www.familyworkings.com A site to help researchers break through those brickwalls. Lots of links, subcatagorized, ancestor queries, tips, and cemetary research. Looking for research donations of: Cemetaries, obits, volunteer researchers, and anything else that may be of interest to other researchers. Submit links, ancestor queries and tips. Check it out

LINDA, would you please say in which state this situation has happened. And second, there must be some department of state government that has authority over moving of a buried body or casket without first attempting to locate a relative to give permission. I recall reading on one of the lists about cemeteries contacting descendants of buried persons re a necessary removal. The government of that state doubtless has a general information 800 number and you could call to ask which department would be in charge. If you don't get a satisfactory answer, call the state's secretary of state and ask the same question. Also, you can go the courthouse for that county, ask the court clerk where is the register of deaths or permanent record of deaths for that county. There should be a formal record for each deceased person, including the date and place of burial, address of undertaker. If the undertaker is no longer in business, other undertakers or your local library may have received his boxes of records. Please keep us posted of your progress. This is a good example of why we should have a map of the cemetery where our loved one was buried, with the plot marked ... and give copies to other relatives. VIRGINIA

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Can anyone tell me that if my gggg-grandmother ONSTINE applied for WI land thru the B of LM, would that mean that it could possibly be for free land as a Civil War Widow? I have always thought my gggg-grandfather was killed in the CW, but the signature date is 1859--which makes that impossible. Does anyone know if that is the purpose of land issued by the B of LM? This was for only 40 acres too. [email protected]

Term graves were common in Chicago in that time period, the tradition coming from Europe where term graves may still exist. I understand most cemetery offices do, in fact, maintain records of the previous burials. Perhaps a call indicating that you want to know if term graves might be involved, and asking for more information about the previous burials at the site might elicit more information. Elaine Researching S-L-E-P-I-C-K-A and H-R-U-S-K-A ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:08 PM Subject: Re: GenTips-D Digest V99 #253 I was wondering if anyone out there has experienced not being able to locate the graves of loved ones. I am trying to help an older woman in the neighborhood (81 yrs) who can not find her parents graves. Even though she had visited the graves many times before. After a 7 year lapse, she went to the cemetary to find no headstones or markers. The cemetary said that no one was buried in that location, and even checked with a long metal probe. The office has no record of her parents being buried there. We have received copies of death certificates, showing the name of the cemetary. And on her fathers burial card it shows the section and lot number. But still the cemetary says no. Her parents died in 1917 and 1921. Has anyone heard of turning over graves. Ands does anyone have any suggestions? Time is running out for her, and I would love to help her out.

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Hi Have you considered copying to wordpad and then printing from there? I don't know what the matter is with your email that it won't print but either wordpad or a word processing program should print your emails. Hope this helps. Judy Marjorie Corcoran (by way of Tracey Converse ) wrote: > On occassion I have received genealogical messages where the > words will go on and on and on until I have held the right > arrow down forever. Then I have to go back and start all > over again. This is usually when I want to save the > information for myself. > I know that this is not a forum for me to learn internet > messages, but I would just like to know how to change things > so that I might be able to print the information in full. > When I try to print, it only prints half the message and I > cannot figure out how to print the other half. > Sorry if I have offended anyone. > I appreciate your attention and hope to have the problem > solved. > Midge Corcoran in Oregon > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to stop by our business web page for FREE genealogy forms and charts! We are adding more all the time!!!! > http://www.genrecords.com

Can anyone tell me that if my gggg-grandmother applied for WI land thru the BofLM, would that mean that it could possibly be for free land as a Civil War Widow. I have always thought my gggg-grandfather was killed in the CW, but the sign date is 1859--which makes that improbable. Does anyone know if that is the purpose of the Bof LM. This was for 40 acres.

Jayme (and anyone else who may need help in translating various things), try this link>http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate? I tried translating some of the words for you, but you should probably play around with it yourself. Here are a few I was able to make out: Aus-out Aus des-From Arme-poor und-and "russ des todes strenges"-soot of the death strict ach wir-oh we "freiden allein du herr"-peace alone you gentleman "hilfst mir dosz ich...sicher wohne"-help for me dosz(?) I...reliably(this may be regrettably) live Jeanne

where do I find these soundex records, for instance one is L361. Kathleen Lathrop [email protected]

Go to http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate Find translate from German to English, type in each word and it will translate for you. Midge Corcoran in Oregon Jayme Ann (by way of Tracey Converse ) wrote: > Hello :) > I was at a cemetery today and found a headstone that is written in German > (?) Can anyone help me to translate this: > > Mathilda E. A geb. Matter (her name, and maybe geb means born, so this > would be her maiden name??- Am wondering if MATTER translates to Martin) > > Gallin Von H Jonghans ( I am wondering if this is her husband's name or if > it means something else.) > > Mathilda's married name is JUNKINS (so I assume that Jonghans translates to > Junkins??) > > Now the really hard part: ~~~~~~~~~~ > Aus des gallon arme forl und dem kreis der kmdor russ des todes strenges > worl grunder ach wir sund os un boussl nichls ol solsl uns den vinhusl > > On another stone I found this: > ich liege und schlufe gan mil frieden denn allein du herr hilfst mir dosz > ich... sicher wohne > > I may have copied some of the words incorrectly, but it was hard to make out > on the stones. > > I would appreciate any help that I can get. > Thanks so much. > Jayme B :) > [email protected] > > ==== GenTips Mailing List ==== > Are you having trouble unsubscribing to the list? You can subscribe and unsubscribe to the lists we own from our web page at: > http://www.genrecords.com

I was wondering if anyone out there has experienced not being able to locate the graves of loved ones. I am trying to help an older woman in the neighborhood (81 yrs) who can not find her parents graves. Even though she had visited the graves many times before. After a 7 year lapse, she went to the cemetary to find no headstones or markers. The cemetary said that no one was buried in that location, and even checked with a long metal probe. The office has no record of her parents being buried there. We have received copies of death certificates, showing the name of the cemetary. And on her fathers burial card it shows the section and lot number. But still the cemetary says no. Her parents died in 1917 and 1921. Has anyone heard of turning over graves. Ands does anyone have any suggestions? Time is running out for her, and I would love to help her out. Thanks, Linda [email protected]

I just heard from the listowner at the Cimorelli Website I posted the other day. They are changing servers and are down for a few days. Here is a copy of his post to another mailing list. So, don't loose the bookmark, it is a very comprehensive site! I don't think I made it clear in my first post, but there are not passenger LISTS at this site. It's a listing of the SHIPS and the dates they arrived in the US and from which ports overseas, plus loads of other information. Patty >>>>>>From the listowner of the CIMO site: "This weekend I'm swapping servers so expect many delays/periods of nonavailability. Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom, redid the ODBC drivers and many of the past reports will display one page and get an error. I know this is happening, so don't send a gazillion email messages. You will be redirected to http://www.cimorelli.com/safe/shipmenu.htm vice /vbclient/shipmenu.htm - these are the fixed programs." I did connect after I received above message, but have not been able to do so today. Be patient.>>>>>

I also got a file not found when I tried the above URL. I really would appreciate the correct one as printing my favorites is something I need to do. Due to crashes in the past, I too have lost valluable information. Vivian Webb Latimer

Subj: Re: Addresse of Ancestry Date: 8/10/99 10:51:37 PM !!!First Boot!!! From: [email protected] (MScheffler) To: [email protected] (by way of Tracey Converse <[email protected]>) The address for Ancestry is: Ancestry Incorporated, 266 West Center Street, Orem, Utah 84057; phone (801) 426-3500. I found it with my PERSI cd and on the Ancestry Magazine. M. Scheffler

Hello :) I was at a cemetery today and found a headstone that is written in German (?) Can anyone help me to translate this: Mathilda E. A geb. Matter (her name, and maybe geb means born, so this would be her maiden name??- Am wondering if MATTER translates to Martin) Gallin Von H Jonghans ( I am wondering if this is her husband's name or if it means something else.) Mathilda's married name is JUNKINS (so I assume that Jonghans translates to Junkins??) Now the really hard part: ~~~~~~~~~~ Aus des gallon arme forl und dem kreis der kmdor russ des todes strenges worl grunder ach wir sund os un boussl nichls ol solsl uns den vinhusl On another stone I found this: ich liege und schlufe gan mil frieden denn allein du herr hilfst mir dosz ich... sicher wohne I may have copied some of the words incorrectly, but it was hard to make out on the stones. I would appreciate any help that I can get. Thanks so much. Jayme B :) [email protected]

If anyone goes far back to 1763, Iam looking for my 7th generation ancestor-Daniel Gott-B.2-9-1763 and D.4-27-1829. He married Rachael Littlefield-B. ? D.?. Hope some one can help me, thank [email protected] aol.com.

I am new at this and I don't mean to sound stupid but what is a soundex? Thanks! Brenda

Family tradition has it that my 2 great gf died during the Civil War in Mo. How would I go about checking this info. out. I do not know if he was for north or south. The family went to Mo. from NC. I know that being from the south did not always mean you fought for the south. So does anyone have any ideas as to where I would start? All suggestions greatly appreciated. Linda

I apologize, my brain works faster than my fingers <GRIN>. I left a 9 out between the 237 and the 54. The correct address is http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q237/9/54.asp Honest this one will get you there. I used copy and pasted and got right there. Again, I'm sorry for not paying closer attention to what I was doing. Marge Hi list members, If you have Internet Explorer, go to the following I GAVE THE WRONG ADDRESS - SORRY. you will find the instructions for printing off your entire list of favorites. One thing this article does not mention is to chose Landscape before printing. Some address strings are longer than can be printed in Portrait.