One thing I haven't seen mentioned and thought I would just put out for all to see is that when you order a pension file, you may NOT get all the documents in the file in the initial request. Large pensions files have a card in them that indicates what is sent in the initial response. The remaining material is usually obtained through a second request asking for the remainder of the file, or by having someone go to the archives and pull the file personally. Also do not assume that what is behind the stop card is not of genealogical value. I get the remainder of one of my ancestors files and behind the stop card was a handwritten letter detailing all the places he had lived since the war, his children's names and other very good genealogical info. The people who put the stop cards in the files normally only count a certain number of pages and insert the files. All they worry about being in front of the stop card are the Pension Application, payment records, and any records indicating the person has died and ceased to receive a pension payment. Sometimes even marriage info can be behind the stop card. "Kevin Wornell" <wornell1@attbi.com>