Hi, Cemetery Researchers: Please join us tonight (Tuesday) for a chat on and about CEMETERIES--how to research, photograph, obtain and record information. If you have CEMETERY resources (specific or general), please be sure and bring those to the chat. 8-9 pm Eastern; 7-8 pm Central; 6-7 pm Mt.; 5-6 pm Pacific Time http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm Everyone is welcome--all states represented. If you miss the chat, you can go to the forum and post your queries and research questions: http://about.delphi.com/ab-huntsville If you have never been in a chat room or a forum, and need instructions, just write me and I'll help you. If you'd like to see a list of other genealogy chat, I can send you that, too. Jean Brandau huntsville2@home.com

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Help! I would like to find out where in Norway my great-great grandfather, John Johnson came from. Family notes say he came from Oslo, but that may turn out to be the port that he sailed from. I know that his wife was Anna Yanda. Their first child, Edward was born in Norway, and the second child Anna born in Manitowoc, Wisconsin, so they must have come to America around 1878-9. I know that I should search the ship lists and naturalization records, however, how will I ever know which one is him, being that his name was John Johnson? Thank you, Gwyneth Horobin http://www.geocities.com/gwynethart ===== http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Trail/2456 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Musee/9323 If a little dreaming is dangerous, the cure for it is not to dream less but to dream more, to dream all the time. -Marcel Proust (1871-1922) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Ralph, thanks so much for your info on finding the name of the town and naturallization process. I too have been searching for my great grandmother from Ireland and have hit a brick wall. When you answer one persons questions it often affects us others. Thanks again. Marilyn

Nancy and GenTippers, Your are correct in your speculation that "N1884" probably means that is the year he was naturalized. At that time a wife would most likely gain citizenship when her husband naturalized. I would not expect to find an application for her. The value of finding his application may be a "correct date" of arrival and possibly the name of the ship. This could direct you to a passenger list that contain the names of specific towns. You can find a piece that I have written on naturalization at my web site. <http://members.aol.com/RalphK/DocumentSearch.html> The 1900 and 1910 census also asked questions concerning birthplaces of mother and father. Don't be too hopeful as most census takes simply indicated the name of the countries, but I have seen a few the included the town. Good luck in your research, one step at a time, backwards. Ralph Komives Genealogy Document Searches http://members.aol.com/RalphK/DocumentSearch.html Free download: Extended Chronology of the Nineteenth Century (1743-1901) Document Searches in Washington, D.C. Area and Annapolis, MD. Problem searches a specialty. Research at: DAR Library, National Archives, Library of Congress, MD, State Archives In a message dated 7/13/00 9:41:20 AM, NGroves@aol.com writes: << My great-grandfather and great-grandmother emigrated from Sweden and Denmark, respectively. There is no family information on which part of those countries they came from, but I'd dearly love to know. I have obtained death certificates and obituaries for both relatives, but they don't provide anything other than the country of origin. A volunteer looked up census records from 1920, which again listed only the country. I 'm hoping that naturalization records will at last provide the details I need. The census records indicated that both relatives were naturalized; the record for my great-grandfather included the phrase "N1884," which I presume means he was naturalized that year. There was no year given for my great-grandmother. I can probably find the record for my great-grandfather given what I know, but what about his wife? Would she have had to file for naturalization, or would it have been bestowed automatically when she married (if her husband was already a citizen), or when he became naturalized? I don't want to waste time looking for a record if there isn't one. Can anyone clarify how this process worked for women? Nancy >>

Hello: Saw your post on the Gentips, have you tried Classmates.com? since you are on AOL, here is the hyperlink to it: <A HREF="http://www.classmates.com/user/myschool/">ClassMates.com - My School </A> This comes up to my High School, but go to the main page and click on the State and click on your school. This is a great place to look up old acquaintances. Hope it helps, Diane Eaton Hacker

Hello everyone: I have just joined the list and I'am hoping to get so help and tips. On how to find someone. I'm looking for my mother. Who seperated from My father around 1955 She left me and my sister with our father, And we never heard from her again. This is what I know about her. Rosa May Darling-Goodwin born March 9, 1916 in Madison Iowa and was given up for adoption. She was adoped by George & Christina Darling. They lived in Hastings, Adams Co. Nebraska at that time. But moved to Harvard, Ne. Rosa went to school in Harvard and graduated from there. The only thing the school had was a school census from 1930 and her graduation picture. She married Maynard Goodwin and they lived in Hastings and Republican City, Nebraska. I have looked in both Co. and no marriage liences.I have checked the surounding Co. and no marriage liences. My father said she died in Idaho but that was all he would tell us. He is now dead and there is no other living relatives. But her adopted brother who says the last time he seen her or talked to her was in 1953. I talked to the S.S. office and they say they can't help without a death certifiacte. Which I don't have and don't know how to get seens I don't know where she died. Any help or tips would really be appricated. Thanks in advance. Kay Goodwin-Sly Asbury, Mo.

Have you checked the Rootsweb state archives? All Texas marriages, births and deaths are listed. You could get her marriage then see if she died under that name. If he died then you have to look for another marriage for her. Also check SSDI. Helene GMcmil5382@aol.com wrote: > > I have never posted before but have enjoyed reading all the information and > education I have received from all of you. > I sincerely hope this in not inappropriate - but all other leads have failed. > This is the 45th anniversary of the 1955 High School graduation of Gruver > High School, Gruver, Texas. We are looking for a classmate - and have been > the last 15 years. She is Ernestine Wilson. In the mid 60's she was married > to an officer Cook who was with the police department in Santa Ana, > California. She had a brother, David Wilson who also moved to California in > 1955. Any information at all would be greatly appreciated. Please contact > me personally and put in the subject: Gruver. > Thank you so much.

Hi Chris: Perhaps a library for the particular area you are researching may have these records. Jerry

I have never posted before but have enjoyed reading all the information and education I have received from all of you. I sincerely hope this in not inappropriate - but all other leads have failed. This is the 45th anniversary of the 1955 High School graduation of Gruver High School, Gruver, Texas. We are looking for a classmate - and have been the last 15 years. She is Ernestine Wilson. In the mid 60's she was married to an officer Cook who was with the police department in Santa Ana, California. She had a brother, David Wilson who also moved to California in 1955. Any information at all would be greatly appreciated. Please contact me personally and put in the subject: Gruver. Thank you so much.

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I received the following message about apparently some incorrect information on a GedCom file. I just want to comment that this is a VERY INAPPROPRIATE way to approach making a correction. And it sure would have been nice for her to have provided me with the correct information. She didn't even tell me what was wrong. Please be nice to others when trying to correct incorrect GedCom files. Carolyn Caplinger genbuff@atlascomm.net YOU NEED TO PRINT ONLY TRUE STUFF ON HERE FOR ALL THE INFORMATION BELOW IS ALL WRONG. MY NAME IS LINDA RUMLEY. SO GET IT CORRECT ARE DO NOT DO MY NAME ARE MY FAMILEY!!!

Hello, trying to help find this woman who may be deceased. possibly born after 1961. Her brother never knew her and was told she had died, possibly in Alabama. If anyone out there knows of her please email me. She probably was born in Bama also. will get more details from brother. thanks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

One word of caution when using the search feature. I'm not sure exactly how it is searching... but I only found my gggrandfather by using his last name. When I plugged in first name, last name - didn't work and when I used last name, first name - also didn't work. I had to use just his last name. Even after I knew what state it was filed under, that his middle initial was used, and that his widow's first name was on the index -still could not call it up except by using JUST his last name. So don't give up if at first you don't find the name you're looking for - try just his surname. Patti

Ruth, Thanks so much for the Ancestry.com pension database notice to the mailing list!!! I check in there now and then but not as often as I should. Got your notice, went there and FOUND my great great grandfather. The amazing part is... several people have checked for me before (who had access to different databases) and NEVER found him!!!! He's right there!!!! He's been a "mystery man", so I am very happy & excited... thank you!!!!!! Everybody... check it out - even if you think you've checked before... you never know who you might find!!! :) Patti

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My great-grandfather and great-grandmother emigrated from Sweden and Denmark, respectively. There is no family information on which part of those countries they came from, but I'd dearly love to know. I have obtained death certificates and obituaries for both relatives, but they don't provide anything other than the country of origin. A volunteer looked up census records from 1920, which again listed only the country. I 'm hoping that naturalization records will at last provide the details I need. The census records indicated that both relatives were naturalized; the record for my great-grandfather included the phrase "N1884," which I presume means he was naturalized that year. There was no year given for my great-grandmother. I can probably find the record for my great-grandfather given what I know, but what about his wife? Would she have had to file for naturalization, or would it have been bestowed automatically when she married (if her husband was already a citizen), or when he became naturalized? I don't want to waste time looking for a record if there isn't one. Can anyone clarify how this process worked for women? Nancy

Genealogy Researching on the Internet has just taken a giant step forward, by the introduction of "geographic search technology to Northern Light." At present, "Geo Search" can be used "to find real- world locations, services, businesses, and activities anywhere in the US or Canada." Researchers "can specify a place in the U.S. or Canada" . . . "and a radius from that place -- from 1 to 100 miles", at: http://northernlight.com/geosearch.html Key to finding information is the concept of: "LIMIT SUBJECTS", "LIMIT DOCUMENTS", "SELECT DATE RANGE" and "SORT RESULTS BY" "Relevance", or "Date & Time". Application of this kind of resource to a "Federated Independent Genealogical and Family History Web Societies" organization, would "offer automatic internal Search services and automatic online submissions of data to all major search engines, ASAP and worldwide." The role of online research now requires a "reduction in current bureaucracy [Internet disorganization to a centralized unit], which can be promoted, to keep online genealogy free and independent; a part of the socialization and learning process of society as a whole. This independence requires responsible cooperation. Local organization societies, libraries and researchers with web sites, can voluntarily submit to national and international standards: for credentials that can be applied at the local level, within the state civil licensing communities. Scholarly standards must also merit research acceptability, as currently promoted by the community of institutions of higher learning, within each designated region." The critical difference between this and current local society's or library's sites, (which have links to relevant genealogical content, including mailing lists, organizations, and databases), is: the potential ability to format genealogy and family history Internet searching by three KEY items: LOCATION, TIME, [and with proper adjustment], SURNAMES or [Pedigree] RELATIONSHIPS. Respectfully yours, Tom Tinney, Sr. http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~vctinney/ Who's Who in America, Millennium Edition [54th] Who's Who In The West, 1998/1999 Who's Who In Genealogy and Heraldry, [both editions]

A new issue of The Global Gazette, Canada's Family History Magazine is online and filled with new articles To check it out, click on: http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm . The Global Gazette is produced by volunteers, and provided to the heritage community without charge. The publication is sponsored in full by GlobalGenealogy.com . If you would like personal email notification of each issue as it is posted, there is "subscribe" information is at the end of this message. AOL Users hotlink: <a href="http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm"> http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm </a>. SUMMARY OF ARTICLES IN THE JULY 7, 2000 ISSUE: EDITOR'S CORNER In this week's Editor's Corner we discuss the 're-constructed' Global Gazette subscriber list. Also press coverage of 188 American Prisoners Of War Honored Almost Two Centuries After Making The Ultimate Sacrifice; a reader shares Two Valuable (Searchable) Canadian Web Sites. Also this week a teaser on new attractions being added to Global Family History Fair 2000 at no extra cost. http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm ENGLISH AND WELSH ROOTS This issue of English and Welsh Roots looks at yet another important resource for family historians - Wills. Specifically, this issue is designed to assist researchers in understanding and using probate records (WILLS) from 1858 to the present. In the standard now expected from this column, wills are discussed in terms of their creation, as a primary archival resource, along with published and online resources to assist with understanding and using wills. As usual, don't miss the Extra Bits. http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm LOYALISTS IN CANADA Brenda Dougall Merriman reports on the new block-buster movie THE PATRIOT, sharing with Global Gazette readers her opinion of how the movie rates as entertainment and as a historical account. We are interested in your opinion too. Email your impressions to rick@globalgenealogy.com and we will post them in the next issue. http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm ROUTES TO ROOTS Unexpected Family Traditions Sometimes family traditions spring up in an unexpected way. You might not even recognize them as traditional. Ryan Taylor shares with you some thoughts on some family traditions that many us omit from our recorded family histories. Also in this issue Ryan discusses two important government of Canada websites, that he has recently discovered. http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm POST 1901 CENSUS PROJECT (Canada) Irresponsible Reporting and/or Political Intrigue... Find out what main-stream media is saying about the potential release of early Census records and where they are getting thier information from. Also a thoughtful submission to the expert panel by the Alberta Family Histories Society and more.... http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm UPCOMING EVENTS (WORLDWIDE) Browse or submit announcements for upcoming family history events, genealogy conferences, workshops and family reunions from around the world. No event is too big or too small. http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz58.htm <> **************************************** <> MISSED THE LAST ISSUE?? If you missed the last issue you can find it at http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz57.htm . AOL Users hotlink:<a href="http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz57.htm"> http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz57.htm </a>. ***** ARCHIVE UPDATED July 7, 2000: Don't miss browsing the new Gazette archive of past articles, hints, lists, and sources. Now searchable by keyword or phrase too! http://GlobalGazette.net/backtop.htm ***** If you would like to be personally notified by email of each new posting of The Global Gazette (twice/month), send an email to request@globalgazette.net and type the following word in the SUBJECT line: SUBSCRIBE There is no charge for the magazine. Your address is never shared with anyone nor will you ever be solicited for donations to support the magazine. Unsubscribe instructions will be included in an email confirming your subsription. **** Rick Roberts, Publisher The Global Gazette, Canada's Family History Magazine http://globalgazette.net

Hello, I have started a top sites for Texas links. Anyone with a Texas genealogy site is invited to add your site. Texas Roots Top 100 Genealogy Sites: http://www.hostedscripts.com/topsites/top.cgi?user=tracers Thanks, Brenda