Richard and Phil I think this is the case that you are both right. I have a pension file for one of my greats that does not list a single one of his 11 children, the youngest was in his twenties when the pension application was first filed. In fact 2 of his grandchildren send supporting statements but unless you knew who they were you would not know it from the file as they were both children of daughters. I also have a great file where the pension application of the soldier not only lists each of his children including those over 16 but also givens their husbands names, marriage dates and where they currently live. So the bottom line is that some files are great, some are so so but all are worth looking at. Julia Coldren-Walker FamRSearch@aol.com