Hi list, I have a question about a couple of word definitions. I downloaded a gedcom last night with a list of names from 1250 and earlier. At a certain point, the names changed to Old English and there is where my question lies. The men's names all have the word ap between the first and last names (although the last names in some cases look like first names), and all the women's names have the word verch between the first and last names- i.e.; IEUAN ap LLEWELYN and JONET verch CYNFYN. I am assuming that these words mean "son of" and "daughter of", but I would like a better informed opinion, if possible. Does anyone out there know what these two words mean? Thanks for any suggestions, Carrie in Colorado Carrie Marsh <carrie1@attglobal.net>