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    1. [GM] More civilwar stuff << Phil
    2. Phil Stevens
    3. > > And Phil replies, Yes, BUT, When I received My GG Grandfather's > > Pension file IT Listed ALL Eight of his Children, ALL Three of His > > wives, WITH Dates of Birth Death and Marriages, EVEN Where ....... > > SO You can not say That the Goverment will do one thing and Only one > > thing, YOU must Remember This!!, You are dealing with the US of A > > Goverment structure, Do Not assume ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Phil > > (who by the way has a total of 5 Pension files for his families!!!) > > > > "Phil Stevens" <joephil@nwlink.com> > > The fact that the pensions were paid for only those children under > a certain age doesn't equate to only children under a certain age > are listed in the pension files. > > "Richard A. Pence" <richardpence@pipeline.com> Hello Richard and list. You have made an assumption that is wrong. I never said that a pension was paid for the childern under any age. I said: the childern of my GGrandfather were listed BY birth date and place AND by the mothers >>>>>>>> ALL THREE of them, eight children in All. HE applied for a pension in 1898. The question asked was "How many children do you have", he then lists them ALL!!!!, Phil "Phil Stevens" <joephil@nwlink.com>

    05/21/2003 02:45:28
    1. [GM] Re: More civilwar stuff << Phil
    2. Sharon Simpson
    3. > > > And Phil replies, Yes, BUT, When I received My GG Grandfather's > > > Pension file IT Listed ALL Eight of his Children, ALL Three of His > > > wives, WITH Dates of Birth Death and Marriages, EVEN Where ....... > > > SO You can not say That the Goverment will do one thing and Only one > > > thing, YOU must Remember This!!, You are dealing with the US of A > > > Goverment structure, Do Not assume ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Phil > > > (who by the way has a total of 5 Pension files for his families!!!) > > > > > > "Phil Stevens" <joephil@nwlink.com> > > > > The fact that the pensions were paid for only those children under > > a certain age doesn't equate to only children under a certain age > > are listed in the pension files. > > > > "Richard A. Pence" <richardpence@pipeline.com> > > Hello Richard and list. You have made an assumption that is > wrong. I never said that a pension was paid for the childern under > any age. I said: the childern of my GGrandfather were listed BY > birth date and place AND by the mothers >>>>>>>> ALL THREE of them, > eight children in All. HE applied for a pension in 1898. The > question asked was "How many children do you have", he then lists > them ALL!!!!, Phil > > "Phil Stevens" <joephil@nwlink.com> I've been reviewing pension files for brothers of my various great grandparents and one great grandfather. As to wives and children listed: in 1898 the government sent out a form requesting information on any and all marriages and children, including where is there a record of the marriage. I believe the form was again issued in about 1914. One in dividual responded to the questions right on the form, my ggrandfather answered in a separate letter. Prior to that form there was no mention of his marriage or children. Neither was there a mention of marriage dates, etc for a gg uncle who died in 1888 or 89. In his case there was an inquest, instigated by a ex wife, as to whether his medical condition pre-existed his service. Even after his death during the inquest she was determined that his widow and children from the second marriage would get nothing. While there were references to both wives and all three children (adult daughter even testified) there were no marriage licenses or dates of marriage. His file had an autopsy report, but no death certificate. This file, though having a widow's application number did not have a division between invalid and widow in the folder and really no division between invalid and widow other than a mention of the applicant's death. BTW she got a pension even though as a blacksmith, I'd guess the condition probably pre-existed his service (his was a medical discharge). Sharon Sharon Simpson <sharonlsimpson@comcast.net>

    05/21/2003 06:58:38