Hi list, I will be happy do so some DuPage Co. IL. lookups or general IL. for some info from Dakota's or Montana. I only have some pretty vegue information. Looking for marriage records that might have the names of 3 of these women, they immigrated from Norway abt. 1908 and in an obit. for their older sister, they are mentioned only as one "lives in Montana" and two "live in the Dakota's." This was 1916 and I am not sure which Dakota they ment. I have researched in Norway and found out some of the sisters names but I don't know which ones immigrated and I am not sure if any of them were married when they immigrated. JOHANNE REINERTSDATTER or RASMUSEN b. 1889 Midbrød, Egersund, Norway INGA DORTHEA REINERTSDATTER or RASMUSEN b. 1891 Midbrød, Egersund, Norway RAKEL SEVERINE REINERSTDATTER or RASMUSEN b. 1894 Midbrød, Egersund, Norway TERESE REINERTSDATTER or RASMUSEN b. 1896 Midbrød, Egersund, Norway KAREN GURINE REINERTSDATTER or RASMUSEN b. 1899 Midbrød, Egersund, Norway Can't seem to find any immigration info on them or their older sister. So if anyone has access to marriage records for Montana or Dakota's from about 1908 to maybe the 1920's, I sure would appreciate any help. Thank you, Cidney Engberg Wheaton, IL.

Hi All, I was wondering if anyone knew if school records are open for viewing, and how long these records are kept? I am referring to the years around 1918 to 1930. Where would one start, with the Board of Education in the area? Has anyone ever done this? Thank you, Betsy B1316@aol.com

Thanks Judy!! You're right about this list! I haven't encountered any rudeness yet. This genealogy thing just makes us all crazy when we search and search and come up empty. Every now and then we find something that MIGHT help, so we keep going. I think if I have any hair left when it's all over (will it ever be?), I will donate that as well :) At 01:54 PM 10/1/98 EDT, you wrote: >Belinda: >I'm new at this too, but so far the only rude people I've met were my next >door neighbors whom I now intensely ignore. Keep pegging away, I think this >is like a game of Battleships. You just keep trying to make informed guesses >on what to hit on next. If it's a blind hit, write it on your list of non- ... ... >Judy > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Belinda & Clint Forgy Midwest Online PeculiarWeb Internet Designs http://www.midwestonline.com http://www.peculiarweb.com

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To GenSwap Please take me off your mailing list. If I need to contact someone directly to be taken off the list please email me the information. Thank you. Sincerely, David Hopper dhopper@earthlink.net

Thank you!! I will indeed hang in there. As for the willing to help issue, I only meant that I don't own any books and can't get to any libraries or court houses to do look ups. If I have info relating to someone's genealogy, then I am willing to give them what I have!! In fact, if I could find someone researching the same lines I am, I would be so thrilled, I'd probably ... well, I don't know what I'd do :) Hopefully, I will soon be able to devote more time to going to the library to look up census info, and I am planning to move soon to central Missouri, where the state archives are, so I will be able to do some lookups there! But, for the time being, I am on my own :) Thanks for taking the time to respond. I needed to know that if a researcher/volunteer can't help they simply go on!! That makes me feel much better!! Belinda At 01:06 PM 10/1/98 EDT, FAKANT2@aol.com wrote: >I would think if you don't get a reply that means no one can help at this >time. This is my first time on a list and I've seen a lot of stuff that I >couldn't help with so I just delete that message and assume the person who can >help will. I've also seen some things that aren't worth spending all my time >responding to and I let those go also. I am on this list looking for "tips" as >a new geneologist and I want info on who is available for lookups. As a >"newbee" I'm still in the "I want, I need" mode but the other side of the coin >is "I'm willing to help". Hang in there! Sincerely!!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Belinda & Clint Forgy Midwest Online PeculiarWeb Internet Designs http://www.midwestonline.com http://www.peculiarweb.com

I apologize to all, first :) I think I've been replying personally to the people on the list, instead of sending a reply-all. Sorry. Now, I don't want to bring this up again, but I have a question that relates. Only mine has to do with RUDE REQUESTS. I have sent email to a couple of lists, and received no acknowledgement whatsoever that anyone out there sees them. I see other requests being responded to immediately, and wonder if I sound rude or unappreciative or if no one has any information to help me. (This has not occured on this list) This may sound silly, but like Cheryl's mom, I've come pretty close to crying over this. I've hit dead ends everywhere, and then I feel like I'm being ignored. Should I just assume no one can help there and go on to another resource? Is there some sort of netiquette I'm missing? I've thanked the lists in advance (maybe that's the wrong part), but seen responses to messages that are one liners with no thanks. I'd appreciate it if someone could clue me in on how to ask for information :) I know this is probably not the list to ask this sort of question, but it's been a topic so, I thought I'd try. Thanks Belinda ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Belinda & Clint Forgy Midwest Online PeculiarWeb Internet Designs http://www.midwestonline.com http://www.peculiarweb.com

In a message dated 98-10-01 16:31:22 EDT, EchosPast@aol.com writes: << In a message dated 10/1/98 12:33:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Delianmara@aol.com writes: << << Anybody know of a CD for genealogy to make an album look good? I have UFT but want another one to make a "tree", nice frames, etc. Something to make the pages look nice. Also, want CD which makes nice Xmas frames or pages for photo albums. Or, is there someone interested in making those things for me in exchange for handcrafted photo albums, made to their specifications? Also, are there any sites on the net that might have this? Haven't found them yet, if there are. Thanks. Rita Boyd NU1111@aol.com >> >> Hi, I have a friend that is a Creative Memories distributor. They have album pages that correspond with family tree themes and all sorts of other ones. If you want more info, write me with your email addresses and I will forward them on to her. Thanks, Cheryl >> Cheryl, Yes I definately want more info. My name is Tamara Altizer, my e-mail addresss is: Delianmara@aol.com Is there a catalog or something that I can look at? Tamara

In a message dated 10/1/98 12:33:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Delianmara@aol.com writes: << << Anybody know of a CD for genealogy to make an album look good? I have UFT but want another one to make a "tree", nice frames, etc. Something to make the pages look nice. Also, want CD which makes nice Xmas frames or pages for photo albums. Or, is there someone interested in making those things for me in exchange for handcrafted photo albums, made to their specifications? Also, are there any sites on the net that might have this? Haven't found them yet, if there are. Thanks. Rita Boyd NU1111@aol.com >> >> Hi, I have a friend that is a Creative Memories distributor. They have album pages that correspond with family tree themes and all sorts of other ones. If you want more info, write me with your email addresses and I will forward them on to her. Thanks, Cheryl

I found this today and thought it appropriate at this time: <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/201/lesson1/course1_06.html">Family Tree Maker's Newsgroup Netiquette.</A> Hope this is helpful ......

> > I am trying to find any information on my Grandmother, Lucy Trottier, born > 26 Oct. 1874 in Newport, VT. If anyone would be willing to do a lookup at > the town clerk's office of her birth certificate it would be greatly > appreciated. I need my great, great grandparents names to continue my You can write to the Newport Town Clerk, P.O Box 85, Newport Center, VT 05857 or Newport City Town Clerk, 74 Main Street, Newport, VT 05855 You may also find information at the Orleans County office (which maintains probate records since 1790's): Orleans Probate Office, Newport, VT 05855 There is also a Request for Vermont State Search at http://www.sover.net/~mbevins/birth.htm

In a message dated 98-10-01 06:53:39 EDT, NU1111@aol.com writes: << Anybody know of a CD for genealogy to make an album look good? I have UFT but want another one to make a "tree", nice frames, etc. Something to make the pages look nice. Also, want CD which makes nice Xmas frames or pages for photo albums. Or, is there someone interested in making those things for me in exchange for handcrafted photo albums, made to their specifications? Also, are there any sites on the net that might have this? Haven't found them yet, if there are. Thanks. Rita Boyd NU1111@aol.com >> This does sound nice. I would also like any info. that anyone may have for Rita on this subject. I have thought about doing some genealogy stuff for my family for Christmas, this might a nice way to do it. Tamara Altizer

In a message dated 10/1/98 10:58:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Gavials@aol.com writes: << I am at my wits end. I have no living relatives other than my two brothers. My father had done some research and it was all lost when his house burned. My father did not have a birth certificate. His military records do not mention his parents. I have posted to more lists than I can count, no luck. I have checked the SSDI and my grandparents aren't there either. I contacted the county where I think my grandparents are buried, and still no luck. All I have to go on is their names. What other information is available on my father that I haven't tried? Thanks for any direction! Vance >> Vance, When you run into brick walls like this it can be very frustrating. I think we have all been there! What has always worked for me in this situation is to start at the beginning and use the tried and true basic genealogy techniques. 1. Get your birth certificate. 2. Try to locate a copy of both your parents' birth, marriage and death certificates, if applicable. 3. Locate copies of all of your siblings birth, marriage and death certificates. 4. Get copies of all the military records for your father, uncles, grandfather, etc. 5. Write for copies of the Social Security SS5 applications for your parents, yourself and siblings and your uncles and grandparents. 6. Look for birth, marriage and obitiuary notices in newspapers. 7. Find any family friends, neighbors, employers or fellow employees that may have information. The trick to it is acknowledging that you may not be able to start at #1 and move down the above list in any given order. You might know where someone worked and you may need to get info from an employer before you can figure out whether or not someone applied for a SS#. You might not be able to find out your father's parents' info from your father's military records, but you might find it in an uncle's military records. Find all the backdoors and alleys that you can. If we find the info we are looking for through the front door, we got lucky!! That's half the fun, though! Figuring out the puzzles! Let me know if you need any specific help with your searching. Cheryl Hawley ============================================== http://www.webbergroup.com http://www.echoesarchive.com http://www.chrislist.com Senior GIS Technician Microsoft NT LAN Administrator Webmaster, Snohomish Pilchuck Cemetery Project Webmaster, Mantrackers & Search Dogs, Inc. St. Coordinator, CT/IN/NY/OH/VA Tombstone Projects St. Coordinator, Ohio & Virginia Biographies Projects Co. Coordinator, Champaign/Erie/Huron/Logan Co., Ohio Biog.Projects Co. Coordinator, Patrick County, Virginia Biographies Project Co. Coordinator, Kosciusko County, Indiana Biographies Project Co. Coordinator, Kitsap County, Washington GenWeb Page Contributing Writer/Webmaster, Country Gazette Newspaper, Orting, WA Newsletter Editor, Washington State Genealogical Society President, Echoes of the Past Archive Founder & Co-Owner, New Life Enterprises Chief Operational Officer (COO) The Webber Group "Glad to spend the rest of my life Climbing Trees!!!"

In a message dated 98-10-01 00:46:35 EDT, helen.c@clear.net.nz writes: << >Maybe next time someone sends you a rude response, instead of calling them >names, send them a note and say something like, "your response seemed a bit >rough. Are you okay? Do you need a net.hug? Want to share it with someone?" >have any of the numerous frustrations, large and small, that afflict all of >us. And sometimes they lose their temper or let the frustations get to them >atake it out on someone inappropriately. -----snip-----------snip------------snip----------- You have a point, up to a point, Lin. But, I have to add that no ammount of 'bad days' or 'human foibles' are good excuses for bad manners or rudeness. Not to mention hurting peoples feelings. :-) Helen Tangimoana >> I agree totally, especially when you probably don't even know the person. Why would you take out your frustrations on someone you don't even know and have never met before. Tamara Altizer

I am at my wits end. I have no living relatives other than my two brothers. My father had done some research and it was all lost when his house burned. My father did not have a birth certificate. His military records do not mention his parents. I have posted to more lists than I can count, no luck. I have checked the SSDI and my grandparents aren't there either. I contacted the county where I think my grandparents are buried, and still no luck. All I have to go on is their names. What other information is available on my father that I haven't tried? Thanks for any direction! Vance

I would think if you don't get a reply that means no one can help at this time. This is my first time on a list and I've seen a lot of stuff that I couldn't help with so I just delete that message and assume the person who can help will. I've also seen some things that aren't worth spending all my time responding to and I let those go also. I am on this list looking for "tips" as a new geneologist and I want info on who is available for lookups. As a "newbee" I'm still in the "I want, I need" mode but the other side of the coin is "I'm willing to help". Hang in there! Sincerely!!!!

In a message dated 98-09-30 23:40:56 EDT, you write: << instead of it escalating into a flame war, you might make a virtual.friend. >> AND now instead of this eating up all the good that this list does, it is time to get on with our requests and queries.

In a message dated 98-09-30 01:11:42 EDT, you write: << I'm sorry if anyone thinks this should have been a private correspondence, but I felt that it was lousy enough that the group might want to know that it happened. Thank you, everyone, for all your time and efforts! They are appreciated! Cheryl Hawley ========================== >> Since the key "Delete" is so simple to use, I would suggest that anyone not willing to help for "no compensation except a Thank You" , either use the delete key or they can always "unsubscribe". I know I have promised people I would do lookups but can't seem to find time to do even my own research. I will eventually answer, even if it takes a year. In some instances, I just copy the requested information without a response to the person requesting it. If I am able to get the information I send it, if I can't, they never knew I was working on it. No need for anyone to be rude, especially over an SASE. I got a letter once from a woman, who sent me information and informed me she was sending the information "even though I did not enclose a SASE". My opinion, if you are that petty and cheap, don't do it!! But remember, what goes around comes around. Likewise, for those of you who are kind and give freely and willingly, good things will happen for you too. Mary

Rick, looking for French/Canadian information - - one stop shopping at the following URL <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/2806/gene.html> I, too, have Trottier in my family line. Good Hunting and keep in touch. Mary Alice Bentley (mabulator@aol.com)

I purchased the ULTIMATE FAMILY TREE DELUXE (palladium), installed it, and no matter what I do I cannot get on line through the "on-line resources" . I have signed on to AOL, minimized it and then opened the UFT and tried it that way and still nothing, Palladium told me it was a problem with AOL. and AOL said it was a problem with Palladium, can antone out there help me?? everytime i try it, a pop up box says that "a connection with the server could not be established", I have AOL 3.0, and Internet Explorer. any help would be appreciated cheeta829@aol.com