Richard Pence wrote: >I don't see anyone questioning this premise. But neither has anyone >actually shown where new generations have been confirmed as a direct >result of this improved focus. It almost seems as if you (and most >of the "testimonials") are defining "success" as a perceived saving >of time and money. What Ardis has sought is some evidence that this >has actually worked in identifying and confirming a new ancestor. What is coming across here at this end, recalling that we are around the other side of the planet, is a whole lot of petty, pedantic bickering over some minor issue apparently looming as of sufficient importance to a few of the American contingent as to cause them to argue over it for weeks on end, but to the rest of us here is a non-issue. Surely placing the whole thing into perspective is sufficient to leave any who choose to adopt the procedure to do so as they wish, and pay whatever money they wish, none of which altering their lack of standing is legitimate researchers one iota. Why would anybody bother arguing with them, for heavens sake? Gil Gil Hardwick <gruagach@highway1.com.au>