Dena asked about > I have a ggm, Narcissa Avelvidere McWhorter b. July 8, 1861, and > according to the Jackson family bible records, she was born in > Madison co. TX. She married John D. Jackson, 1879. > > In 1870 she was living with G.W. Farris and wife Ann in Walker > county Tx. by 1880 she was already married to my ggf John D. > Jackson. > > She is not the child of Ann who married G.W. Farris, further > checking found genealogy records, marriage, etc for both sides so > that possibility has been ruled out as her being their child. JOAN REPLIES: Do you know Ann's maiden name? She might be a sister or cousin or the child of a sister of G.W. Farris. I would explore collateral relatives of the Farris couple first. I have found a number of people that way. > There are a bunch of McWhorters in Grimes, Madison counties [tx]. > But every one I have checked that could possibly be her parents, > family members say there is no way, either they did not have another > child, or didn't have any at all. I am assuming since she is living > with a different family in 1870 that her parents both died. > > I am positive this ggm has to be related to the family of > McWhorters in that area. I think most of them were descended from > Hugh McWhorter born ca. 1759 Ireland, some went to Arkansas, some > to Tnn but then most ended upin Grimes co. TX. JOAN REPLIES: I have found the family memory regarding ancestors who died or moved away when young is often lost. Don't take the the families' word as gospel. You are probably right in suggesting the parents died. They must have died between 1860 and 1870. I suggest that you check the probate records for that period for the relavent counties. First determine how Texas courts filed these records. In the east, when their was no will the major documents are found in Orphan's Court instead of Probate Court. Because she was a minor there is probably some disposition of her parents property and a designation of guardian. An early discussion on this list about indenture indicated that the mechinism for some orphans in the mid-1800s was an indenture contract. "Joan Best" <joanbest1@earthlink.net>

> JOAN REPLIES: Do you know Ann's maiden name? She might be a sister > or cousin or the child of a sister of G.W. Farris. I would explore > collateral relatives of the Farris couple first. I have found a > number of people that way. > > JOAN REPLIES: > I have found the family memory regarding ancestors who died or moved > away when young is often lost. Don't take the the families' word as > gospel. You are probably right in suggesting the parents died. > They must have died between 1860 and 1870. I suggest that you check > the probate records for that period for the relavent counties. > First determine how Texas courts filed these records. In the east, > when their was no will the major documents are found in Orphan's > Court instead of Probate Court. Because she was a minor there is > probably some disposition of her parents property and a designation > of guardian. An early discussion on this list about indenture > indicated that the mechinism for some orphans in the mid-1800s was > an indenture contract. > > "Joan Best" <joanbest1@earthlink.net> Thanks Joan, I will check that 'Farris' line out a little further. I did find that his wife Ann, was Ann Judson Upton, daughter of Thomas Upton and Annie Yearout who married in Tn. GW had a lot of sibs, but so far can't find any in 1880 census online, will have to dig a bit deeper on that one. G.W. Farris had several different people with different surnames living with them in 1870 and 1880 census. I am thinking maybe since they didn't (showing) have any children, they took them in as their own, or just to 'help' out maybe. He showed to be fairly well off. He also was in Walker Co. Tx which may be where narcissa was born instead of Madison Co. I'll have to check that out better too, with various spellings. thanks so much!! dena "Dena" <dena@dbnetmall.com>