This has now been answered by 3 different people (2 did email directly to me). Thank you to ALL the folks for their consideration. My father's light bulb in his head finally came on after several folks mentioned number of generations before he ever saw the correct answer.. It was not the # of generation causing the problem, but he found by clicking on a member of the family where there was not a complete kinship -- then click on "more" - he then click on "lineage" -then check if that person is listed as a "natural" relative or just a family"member" (or something else). In his case the person was listed as a family member and not a ''''natural'''' like it should have. He is very happy )))))) now. I knew nothing about his program, but I suggested it most probably was some mistake in input of data; he insisted it was a bug. Now, he has learned more in computing. 99% of all computer problems are software related, and yes lots of software has bugs; his problem in FTM was not a consistent problem shared with other relatives (just a few). Anyway --- thank you ALL!!! Sincerely - Randy O. =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ NOTE: Remove removeremove and the _ and ( or ) marks in my email address to reply, if they show up in my address. I'm trying to stop Spam. "Randy O." <emguy@execpc.com>