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Hi - Is there someone out there who could look up an obit for a death which occurred in Terrebonne OR on Aug. 12,1992? Bill Scott.

I've been wondering the same thing? Where did they get them??? >______________________________X-Message: #5 >Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:14:38 -0500 >From: Andy & Pat <abcpec@erols.com> ..... > >I have occassionally seen old ledges of public records for sale, and I >believe that this is probably illegall. These should be legal documents >of the county, not someone's pesonal propety. I wonde how they came into >private possession? >Patricia C. Peg from MA DavePeg@ix.netcom.com .... http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/7401/

Barbara, You forgot to put your e-mail address on your inquire. I can help you in Bexar Co., Texas because I live in San Antonio and I am always at the library. e-mail me direct at a&mprice@helotes.net Marla -----Original Message----- From: GenSwap-D-request@rootsweb.com <GenSwap-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: GenSwap-D@rootsweb.com <GenSwap-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 12:24 AM Subject: GenSwap-D Digest V98 #236

What I have seen in the past is -- when the records have been entered into a computer - it is no longer "necessary" to keep the handwritten copies and these are discarded. Some secretary or some "other" person probably took the records from the trash. Alas, this is very sad, but it happens. Just recently in Rochester, MN my husband's grandfather sold his business which was a photography studio dating back to the turn of the century. He sold everything in one package when he retired. The person buying the business couldn't make a go of it. When everything was liquidated the thousands of photographs found there way to a garage. About one year ago someone cleaning the garage found these pictures and donated them to the Olmsted County Historical Society. Imagine our surprise this summer when we went back for a visit, and while doing my genealogy search we were informed of the donation. It was amazing to see my husband's baby pictures permanently placed in safekeeping with the society. The only way to prevent this from happening is to get involved with the local historical society and watch for business (cemeteries, etc.) that have computerized their records. I recently had this happen in Wyoming. They have distroyed all paper records to the cemetery in Casper because "everything" is on computer. Were they absolutely 100% positive the records were correct, were surveys done ....No.... Many unnamed graves are lost forever. It's sad, but unfortunately true, with our new computer age. Paper copies just aren't valuable anymore, except to a genealogist. -----Original Message----- From: Andy & Pat <abcpec@erols.com> To: GenSwap-L@rootsweb.com <GenSwap-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Help save MN ledgers I have occassionally seen old ledges of public records for sale, and I believe that this is probably illegall. These should be legal documents of the county, not someone's pesonal propety. I wonde how they came into private possession? Patricia C.

I have occassionally seen old ledges of public records for sale, and I believe that this is probably illegall. These should be legal documents of the county, not someone's pesonal propety. I wonde how they came into private possession? Patricia C.

In a message dated 12/17/98 8:11:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, abcpec@erols.com writes: << Subj: Re: Help save MN ledgers Date: 12/17/98 8:11:16 PM Pacific Standard Time From: abcpec@erols.com (Andy & Pat) To: GenSwap-L@rootsweb.com I have occassionally seen old ledges of public records for sale, and I believe that this is probably illegall. These should be legal documents of the county, not someone's pesonal propety. I wonde how they came into private possession? Patricia C. >> Patricia, This is not illegal. Many, many, many county, city and state governments microfilm their original documents and then discard the originals. It is a matter of their records storing procedures. Many do not have the space to house them or the staff to make the records available, so they dispose of them. Then antique dealers come across them and try to sell them. Many paper dealers tear the books apart and sell them page by page!! I am a book collector also. It breaks my heart to see individual pages of books dated from 1300-1800 being sold as such at auction. The same is happening with the original ledger books and other records in our local government archives. Echoes of the Past Archive views itself as a rescue facility. We try whatever we can to rescue these records and documents and make them available for research. Cheryl

Merry Christmas, Could someone make my Christmas merry by looking up a death in Bexar county Texas? It would be around 1954. If someone would be so kind email me privately. And THANKS ! If I can be of help in Shawano co. Wis. or surrounding area let me know. Barb

I wonder if all of you know about AGLL. AGLL is American Genealogy Lending Library. As it happens they have a lot of microfilms and microfiche for sale and for rent. You have to be a member to order but nearly all genealogy libraries are members. If you want to find out what they have, check the website at: <A HREF="http://www.heritagequest.com/genealogy/microfilm/">Genealogy: Microfilm Records for the United S...</A> It is just one more resource for all of us. Happy Hunting. Junebyr@aol.com

I need some marriages from Randolph Co, IN about 1905-1925. If anyone can help, I will try hard to find something to trade. Junebyr@aol.com

Hello all, Is there anyone on this list who can provide any information on Rockport Cemetery in the area of Malvern, AR? Anything at all will be appreciated. Doris

Thank you for your input. I was going to send the $5.00 to help out. Little did I realize. I am still new (only a year in serious searching) in GENEALOGY, and I want to help where ever I can. I will start using my head more often than my heart. Thank you again. Have a Blessed Christmas and New year Lureigne -----Original Message----- From: EchosPast@aol.com <EchosPast@aol.com> To: GenSwap-L@rootsweb.com <GenSwap-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 4:22 PM Subject: Re: Re: Help me save these!! >In a message dated 12/16/98, 9:27:27 AM, karren@sierratel.com writes: ><<What a way to make a buck!!!....If everyone listened to you, and sent 5 >dollars...what a pile of money...you'd come out way ahead plus have the >ledgers...If you are a dealer...why not buy them..and then sell the info >on the net?...>> > >I have several businesses that are "For Profit". Echoes of the Past Archive >is a "Non-profit" entity. They accept donations for their cause. Please do >not confuse the two. If I wanted to purchase the ledgers for myself as my >personal property, I would do so. These ledgers need to be a part of an >archive that will assure that they will survive in their current condition. >All materials in the Archive will be passed on to the NARA if the Archive >disolves for any reason. > >I was just notified by the dealer that all of the ledgers are from the same >town in Minneapolis Township, Hennepin Co., MN. They are not for the city of >Minneapolis, but for a small town in the same township. He just went through >another couple of boxes of materials from the same lot and has found several >other ledgers and materials for the same town. One of which is the records >for the pauper's cemetery listing all of the burials. The cemetery is no >longer in existence. > >I will post an updated list of materials that the Archive can acquire from >him. Here is my address for sending any donations: > >Echoes of the Past Archive >16617 - 119th Ave Ct E >Puyallup, WA 98374 > >______________________________ ___________________________________________ Simplify your holiday shopping... Visit our partners for great holiday gifts. http://www.netzero.net/etoys http://www.netzero.net/amazon

Hello, Cheryl: Please let me know how to send a contribution. The destruction of such records is a wound to all genealogists and must be stopped whenever possible. It's maddening that the records were ever sold in the first place; a little effort would have located an archive willing to take them and make them available. By the way, I live in Mount Vernon, Skagit County, WA so we're almost neighbors! Thanks... Dale EchosPast@aol.com wrote: > P.S. If there is a surplus of funds after the Archive purchases what the > dealer has for sale, I will return the remainder to the last people who > donated unless they want the Archive to keep the funds for more acquisitions. > I will leave that up to them. > > Thanks, > > Cheryl

P.S. If there is a surplus of funds after the Archive purchases what the dealer has for sale, I will return the remainder to the last people who donated unless they want the Archive to keep the funds for more acquisitions. I will leave that up to them. Thanks, Cheryl

In a message dated 12/16/98, 9:27:27 AM, karren@sierratel.com writes: <<What a way to make a buck!!!....If everyone listened to you, and sent 5 dollars...what a pile of money...you'd come out way ahead plus have the ledgers...If you are a dealer...why not buy them..and then sell the info on the net?...>> I have several businesses that are "For Profit". Echoes of the Past Archive is a "Non-profit" entity. They accept donations for their cause. Please do not confuse the two. If I wanted to purchase the ledgers for myself as my personal property, I would do so. These ledgers need to be a part of an archive that will assure that they will survive in their current condition. All materials in the Archive will be passed on to the NARA if the Archive disolves for any reason. I was just notified by the dealer that all of the ledgers are from the same town in Minneapolis Township, Hennepin Co., MN. They are not for the city of Minneapolis, but for a small town in the same township. He just went through another couple of boxes of materials from the same lot and has found several other ledgers and materials for the same town. One of which is the records for the pauper's cemetery listing all of the burials. The cemetery is no longer in existence. I will post an updated list of materials that the Archive can acquire from him. Here is my address for sending any donations: Echoes of the Past Archive 16617 - 119th Ave Ct E Puyallup, WA 98374

Hi All, I am wondering if there might be someone who could copy information from a will and related material at Harrisburg? I would be will to check records here in Salt Lake in exchange. Have a Merry Christmas Dortha Steele Dortha Myers Steele Dortha@deseretonline.com

Wishing to get in contact with people researching the Harrisons in the Liverpool, Manchester and Scarborough areas Bob Harrison Adelaide, Australia

Hi All, Looking for Joynes or Jaynes c1800-15 possibly Grove St in Pimlico or marelebone. Later in cosway or stafford street, poss piano maker or seller. May have moved away into home counties Any snippets? many thanks in advance cheers Phil Hudson, Settle N.Yorks at http://www.users.daelnet.co.uk/hudson-history/index.html

Hi everyone, This might be a little off the topic, but it still pertains to genealogy!! I have a private archive that rescues original genealogical and historical materials. At this time, until our nonprofit status is approved, I am personally funding all of the acquisitions and we have received a few donations. I also am an antique dealer and had a fellow dealer offer me 6 original, handwritten birth/marriage/death register ledger books!!! I purchased one from him a couple of months ago and it is exactly the type of ledger you find in the county courthouse or archive with all the original documents!!! If I don't purchase these from him he is going to take them apart and sell them sheet by sheet at auction!! If anyone would like to donate a few dollars to help rescue these ledgers I would really appreciate it! As we understand it, any donations before we receive our nonprofit status will be taxdeductible after our status is received and is retroactive for 15 months. Anyone who makes a donation will be listed on the Archive's website donation page with a special thank you! You can check out our page at http://www.echoesarchive.com. Thanks so much for all your time! Cheryl Hawley ============================================== http://www.webbergroup.com http://www.echoesarchive.com http://www.chrislist.com Senior GIS Technician Microsoft NT LAN Administrator Webmaster, Snohomish Pilchuck Cemetery Project Webmaster, Mantrackers & Search Dogs, Inc. St. Coordinator, CT/IN/NY/OH/VA Tombstone Projects St. Coordinator, Ohio & Virginia Biographies Projects Co. Coordinator, Champaign/Erie/Huron/Logan Co., Ohio Biog.Projects Co. Coordinator, Patrick County, Virginia Biographies Project Co. Coordinator, Kosciusko County, Indiana Biographies Project Co. Coordinator, Kitsap County, Washington GenWeb Page Contributing Writer/Webmaster, Country Gazette Newspaper, Orting, WA Newsletter Editor, Washington State Genealogical Society President, Echoes of the Past Archive Founder & Co-Owner, New Life Enterprises Chief Operational Officer (COO) The Webber Group "Glad to spend the rest of my life Climbing Trees!!!"