> You mention that you've "thought about sending for marriage records > but those won't tell me anything more than I already know...." As > Dr. Phil now says on tv all the time, "How's that workin' for ya?" > Have you considered that, in light of the fact that you can't find > the documentation to prove what you think you "already know," maybe > what you "already know" is not entirely correct? Amen to Diane. This is so true. You have to question everything that you've been told. Don't believe a thing - even a document - until you've followed up on the information provided in the document. Just starting out in my research my father told me, "Ah, yes, the Gordon's were Scots." I checked the 1900 census. The parent's and 11 children were all born in Ireland. I called my father and told him. He said, "Oh! My father often told us we were Scots-Irish." Huge difference. Don't hesitate to secure every document that you can. Each one will give you another clue. I sat there with the information that my family was from Ireland. Not a big help. In Ireland you need a specific townland/parish. I ordered two of of my G-Uncles SSDI. Those documents showed that my G-Grands were born in Newtownards, Co. Down, N. Ireland. Bingo. Leave no stone unturned..... Sandra SGordon817@aol.com