Bob: Yes, there is more material in the LDS 1880 "census records" (the FHL's description) and even more than what I said was there. I discovered after sending my earlier message that occupation and "married" (apparently not divorced or widowed) for the HOH is also included. And, yes, the items included are "the important ones." But that are not "everything, as you originally claimed, and further they cannot always be relied on to be accurate. I never said the LDS didn't have important information, nor did I say that it was a great piece of work - which it is. What I did say, and I repeated this to Austin earlier, is that you should not rely on the "index," "transcription" or "abstract" as your source of information unless _absolutely necessary_. It has errors, just like any other similar work - fewer than most, thank goodness. Reliance on "derivative sources" rather than "original sources" can profoundly affect the quality of your research, including your research in the 1880 census. Regards, Richard who bought his set of the 56 1880 CDS the first day they were available and who has used them almost every day since then, often claiming that it is the best bargain ever when it comes to genealogy finding aids. "Richard A. Pence" <richardpence@pipeline.com>